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post #1 of 39 Old Jun 16th, 2007, 4:26 pm Thread Starter
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I work evenings and get stuck at an intersection almost every night. The light won't change when I pull up and sometimes there is no other traffic for a while. Short of running the light what options do I have? Only seem to have the problem at this one intersection.

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post #2 of 39 Old Jun 16th, 2007, 5:44 pm
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I wait one light cycle & if no traffic run it. Most cops are aware of the problem.

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I lived in ILL for ever till we moved to FL.
I thought I remember hearing that if the light will not change, you can go thru it if you treat it as a stop sign. That was a law change. But it has to be a reasonable stop not every stoplight. I have and most of us from every state have the same trouble. There are tricks like put your center stand down. You can push it down with your left foot, sometimes that will make it trigger. But I end up going thru them anyways.

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I work evenings and get stuck at an intersection almost every night. The light won't change when I pull up and sometimes there is no other traffic for a while. Short of running the light what options do I have? Only seem to have the problem at this one intersection.

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I work with the signal maintainer at the public works, I showed him these, he said well I suppose it could help, but ours are either on a timer or pressure switch under the diamond shaped cut out at the intersection, apparently a morotcycle is not heavy enough. so I did my own experiments, if your intersection that you stop at has these diamond shaped cut outs, there is a pressure switch under it, look ahead where it is and as you get ontop of it hit your brakes when you are on top of it, it works 90% of the time for me, other wise he did say some are magnetic, a wire in the cracks trip the signal, in which these devices could work also.

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...ours are either on a timer or pressure switch under the diamond shaped cut out at the intersection, apparently a morotcycle is not heavy enough.
Never, ever heard of pressure-sensitive sensors for traffic signals. Wouldn't make sense from a reliability perspective - anything mechanical's gonna break after a coupla seasons.

I'd wager that 100% of the lane sensors are of the inductive loop variety - the link to the Green Light magnet product you provide explains it pretty well.

Cars have lotsa steel and are thus easily detected; bikes have little and what they have is oriented vertically. A magnet does a good job of faking out the sensor - looks like a lot of metal.

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Never, ever heard of pressure-sensitive sensors for traffic signals. Wouldn't make sense from a reliability perspective - anything mechanical's gonna break after a coupla seasons.

I'd wager that 100% of the lane sensors are of the inductive loop variety - the link to the Green Light magnet product you provide explains it pretty well.

Cars have lotsa steel and are thus easily detected; bikes have little and what they have is oriented vertically. A magnet does a good job of faking out the sensor - looks like a lot of metal.
I agree, most of the shapes I see are in the middle of the lanes anway...so what pressure could a car put on them in the first place, the tires dont even come close to the cutouts??. I just ask him this question this last Wednesday, never really gave it much thought till just now, going to have to see what he pulls out of his hat this time!!
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As pointed out, they are induction loops, not pressure sensors. Diamonds in your area, square/rectangle around here, and I have seen some circular ones out west. The magnets like Green Light Trigger and Signal Sorcerer do work based on my experience. I like the Sorcerer better. A magnet out of an old hard drive also works well.

As for running the red light, it appears that several states have adopted laws that permit a motorcyclist to run the red light if it does not change, as long as certain conditions are met. Conditions that I have seen in the various laws I perused include the intersection signal being controlled by an inductive loop sensor and waiting a "reasonable" duration for the sensor to trigger the signal. A couple even went so far as to define "reasonable."

What I did notice was that some of these laws provided what we call in Texas a "defense to prosecution." This means that you can still be cited (or perhaps even instantered/arrested) for the violation, and if you can prove at trial that you met the conditions the charge would be dismissed.

Laws vary from state to state and jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so make sure you are familiar with the laws in your area and seek competent legal advice when appropriate.

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I don't know how most leos feel about it but, I come to a pause with my feet on the bike when at a stop sign and providing I'm clear to go, don't see any obvious leos and I'm not at a light or I'm turning right on a red, I go without putting my feet down. If I were on a smaller bike with a more durable clutch I'd go ahead and go all the way, but I take my chances.
On the subject of a light that won't change, I wait until my side turns yellow if I'm in the turning lane and go. If I come to a light that won't change in a few seconds and there is no other traffic, I go after a pause if I don't see the other way turn yellow.

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....Short of running the light what options do I have? Only seem to have the problem at this one intersection.
Greetings, Scott. No other options. I guess you could make a right turn at said I/S and go around the block.

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I'd try the magnet trick first.

In my line of work I sometimes come up with rare earth magnets from the permanent magnet exciter off of generators. These things are almost the size of a pack of cigarettes and will trigger the inductive loop for traffic lights. Just stick it in the front edge of the bash guard, no need for screws to hold it, takes a good effort to pull it off. As a side bonus it also grabs any ferrous objects the front tire flips up. Last I checked I got 2 nails, 3 self tapping screws, 2 washers and some other trash. If it saves me from a nail or screw induced flat, makes my day.

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When you see the cuts in the pavement ahead of time it works for me to stop on one of the cuts parallel to travel. Of course that is easiest to do on roads you are familiar with. I'm new to the site and don't have an LT yet but I am looking!

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The magnets like Green Light Trigger and Signal Sorcerer do work based on my experience. I like the Sorcerer better. A magnet out of an old hard drive also works well.
I have a ton of old hard drive magnets...you think just slapping them under the bike somewhere would do the trick? I am also in Illinois and get stuck at light after light. while in my neck of the woods here the lights are timers there are a few that are inconvenient for motorcycles.

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Hey Jerry, welcome to the site and thanks for your post. And good luck on your search for a bike!

This topic is raised about 2 - 3 times per year, and anyone can do a search (if desired) to read lots of opinions for and against magnets, for and against positioning the bike along the cuts, for and against dropping the center stand, for and against turning the bike off and on again, etc. However, it is also traditional now for someone to make a plea to let your town/city traffic department know that the light at a certain intersection is not being tripped by a motorcycle. The engineers can adjust the sensitivity of the induction loop, which will benefit you and other motorcyclists. The plea has dutifully been made.

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Laws vary from state to state and jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so make sure you are familiar with the laws in your area and seek competent legal advice when appropriate.
While some states have passed laws allowing a motorcyclist to run a red light when it will not register his presence, our wonderul bunch passed a law requiring the sensors detect motorcycles. There are two lights I go through every day on my way home that did not detect my bike until I emailed the city. The traffic engineer wrote me back that she had the detectors adjusted, and now they work fine for me. I think I'll add a HDD magnet anyway, just for fun.

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I don't know how most leos feel about it but, I come to a pause with my feet on the bike, when at a stop sign and providing I'm clear to go, don't see any obvious leos and I'm not at a light or I'm turning right on a red, I go without putting my feet down. If I were on a smaller bike with a more durable clutch I'd go ahead and go all the way, but I take my chances.
On the subject of a light that won't change, I wait until my side turns yellow if I'm in the turning lane and go. If I come to a light that won't change in a few seconds and there is no other traffic, I go after a pause if I don't see the other way turn yellow.

'Kaliphornia' stops will almost universally get you 'noticed' by that LEO you didn't see. But, I do it too. To a one, every LEO I've ever asked as agreed - if they see such things, they'll stop you for 'failure to obey signal or control'. The law here says you have to come to a 'complete' stop. They determine complete stop by seeing at least one foot flat on the ground. But, I do like you do a lot as well. Sooner or later it'll catch up.

HDD magnets can help - the more the better. I'd love to get a hold of one of gunny's lucky strike packed sized nail grabbers. Until then, I do the same thing with about a half dozen HDD magnets. It helps - but isn't 'proof' for all.

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'Kaliphornia' stops will almost universally get you 'noticed' by that LEO you didn't see. But, I do it too. To a one, every LEO I've ever asked as agreed - if they see such things, they'll stop you for 'failure to obey signal or control'. The law here says you have to come to a 'complete' stop. They determine complete stop by seeing at least one foot flat on the ground. But, I do like you do a lot as well. Sooner or later it'll catch up.
About 8 years ago, I decided to buy a bike. Hadn't had a bike since I was a kid. When they started adding motorcycle endorsements to the licenses, I didn't get my endorsement grandfathered, so I had to take the test again.

Anyway, the examiner failed me for only putting one foot on the ground at a stop sign (she was following me in a car). I did some checking, and made some phone calls, and could find nothing in the laws except that the bike had to come to a complete stop. I called the driving license examiner's supervisor, and explained the situation. He called me back the next day and told me that as long as the bike came to a stop, you didn't have to put either foot on the ground. He also told me to come in and get my license endorsement, that the examiner should not have failed me for only putting one foot on the ground. I never took the test over. They may have changed the law since then, but that happened to me, and I know it is true.
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It's always seemed to me that a vehicular traffic light that doesn't operate properly when my particular vehicle gets to it is partially inoperable, similarly to when there is a power outage. After a reasonable time waiting, I check very carefully for traffic (never mind leos) and then go. If I'm ever ticketed, I'm willing to trust the judge to agree with my action. (I've been rear-ended at a traffic light by someone who not only didn't see the light, he didn't see me.)

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Many new installations are going to the overhead cameras, works much better. Many times the loops are covered with additional asphalt when the roads are resurfaced, making them even more insensitive to motorcycles.
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Any one that has rode much has had to choose when to run a red light.
I try to be as careful as I can when I ride thru a red light. When it comes to the leo Did you run a red light? yes. Do you have a reason? Yes. Almost always you can explain your reason at the road side. One habit that I have picked up from the local leo's is to stop and place my left foot on the ground and leave my right foot on the brake. This helps the person behind me realize I am stopped. Most of the time the bike is in 1st gear. Sometimes the road is a mess and both feet are needed on the ground. As for the rolling stop it will get you into trouble sooner or later. I understand that cars are out to get us and sometimes we have to do what ever it takes to stay alive. Just try to be careful and always protect yourself. Kola1
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It's because you are riding an LTC....all that chrome is reflecting the signal back to the trip unit, making it think yer not there....trade that sucker in for a regular LT, and problem is solved !


I hate running a red light, even if nobody is around. It happens to me rarely, and when it does, I usually turn right, and make a U-turn at the next intersection. I know it sounds cheezy, but to be on the safe side I just do it and carry on. LEO's really dont care what your excuse is, especially when it's nearing the end of the month and quota's have to be met....


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Quotas? We donneed no steenkin' quotas!

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It's because you are riding an LTC....all that chrome is reflecting the signal back to the trip unit, making it think yer not there....trade that sucker in for a regular LT, and problem is solved !


I hate running a red light, even if nobody is around. It happens to me rarely, and when it does, I usually turn right, and make a U-turn at the next intersection. I know it sounds cheezy, but to be on the safe side I just do it and carry on. LEO's really dont care what your excuse is, especially when it's nearing the end of the month and quota's have to be met....


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The law here says you have to come to a complete stop. They determine complete stop by seeing at least one foot flat on the ground....
Your assertion on the law is correct, sir. At least in Kalifornia.

In 17 years, I have yet to determine that a complete stop was made because a rider put a foot down flat.

My definition of a Kalifornia "complete stop" is: did you slow to 10 MPH?

If you have good balance, you may not need to put a foot down, even while making a complete stop!
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LEO's really dont care what your excuse is, especially when it's nearing the end of the month and quota's have to be met.
In 17 years I have never been given "the quota" or the time period that "the quota" is based on. How do we know that "the quota" runs from the beginning to the end of each month?

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There is that infamous intersection in Glendale where my bike NEVER gets detected. To make matters worse there is that sign that says "No Turn on Red". So every time if my bike is the only vehicle I usually 2 turns before "running" that red light! On my ole 99 LT I had the Green Light thingie zipped tied to my center stand. I would lower the stand with my left foot and voila...
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In 17 years I have never been given "the quota" or the time period that "the quota" is based on. How do we know that "the quota" runs from the beginning to the end of each month?
My sergeant never gave me a quota. He always said I could write all the tickets I wanted. It was always my observation that for every ticket I wrote there were at least 5 to 10 good tickets speeding by. You dont need a quota in California. There are so many violators it's just a matter of picking out the most flagrant.

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In California, let's see what the Legislature has to say about quotas:

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41602. No state or local agency employing peace officers or parking enforcement employees engaged in the enforcement of this code (Calif. Vehicle Code) or any local ordinance adopted pursuant to this code, may establish any policy requiring any peace officer or parking enforcement employees to meet an arrest quota.
Like revenue generation, quotas may be an issue in some small, obscure, podunk places. But mostly they are myths.

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My sergeant never gave me a quota. He always said I could write all the tickets I wanted. It was always my observation that for every ticket I wrote there were at least 5 to 10 good tickets speeding by. You dont need a quota in California. There are so many violators it's just a matter of picking out the most flagrant.

PS - I sincerely doubt that California is the exception.
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Besides, it was in the middle of the Arab Oil Embargo and my company paid for gas but we could only buy limited fuel on alternate days.

Long story short, I wanted to see what the 455 (if I recall) V8 would do. I was traveling from Hollister to Los Banos on Hwy 152 and on a straight stretch got up to 125 mph.

I slowed down when the front end started a bit of a shimmy and also noticed the flashing lights in my mirror.

The CHP officer asked me how fast I was going. I answered with a straight face, I didn't know. Believe this was in the days before for radar and he was try to pace me. As I recall, he said that he would have to arrest me and impound the vehicle if it was over 85 (or some other limit) .
He wrote the citation for 1 mph under that limit and told me to drive carefully.

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I think what most people don't understand is that contrary to popular belief most police officers aren't out to see how many tickets they can write. The more you write the more you have to go to court when the violator contests the citation. Thats cuts into his family and personnel time. Also, don't think that officer didn't have a pretty good idea how fast you were going when he stopped you on Hwy 152. If he had any experience on the road, which he would have had to have to be assigned to that area, he was only letting you decide how fast he was going to write you for. If you would have said that you were going the speed limit you would have probable gotten it full bore. The officer doesn't care, he doesn't win a blender or toaster if he writes alot of tickets.

I'm glad to hear you had a positive experience with one of the brothers. I'm sorry to say it isn't always that way. Within our midst we have exceptions to that rule (officers that is).

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I'd try the magnet trick first.

In my line of work I sometimes come up with rare earth magnets from the permanent magnet exciter off of generators. These things are almost the size of a pack of cigarettes and will trigger the inductive loop for traffic lights. Just stick it in the front edge of the bash guard, no need for screws to hold it, takes a good effort to pull it off. As a side bonus it also grabs any ferrous objects the front tire flips up. Last I checked I got 2 nails, 3 self tapping screws, 2 washers and some other trash. If it saves me from a nail or screw induced flat, makes my day.
Rare earth magnets the size of a pack of cigarettes? Holy cow, you sure you're not *drawing* that scrap metal from adjacent lanes? Make sure you don't get too close to a kid on a bicycle...

I have a few of these at my desk - I'm gonna slap some on my ride & see if it does the trick. Note in the photo that they're strong enough to hold on either side of my hand. When these things get within 3/4" of each other, you better make sure your flesh is outta the way...



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Never, ever heard of pressure-sensitive sensors for traffic signals. Wouldn't make sense from a reliability perspective - anything mechanical's gonna break after a coupla seasons.

I'd wager that 100% of the lane sensors are of the inductive loop variety - the link to the Green Light magnet product you provide explains it pretty well.

Cars have lotsa steel and are thus easily detected; bikes have little and what they have is oriented vertically. A magnet does a good job of faking out the sensor - looks like a lot of metal.
I would agree, never heard of a pressure switch version though I suppose there might be one out there. The difference between the diamond and circle is tooling. Not every contractor has the big hole saw unit, most use a standard concrete saw which only cuts a straight line thus requiring a diamond shape to make a loop.
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There are so many violators it's just a matter of picking out the most flagrant.
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I think what most people don't understand is that contrary to popular belief most police officers aren't out to see how many tickets they can write. The more you write the more you have to go to court when the violator contests the citation. Thats cuts into his family and personnel time. Also, don't think that officer didn't have a pretty good idea how fast you were going when he stopped you on Hwy 152. If he had any experience on the road, which he would have had to have to be assigned to that area, he was only letting you decide how fast he was going to write you for. If you would have said that you were going the speed limit you would have probable gotten it full bore. The officer doesn't care, he doesn't win a blender or toaster if he writes alot of tickets.
Thank you, Gerry. Excellent analysis! A little truth in all the "quota" myths sure should confuse a few people.

Even the officers that write everybody are not meeting the "quota." Just chicken shit with no discretion!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Even the officers that write everybody are not meeting the "quota." Just chicken shit with no discretion!
As I was getting closer to retirement I started to see more and more of those type of officers. The academy training and field training used to be able to weed most of those officers out but it doesn't seem to be happening as much now. Those officers just don't seem to get the concept that the whole idea is to get public compliance with the law not harpoon every thing that moves. I found a short discussion as to the high costs of their driving behavior along with a verbal warning usually worked pretty well. There were still of plenty of good violations to keep the sergeant happy.

There are exceptions of course. Someone doing high speed, blatantly running a red light or weaving in and out of traffic at high speed should and did get the big one.

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As I was getting closer to retirement I started to see more and more of those type of officers. The academy training and field training used to be able to weed most of those officers out but it doesn't seem to be happening as much now. Those officers just don't seem to get the concept that the whole idea is to get public compliance with the law not harpoon every thing that moves....There are exceptions of course. Someone doing high speed, blatantly running a red light or weaving in and out of traffic at high speed should and did get the big one.

PS - People in the public eye (like police officers , CEO's) are reflections of our society today and values both good and bad.
Yes, I don't know about these kids today......

Those "blatant," "flagrant" safety violations are exactly what I don't even have to look for (cause they nearly kill you)!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Several years ago I took a concealed handgun renewal class from a retired LEO. We finished the class early but had to stay for about 2 hours to meet the minimum requirements so we had a good BS session. The topic of speeding and quotas came up and I was surprised by his statement that most LEO's didn't feel that writing tickets for a few miles over the speed limit did anything to improve safety-essentially they generated easy revenue for the city. He also stated that while there were no quotas, motorcycle officers would be reassigned if they did not write an average of 30 tickets/day. I don't know about other areas but Austin publishes the locations of all speed enforcement zones. I guess that way they only catch the speeders that don't read.

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Who said any thing about kids....

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Who said any thing about kids....
Nobody!....

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....He also stated that while there were no quotas, motorcycle officers would be reassigned if they did not write an average of 30 tickets/day. I don't know about other areas but Austin publishes the locations of all speed enforcement zones. I guess that way they only catch the speeders that don't read.
Yup. Same with the DUI checkpoints! Duh!

When I was a young lad, a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I will never forget my first ever encounter with a LAPD motor officer. I was driving my mom's 73 type III square back.....Were talking the car's own shadow would sneak up on it! He cited me for 43/35! Yes, you read right--43/35! CHICKEN SHIT MF! Keep in mind that this was the early-mid eighties in Van Nuys. Gangs were running amuck; graffiti was out of control, and crack was used as a topping on your breakfast cereal! I was incredulous at this lazy fuck!

But, I was so thankful, 10 years later, when I was an officer, that I came across officer lazy fuck. Whenever I was tempted to get lazy and write an easy, chicken shit ticket, I always stopped and remembered--do some real police work!

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While some states have passed laws allowing a motorcyclist to run a red light when it will not register his presence, our wonderul bunch passed a law requiring the sensors detect motorcycles. There are two lights I go through every day on my way home that did not detect my bike until I emailed the city. The traffic engineer wrote me back that she had the detectors adjusted, and now they work fine for me. I think I'll add a HDD magnet anyway, just for fun.

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Hey, Rev - if you change your route going home and run across another intersection's stoplight that won't play nice, check this out!! I didn't Snopes it, butt somebody prolly will!!!
Man, I thought I was the only one who knew that trick!

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When I find one that doesn't "activate" when I'm on it, I call the traffic section and they adjust to sense.

The first time they really were not interested.. I then mentioned it was a licensed vehicle and their traffic signals were malfunctioning. I also offered to contact the State Hwy Dept to assist.. they were not interested in help from the State.. hehehe..

Now, every time I call they take care of it "chop-chop"...

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