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post #1 of 49 Old Jun 10th, 2007, 12:27 pm Thread Starter
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"Wife Beater" motorcycle safety gear

Just left the house to go out for lunch and drove up on a motorcycle accident. Seems like I have happened onto a lot of motorcycle wrecks in the last year.

Anyway, it was a couple on a Harley. Both laying lifeless in the middle of the street. Looks like a 1/2 ton PU turned left in front of them. The front front fairing was caved in, but the forks and wheel were not broke... so I would assume a relatively low speed impact... where safety gear would have made a lot of difference.

His safety gear:
White wife beater t-shirt, denim jeans and boots.


Her safety gear:
Tank top, denims and sandals.

Seeing these wrecks is what keeps me motivated to wear my gear. I had quit wearing my protective pants because I had gained weight and mine were too tight... I will order a larger size before the day is over!
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Yes Dean a good reminder. I was asked in another thread the other day how I could ride in all my gear? my responce was "You get use to it and I wear a 2 Lt. Camelback". This wreak is why I wear gear.

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helmets?? in any event, it's ironic how image and "lifestle" causes death.

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HELMET makes all the difference (besides road rash, which is why I never ride without proper gear from head to toe).

My best friend died (No helmet) from crashing at just 10 mph.

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It's a choice to wear or not to wear safety gear.

I will say that riding (and hanging out) with some of you bmwlt folks has me wearing the gear most of the time. My local friends don't see how I do it in the summer time.

Anyway, it's your choice to "wear" or "not to wear"!

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It's a choice to wear or not to wear safety gear.

I will say that riding (and hanging out) with some of you bmwlt folks has me wearing the gear most of the time. My local friends don't see how I do it in the summer time.
I ride with people sometime that do not even wear a helmet. When I get on the bike at 97 degrees with helmet, gloves, jacket and pants, I have to say it takes a deep down dedication. I have been able to hold on to my determination partly because of the accidents I have happened upon, or in one case, by actually witnessing a low speed accident where the poor guy was scratched from head to toe.

One thing I hear a lot of riders around here say is "helmets won't help most of the time anyway". Reminds me of the same crap I remember hearing when they first started enforcing seat belt use. It really p#@@%@ me off to hear someone say that... because a lot of people are easy to convince with less than credible information that they do not need to wear a helmet.

Anyway, kudos to all of you guys that endure the heat and sweat. I don't think I have ever heard of a single rider that went down that said "I sure wish I hadn't been wearing all that safety gear".... but we have all heard the opposite story.
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Oh yeah, you ought to see what they wear down here,

Because of my "job" I'm on the beach blvds every day
which is where the Harley's like to cruise.
The "norm" is flip/flops shorts and tank tops,
that's scary considering the pavement (besides being hard)
will burn you if you just walk on it with bare feet.


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I work in a military operations center where I review all sorts of reports and information for briefing to higher ups. Now that summer's here, it's amazing the number of motorcycle accident reports which are coming in daily.

Of all the reports, it appears only ten percent are doing things right, i.e. ATGATT, not speeding, not drinking, completed safety course, properly licensed, so-on-and-so-forth.

The other 90 percent, in simple terms, appear to be from "young and stupid" in one form or another.
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It's a choice to wear or not to wear safety gear.
Yep and "He chose poorly" should be engraved on his headstone.
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His safety gear:
White wife beater t-shirt, denim jeans and boots.


Her safety gear:
Tank top, denims and sandals.
I was out riding this weekend. It was HOT. I saw several couples riding. Their "safety gear" included skull caps, shorts, and flip flops. The males were shirtless and the females wore tank tops.
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The males were shirtless and the females wore tank tops.
It should have been the other way 'round. Or should it?
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People never believe me that I am just as cool (if not COOLER) with my gear on than those fools in shorts sleaves. My Olympia gear breathes very well, and allows for controlling (slowing) evaporation of sweat; thereby maximizing the cooling effect. People with short/short sleaves get NO cooling effect from their perspiration - it just blows off of them.

If it's real hot, say 90 or above, my cooling vest under the jacket kicks *ss.

Proper gear on a bike works just like robes in the desert...

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I live and ride in Fl. In this state safe gear is up to the rider not the law. Good or bad that is the way it is. I ride as often as I can. I ride to work and I ride for fun. On weekends is when I see the least safe gear being used. On weekdays most people use their safe gear. When I meet people and when they learn how much I ride some of them will tell me how unsafe it is to ride. I guess it is because they care about me and are only tring to help. I try to tell them as nice as I can that riding a motorcycle is only as unsafe as you let it be. A well made pair of boots that fit and you enjoy, a jacket that is made for motorcycle riding, a helmet that fits well so you will wear it, gloves that will help if needed ( when I see the fingerless gloves I just can't understand ) I also wear glasses in side the helmet. I am almost to the point of getting a pair of pants for the motorcycle soon.
Is the gear hot, sometimes yes. Does it take more time to put on, yes. While I put the gear on I think about the ride and can put my head in the right spot.One thing I have never said is I wish that I didn't have on my gear. I have heard people say that they wish that they had wore the gear.
Anyway I am getting older and as the wife says the more I cover up the better I look. and the best safe gear is between your ears.
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How's this for safety gear?

Just back from Americade and after reading this thread, I thought I'd share this picture I snapped on Canada Street Friday night. They weren't the only ones, but they were the only ones that I actually got a picture of.
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Just back from Americade and after reading this thread, I thought I'd share this picture I snapped on Canada Street Friday night. They weren't the only ones, but they were the only ones that I actually got a picture of.
At least they are wearing full face helmets!

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No More "Wife Beaters"

Y'all have covered the ATGATT aspects, and the poor choices made by some folks whether due to lack of info, trying to be "cool", or just plain denial.

But I did want to ask if we can all please stop using the term "Wife Beater" to describe a male wearing a tank top. The term is derogatory, extremely offensive, and should be stopped, much the same as those who actually fit that particular description should be stopped.

It's basically like calling a stiff white collar a "child molester", and assuming that anyone who wears one is one.

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just for the record, the term doesn't offend me, but then again, I don't wear them.

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Y'all have covered the ATGATT aspects, and the poor choices made by some folks whether due to lack of info, trying to be "cool", or just plain denial.

But I did want to ask if we can all please stop using the term "Wife Beater" to describe a male wearing a tank top. The term is derogatory, extremely offensive, and should be stopped, much the same as those who actually fit that particular description should be stopped.

It's basically like calling a stiff white collar a "child molester", and assuming that anyone who wears one is one.
A wife beater actually now refers to the tank top and no longer to the actual dude wearing it. I had a girlfriend who looked real hot in her "wife beaters".
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But I did want to ask if we can all please stop using the term "Wife Beater" to describe a male wearing a tank top. The term is derogatory, extremely offensive, and should be stopped, much the same as those who actually fit that particular description should be stopped.
I wear sleeveless T-shirts in the summer. Is it okay to call them "Wife Harassers?"

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[QUOTE=zippy_ggI doubt anyone on this forum would condone wife beating.[/QUOTE]Agreed. But words can be powerful weapons, and used carelessly they can do a lot of damage. Maybe this will simply go the way of "nigger." That used to be the most offensive thing you could say to a black person, until they took the word in, used it amongst themselves, and thus made it almost a term of pride. That effectively deflated the original meaning and now they pretty much own the word.

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just for the record, the term doesn't offend me, but then again, I don't wear them.
I don't wear them either, but would my white collar analogy above offend you? After all, you have a wife and kids to care for.

I fear we're just seeing the effects of the Jerry Springer generation at work. Two steps forward, one step back. Sigh.

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Ken, you bring up a good point, yet I fear that you are definitely swimming up stream on this effort. It's a valiant effort, but I think it will be tough to change this.

I think the usage comes from the stereotype itself: It seems that every guy who appears on TV or in the newspaper for a domestic violence arrest is dressed that way. I live in a rural part of Ohio; other similar/related stereotypes are "white trash" and "trailer trash". I think Jeff Foxworthy has covered these pretty well in his "You might be a Redneck if..." routines. The reality is, I can drive a few minutes down the road and find beat-up mobile homes with a car (or two) on blocks in the front yard, a fridge and couch on the porch, broken windows, and 7 "yard apes" (another stereotype) playing with matches outside.

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I don't condone wife beating (with the obvious exceptions ) any more than I condone wearing wife beaters .
I think we've just found ourselves a white Al Sharpton
Quit being so dam sensitive.

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would my white collar analogy above offend you? After all, you have a wife and kids to care for.
Since you asked, no, it did not offend me, either. First, let me say I was born Catholic, but I am not a practicing Catholic, mainly because I feel the Catholic Church is way behind the times on many issues. And, speaking of Catholic white collars, only, (since they can not marry) I believe this has a way of attracting a certain kind of individual who is more prone to non-traditional forms of sexual behavior. Quite frankly, as long as this does not involve minors I really could care less, but what I have a problem with is the Catholic Church's double-standard regarding homosexuality, and it's historical cover-up of child molestations. This is another other reason why I am not a practicing Catholic. And, I have even more reasons, but I'm trying to keep this brief!

This is not to say I do not believe in God, which I do, and which I know you do not. That does not offend me, either.

So there we are.

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Fair enough, Ted. I appreciate the honest response.

And I enjoyed having lunch with you and Fawn in Cambria. Wish we'd had more time to chat, or maybe even go for a ride. Another time, perhaps.

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Quit being so damn sensitive.
You know, somehow I don't think that'll happen.

It may well be an upstream effort at times, but it's just who I am.

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Yes - we enjoyed lunch w/ you and Dale, too. Two of our three are leaving this Saturday for 5-weeks (oldest begins HS freshman football practice this Monday), so if you are around the next 5-weeks will be the best time for us to go for a ride. Work has been a bit slow lately, too, so I could break away M-F for a few hours, also.

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What's the first thing the little woman does when she get's home from the battered women's shelter ?






The F$#@&ing dishes if she knows what's good for her.




Now that there is a wife beater.






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A wife beater actually now refers to the tank top and no longer to the actual dude wearing it. I had a girlfriend who looked real hot in her "wife beaters".
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But I did want to ask if we can all please stop using the term "Wife Beater" to describe a male wearing a tank top. The term is derogatory, extremely offensive, and should be stopped, much the same as those who actually fit that particular description should be stopped.

It's basically like calling a stiff white collar a "child molester", and assuming that anyone who wears one is one.
And while were stopping: how about stop referring to these type of events as "accidents!" The driver of the pickup didn't "accidently" turn in front of the M/C. He was no illegal turn virgin! He's been driving with his head up his ass for years. Just so happens that this time the other party couldn't stop in time. The M/C riders knew damn well that "head up ass" was out there--trying to take them out. They choose not to dress defensively. Accident--hardly! This was a collision. Death was a certainty!

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What's the first thing the little woman does when she get's home from the battered women's shelter? The F$#@&ing dishes if she knows what's good for her. Now that there is a wife beater. And NO, I am not politically correct.
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And while were stopping: how about stop referring to these type of events as "accidents!" . . . Accident--hardly! This was a collision.
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Just a pee-on, like me......BUT, a very funny one!

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Why, no. Akshooly, I do what I'm told. Wife beater can mean the woman taking the action, too. Now, if the gal's that populate CCR want a wife beater night, I would be the first to step up with a hearty, "yes, ma'am"! Where's Gilda when I need her?

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Y'all have covered the ATGATT aspects, and the poor choices made by some folks whether due to lack of info, trying to be "cool", or just plain denial.

But I did want to ask if we can all please stop using the term "Wife Beater" to describe a male wearing a tank top. The term is derogatory, extremely offensive, and should be stopped, much the same as those who actually fit that particular description should be stopped.

It's basically like calling a stiff white collar a "child molester", and assuming that anyone who wears one is one.
Thank GOD we have someone like our feminist friend Nanny Ken to keep us all politically correct and on the path toward an enlightened world.

I've never heard that term before - and I guess it is somewhat funny. Certainly redneck crude, but "extremely offensive"? Give me a break....


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I've never heard that term before - and I guess it is somewhat funny. Certainly redneck crude, but "extremely offensive"? Give me a break....
Come to South Tejas. The term is ancient, the apparel prevalent, and the shirt an accepted form of daily wear. My ex son in law wears them daily in his mobile car cleaning and detailing bidness. Nobody even looks twice here, nor thinks anything is weird about the term. It's a cultural thang. You can walk into any Walmart and ask where the wife beater's are and an eyebrow won't be raised.

What's next? The term, "pachuco", not being pc?

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I'll drink to that!
If it's an ICE COLD Guinness, I'm down!

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I love the Mexican culture. Well, I guess I should, I've been brought up in it where the whites are a minority. The Mexican's are a more accepting, loving and life living bunch. La familia comes first and if you're friendly to them, it will be reciprocated with open arms.
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