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post #1 of 12 Old Jun 6th, 2007, 7:29 pm Thread Starter
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No brakes shown many times when I slow down

I posted this previously in a hijacked thread and would like to hear how others feel about slowing down without the break light coming on.

I was just thinking the other day as I slowed down without really breaking, just letting off on the gas, and wondered how the driver behind me would know that was what I was doing. I touched my brakes to let them know, but wonder if this is a problem. Never gave it much thought. MAYBE we are part of the problem too. I tend to slow down with the engine as opposed to the actual break many times. Could I be a part of the problem?
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post #2 of 12 Old Jun 6th, 2007, 7:37 pm
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I also became aware of this some time ago and started using a light drag of the rear brake to light up the brake lights. I don't wish to challenge the driving skills of those behind me . I even use that technique for slow downs on the highway, always drag a little brake even if the engine braking is doing the job. And some times just for the heck of it if some one is too close.

But I usually monitor traffic behind me and don't do it if no one is there or really far back. Typically I don't actually USE the brakes except to do the final stop and that is what got me thinking about lighting the brake lights for safety.

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It's not just a motorcycle thing. Manual transmission vehicles of all kinds engine brake. I've been behind one or two pick 'em up trucks that've done that to me. Was embarrassed to realize I'd become dependant on the automatic tranny's need for a brake light and worse, was driving with that assumption. Was an 'eye opener' for me. Glad I didn't hit any of 'em.

So, yes. If there's any chance the guy behind you is oblivious, can't see you, doesn't recognize a bike or doesn't have their brain in gear to realize they're getting very close very fast - hit the brake and light 'em up.

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It just makes sense to look in the rear view mirror when you are decelerationg to see who is there, and how close they are.

Sometimes it makes sense to touch the brakes not for the purpose of engaging the brakes, but rather for the purpose of engaging the brake light.
This is even more effective if you have a brake light enhancement like pulsing LEDs.
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I grew up with the habit of touching the brake pedal in my cars and the front brake lever on all my bikes just enough to have the brake lights come on but not enough to actuate the brakes. Same thing if I need to slow down and there is heavy traffic ahead of me. Been rear-ended in my cage in Paris... Learned the proper technique after that.

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I also became aware of this some time ago and started using a light drag of the rear brake to light up the brake lights. I don't wish to challenge the driving skills of those behind me .

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Slight pressure on the rear brake to turn the lights on is always the best move.
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... wondered how the driver behind me would know that was what I was doing. I touched my brakes to let them know, but wonder if this is a problem. ..
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It just makes sense to look in the rear view mirror when you are decelerationg to see who is there, and how close they are.

Sometimes it makes sense to touch the brakes not for the purpose of engaging the brakes, but rather for the purpose of engaging the brake light.
This is even more effective if you have a brake light enhancement like pulsing LEDs.
Ditto

The first thing I look at when braking in any vehicle is in the mirrors. I have changed my plans many times based on what goes on behind me. (I also try to pay attention to what's in front as well)

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The first thing I look at when braking in any vehicle is in the mirrors.
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I was about to say, whenever someone is behind me, they aren't within close enough distance to matter for long how much I slow down!

In all seriousness though, you make a good point. I usually apply some rear brake compensated with some throttle when slowing and for slower speed maneuvers, especially when in tight traffic for greater visibility and to avoid putting down a foot unless absolutely necessary.

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In the Beginner rider couse we teach riders to signal there intentions Ie flashing the brake light etc. Not a bad idea at all. It is all about being visiblity.

When I am stopped and there is no one behind me I am always checking my rearview just to make sure but when I see someone approaching I will flash the brake to hopefully get their attention. If that does not work I start executing my escape plan.

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