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Waiting for the fall to replace the LT. (My SS kicks in then and I'll have a touch more cash in my pocket.) The above are my current choices. Most likely it will be the GT, but the R Sport has its benefits. More ponies, lower price, more ponies.
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post #4 of 12 Old Jun 7th, 2007, 10:30 am
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I have only ridden the FJR of the three you mentioned but ......

When I bought my 04 K1200GT I rode an 05 FJR ABS with low miles back to back ......now I know in 06 they got some much needed improvements but......I was really disappointed. I really thought the FJR was going to be the bike I bought after hearin everyone talk it up and all the reading in every mag........

The biggest problem for me was VIBES. For a sport tourer this is a no no in my book because its not a fixable problem. Seats windshields pegs bars luggage , even power and suspesion can be fixed but VIBES , nope. These made the bike feel very unrefined (along with the rediculous heat and less refined suspension) and uncomfortable ( I road the bike almost an hour).

I could not believe it...... hopping on the GT was a revalation......I even got back on the FJR again thinking maybe I......nope. Even the power didnt feel that much greater.....it was definitely stronger but not enough to make me freak or anything, GT plenty stron enough.

Now the new GT is supposed to be substantially better so I can only imagine......the 06 FJR have cured the heat issue but still VIBE.....unacceptable to me.

Good luck in your quest , and I hope this helps......ride em before you buy em , everyone is different.

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Waiting for the fall to replace the LT. (My SS kicks in then and I'll have a touch more cash in my pocket.) The above are my current choices. Most likely it will be the GT, but the R Sport has its benefits. More ponies, lower price, more ponies.
Come on fall!
Save a few of them SS smacks and buy a GT!

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I have an 05 FJR and 05 LT and have only sat on the GT.

I love the way the FJR handles and it's vast reliability as compared to the GT problems. Yes, It does throw out engine heat but that has been fixed in newer models. Had to install the Cruise control and Heated grips, but thats the extent of saying anything bad about the bike.. Seat to peg is the same as the LT for me.

It does not have the superior fit and finish of the BMW but the ease of maint, reliability and cost factor also must be weighed.

My S/O loves it as as her primary bike and will even be riding it in a womans Track day here in Seattle soon.......This bike is a keeper for her.

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I have only ridden the FJR of the three you mentioned but ......

When I bought my 04 K1200GT I rode an 05 FJR ABS with low miles back to back ......now I know in 06 they got some much needed improvements but......I was really disappointed. I really thought the FJR was going to be the bike I bought after hearin everyone talk it up and all the reading in every mag........

The biggest problem for me was VIBES. For a sport tourer this is a no no in my book because its not a fixable problem. Seats windshields pegs bars luggage , even power and suspesion can be fixed but VIBES , nope. These made the bike feel very unrefined (along with the rediculous heat and less refined suspension) and uncomfortable ( I road the bike almost an hour).

I could not believe it...... hopping on the GT was a revalation......I even got back on the FJR again thinking maybe I......nope. Even the power didnt feel that much greater.....it was definitely stronger but not enough to make me freak or anything, GT plenty stron enough.

Now the new GT is supposed to be substantially better so I can only imagine......the 06 FJR have cured the heat issue but still VIBE.....unacceptable to me.

Good luck in your quest , and I hope this helps......ride em before you buy em , everyone is different.
I know what you are talking about with the vibes. My 05FJR had them from about 4500 RPM and up until I got busy fixing it. First thing is the PowerCommander and Throttlebody sync. Second was adding the frame sliders and retorque of the engine mounting bolts. Third was adding some silicone spacers between the muffler brackets and peg mounts. Fourth was some nice soft touring grips.

I think alot of it is due to the engine being a fully integral part of the frame structure so the rider feels every little hiccup. Some like that feedback, but Im not one of them. At least not of this type of bike and for as long as I like to be on it.

Sad that one has to do such things to a $14K machine, but it worked wonders and made the bike a joy. But no matter what you do to it, it will NEVER be an LT. That level of smoothness is just way out of the FJR's league.

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Sad that one has to do such things to a $14K machine
Not anything unique to the FJR. On my last three bikes a different seat and windscreen have been the start of a slippery slope
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Not anything unique to the FJR. On my last three bikes a different seat and windscreen have been the start of a slippery slope

Tell me about it. I have 3 cars, 2 bikes, 1 truck, and 1 boat. All of which just weren't good enough as designed, so you know what my weekends are about. Oh well, I guess I could be sending that money to ex-wives. Not!

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I'm keeping a close eye on the new Concourse 14, I too will replacing my LT either Fall or Spring. Probably wait till Spring, let some some of the dealer hype,(prices) drop and read some reviews. Prices were finally released on the Kawasaki price, I believe $12,999 for non ABS and 13,899 for ABS.
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Connie 14 looks interesting but .......they have released some numbers finally. 140 lbs heavier than the ZX14. Same fuel capacity and 35 less hp. This puts it right in line with the new K1200GT......but significantly cheaper , though I am SURE that extra coin buys intangibles the Kawi cant be modified to possess......

Bit disappointed that it wasnt lighter with more power......Of course the true proof will be in actually riding it.......so I will reserve final judgement.....

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140 lbs heavier than the ZX14....and 35 less hp.
WOW! I didn't know a larger windscreen and saddle bags weighed 140 pounds! Maybe they're made of lead? 35 less HP? Why?!

I'm very disappointed already!

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