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post #1 of 14 Old Apr 26th, 2007, 8:13 pm Thread Starter
 
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My local dealer, who is also a friend, took back an 07 GL the other day with 275 miles on it. The buyer decided he couldn't afford it.

Rich decided to keep it for himself, but I talked him into a short ride.

What sneaky smooth power. I was seriously impressed. It had every option except the airbag. The only immediate hassle was the too low handlebars. (Same problem with the LT.)

Anyway, I don't want one, but it was pretty nice.

Wandering just a bit, I'm currently torn between a GT and an FJR. They're both great bikes. BTW, if BMW had a newer, ligter, more powerful LT out it would probably win hands down.
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My local dealer, who is also a friend, took back an 07 GL the other day with 275 miles on it. The buyer decided he couldn't afford it.

Rich decided to keep it for himself, but I talked him into a short ride.

What sneaky smooth power. I was seriously impressed. It had every option except the airbag. The only immediate hassle was the too low handlebars. (Same problem with the LT.)

Anyway, I don't want one, but it was pretty nice.

Wandering just a bit, I'm currently torn between a GT and an FJR. They're both great bikes. BTW, if BMW had a newer, ligter, more powerful LT out it would probably win hands down.
John, if you can afford it, go with the GT. I was going to add the FJR to the stable, BUT, after a test ride, I changed my mind. The FJR still has some heat management issues that I did not like.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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You have too many toys and too much time on your hands.
Just because what you say is true doesn't mean I don't still have a dilemma. $20+ grand for a GT or $15 plus K for an FJR. (The LT have gotten too heavy for my old bones.) Boss says I gotta sell at least one if not two of the curent rides before I can have a new one.
The XJ 900 is on its' way out, and I hope to trade the LT for my next bike, so I'll be down to the KLR and whatever I buy. A not unreasonable mix.
As to too much time, if you can find this older fellow a decent job up here that still leaves time to ride, I'd happily go to work.
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Just learned yesterday that two local guys who have for decades ridden BMW's and most recently LT's purchased GL1800's. Don't know what caused them to switch. They were hardcore. Probably still are, just on a 1800 now. If I find out why, I will share with you.

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Just because what you say is true doesn't mean I don't still have a dilemma. $20+ grand for a GT or $15 plus K for an FJR. (The LT have gotten too heavy for my old bones.) Boss says I gotta sell at least one if not two of the curent rides before I can have a new one.
The XJ 900 is on its' way out, and I hope to trade the LT for my next bike, so I'll be down to the KLR and whatever I buy. A not unreasonable mix.
As to too much time, if you can find this older fellow a decent job up here that still leaves time to ride, I'd happily go to work.
John, may your days be filled repeatedly with such dilemmas! Until mine are too, please keep sharing them here!

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John, if you can afford it, go with the GT. I was going to add the FJR to the stable, BUT, after a test ride, I changed my mind. The FJR still has some heat management issues that I did not like.
Bull shit on that comment, that is totally wrong, there are no heat issues, I've got an 07 and it is awsome. Go test ride one for about an hour like I did and you will find out for yourself.

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Bull shit on that comment, that is totally wrong, there are no heat issues, I've got an 07 and it is awsome. Go test ride one for about an hour like I did and you will find out for yourself.
Rich, your panties are twisting for no reason. I test rode an 07 for over three hours. The bike is awesome. An outstanding value, no doubt. I noticed that there was too much heat radiating to my lower legs/feet area for MY preference. Someone else may not have noticed it. Had the day been cooler, maybe I would not have noticed. Personal preferences are like assholes: everybody has one and they all stink!

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Rich, your panties are twisting for no reason. I test rode an 07 for over three hours. The bike is awesome. An outstanding value, no doubt. I noticed that there was too much heat radiating to my lower legs/feet area for MY preference. Someone else may not have noticed it. Had the day been cooler, maybe I would not have noticed. Personal preferences are like assholes: everybody has one and they all stink!
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I am wondering why, when one of these "LT is too big/heavy" discussions comes up, no one ever mentions the Honda ST1300? Seems to be a more "touring" version of the FJR, in that is has the smooth powerful engine, is smaller and lighter than the LT, and costs around $15k with ABS.

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Just learned yesterday that two local guys who have for decades ridden BMW's and most recently LT's purchased GL1800's. Don't know what caused them to switch. They were hardcore. Probably still are, just on a 1800 now. If I find out why, I will share with you.

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My guess would be "dealership visibility" as BMW has few and far between.
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I have ridden the GL1800 quite a bit as my father in law bought one for each house. I have nearly run over my foot twice now and rolled my foot under most of the bike once. It seems a lot wider and lower than the LT. Keep in mind the motor is bigger than a Civic's. It's heavier but seems lighter due to the lower cg. I don't like it as I like the weight between my legs not between my feet. It is a totally different beast. I have never been able to get used to the Jap power. I don't know how to explain it, but on a steep hill, and I mean steep the GW lurches when you give it power.
Just my opinion, but I would have to get used to it before I would ever lay down the dough.

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I am wondering why, when one of these "LT is too big/heavy" discussions comes up, no one ever mentions the Honda ST1300? Seems to be a more "touring" version of the FJR, in that is has the smooth powerful engine, is smaller and lighter than the LT, and costs around $15k with ABS.
I briefly looked at an ST1300 when shopping for a sport tourer, there was just too much of the "Jack of all trades, master of none" feel to it. That describes most Hondas though, doesn't it? The ST is hotter, heavier, slower, and $2k more than the FJR.

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