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Hello Community,

I admit to extensive lurking and now I'm a bit tired of the nagging message about posting. So here 'tis. Nagging works.
I have been following this forum intensively and I have seen many useful or helpful posts. It provides much more positive feedback than any other forum I have seen. I guess it's like the American hospitality. Quite in contrast to the picture of America that Hollywood produces.
For two years I have had the pleasure of a K1200LT 2002 Mauve, fully equipped. It has been two years of luxury, comfort and precise handling. I will always recommend this great ship to people, provided they comprehend the physics involved with such a big rig. But lately it has been like I was missing some of the excitement. I guess it is in the weight and handling of the ship.
A few days ago I had a chance to do a test ride on a R1200GS, a R1200RT and a K1200GT, one after the other, so I had a good comparison. After that I went home on the LT. I knew in my heart that if I was to regain riding excitement (on a BMW that is) the RT would be my choice. The GS was fun, but too little comfort compared with what I was used to. The GT was even greater fun, but again not quite what I was looking for.
The next day I called my pusher and we made the deal. On monday I'm a boxer-owner. It's a nearly unused, but fully equipped R1200RT, in Dark Graphite grey. And it is about 300 pounds (150 kg's) less bike to handle.

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Don't matter what you ride...just so you ride. Of course, that's spoken like a true GT rider. Some of these LT riders in here are still fairly rooted in the flagship of this website. But that's OK. It's not such a bad bike to be stuck on either.

Enjoy the new bike...and don't wait two years to tell us how you like it. Congrats!
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+1 to what Joe said. We want to hear about the thrills and smiles that your new ride brings your way.

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Hello community,

I admit to extensive lurking and now I'm a bit tired of the nagging message about posting. So here 'tis. Nagging works.
Greetings and welcome to our little web site!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Howdy from Texas!

The important thing is you were able to "refresh" your motorcycling spirit... and keep riding.

My first LT I ever rode was the 2005 I bought and currently ride.... I can see myself owning another "style" of BMW, but if it means losing Misty, it aint happening.

Enjoy ! Visit often!

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Hello Community,

I admit to extensive lurking and now I'm a bit tired of the nagging message about posting. So here 'tis. Nagging works.
I have been following this forum intensively and I have seen many useful or helpful posts. It provides much more positive feedback than any other forum I have seen. I guess it's like the American hospitality. Quite in contrast to the picture of America that Hollywood produces.
For two years I have had the pleasure of a K1200LT 2002 Mauve, fully equipped. It has been two years of luxury, comfort and precise handling. I will always recommend this great ship to people, provided they comprehend the physics involved with such a big rig. But lately it has been like I was missing some of the excitement. I guess it is in the weight and handling of the ship.
A few days ago I had a chance to do a test ride on a R1200GS, a R1200RT and a K1200GT, one after the other, so I had a good comparison. After that I went home on the LT. I knew in my heart that if I was to regain riding excitement (on a BMW that is) the RT would be my choice. The GS was fun, but too little comfort compared with what I was used to. The GT was even greater fun, but again not quite what I was looking for.
The next day I called my pusher and we made the deal. On monday I'm a boxer-owner. It's a nearly unused, but fully equipped R1200RT, in Dark Graphite grey. And it is about 300 pounds (150 kg's) less bike to handle.

Cheers,
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Welcome! My brother in law loves his boxer. Good choice and I hope you have many miles of riding fun!

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Hi Carsten, welcome to the forum - it's suprising what type of bike you'll get used to, GT's are good, but the LT is where it's at !!

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Welcome to the site. The RT is a good choice. I have an LT but was actually was looking at the RT myself. I found for two up the LT was a better bike for me. This year my wife is taking a motorcycle course and if she decides that she wants her own bike I will probably go with the RT. Happy riding.
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Hi all,

Thanks for the replies.
I took possession of the RT last Sunday - the dealer was in anyway because of a 'Coffee-Rally' of the national BMW MC Club. The wife (riding her R 1150 RT - Biarritz-blau) and I had to go some 300 km's (about 187 miles) to get there - from Zealand to Jutland - and we just finished a party in our own club the night before while keeping the intake of alcohol to a minimum close to boring.
We had agreed to make the swap after the coffee-drinking was over and the waiting was worth the while. We had free grilled Frankfurter's (German sausages) and apple pie as well as raw amounts of coffee.
The dealer instantly sent the LT away as a loaner-bike (while service was being done to the client's own LT) and we were a little stunned to see it go away. It was never as personal to me as my old Honda ST1100 which we had sold to the same dealer last year. I had the ST for 11 years and had grown quite attached to it - I even spelled my name with caps 'ST'. But it was a funny feeling to see the old Light Truck disappear.
Then the 'new' slightly used and almost run-in RT was pulled out. It had 4613 km's on the clock (2880 miles) and not a scratch. It came with the full package: Big top box, Radio, ESA, Navi II (2610), cruise control and heated seats. I decided to buy an original tank bag and it was mounted right away. I also had delivery of a baehr Ultima XL adapted to the RT (it's a communication box in case you dont' know the baehr products) and because I wanted to mount it myself I had the baehr box filling up the trunk and I needed more space.
The first trip was just around the corner to the local camp-site where we had rented a cabin for the night.
The next day we went south to Germany along minor country roads (yeah - remember John D) and I just fell in love with that bike. Of course it is very different from the LT - especially the handling of the lesser weight when coming to a stop - and the accelereration is also much improved.
We stopped over at some friends in Germany and the next day we went home to Zealand.

First impressions:
I have on occasion been riding boxers - R 1100 and R 1150 - and they always seemed raw and unpolished in the engine department. The rest of the bikes have always been above standard and so is my impression of this bike. It still has a slight on-off-on-off hesitation when keeping a steady pace in town traffic. This should have been solved by the dual ignition but it is only partly solved in my opinion. It has a very long 1st gear and 2nd gear feels too low in rpm when doing a 90 degree street corner. I have to get used to that raw feeling otherwise I won't do good in the hairpins down in the Alps. The gear shifting is just as smooth as on an oil-clutched Japanese and much better than the LT's.
Acceleration is nice - not to be compared to a four cylinder Japanese - but nice. Vibes in the handles show up when rpm increase above 5000 but not alarming. I clocked 207 km/h on the GPS fully loaded one-up with trunk (that's about 130 mph). But there's more in it, I'm sure.
Wind protection is very good. I prefer to look over the edge, but the optics are OK if you want to look through it in the highest setting. Turbulence will occur in side wind conditions - the screen is too narrow to eliminate it.
The top box has to come off to ensure accurate tracking - it seems heavy and it is mounted far off the rear wheel center (the donut). BMW has again wasted precious space to make a double-walled trunk. I would have preferred a 50 liter Givi. We took a two-up trip with the trunk mounted, and the wife says she sits just as comfortable as on the LT. The buffeting we knew from the LT was not present, except for side-wind conditions. She also sits lower than on the LT and that's probably the best explanation.
I had the tupperware and the gas tank off to mount the baehr and I think there is an improvement to the size of screws and bolts - they're all the same size - wow.

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Old rides: K1200LT 2002 Mauve 2005 - 2007, Honda ST1100 1995, Honda CBR1000F 1991, Suzuki GSX500ED 1989, Suzuki GS750 1978, Suzuki GS400 1977.
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