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post #1 of 73 Old Apr 17th, 2007, 12:34 pm Thread Starter
 
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Exclamation The Few...The Proud . . . the NON-DROPPERS!

We see all these threads about folks dropping their bikes, and quite frankly, the LT does like to lay down once-in-awhile. Hey! She's a big girl! What can you say? It's also pretty good therapy for those with bruised egos, to confess thy sins before their fellow brothers and sisters.


But this thread is for an entirely different group. It's for "the quiet ones". The ones that have actually overcome the gravitational pull. (At least for NOW! )


Yes folks . . . I , just Joe, aka 'messenger13', am a full-fledged NON-DROPPER! I have yet to even come close to dropping my '06 K1200GT. And as I head out on the open road this Saturday, I expect my record to remain untarnished. From the North Coast, to the West Coast . . . and back again.

So to the rest of you NON-DROPPERS, I salute you! Keep up the fine work! (...and your bike!)





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Brings a tear to my eye. . .

Looking forward to meeting you, Joe, as you pass trough Texas. The offer of a place to stay in the Dallas area remains open.

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Joe, I hope you just didn't jinx it!!!
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Joe, I hope you just didn't jinx it!!!
Looking forward to seeing you on the Left Coast!
I don't believe in "jinx"es. What will happen, will happen. But if my GT's on it's side, you can bet it'll either be caused by a freakin' deer, or a low-side slide due to excessive speed.

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It's for "the quiet ones".
Yes. I'm right here next to you, Joe. Enough said.

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My name is John and I am a non-dropper....so far.

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We see all these threads about folks dropping their bikes, and quite frankly, the LT does like to lay down once-in-awhile. Hey! She's a big girl! What can you say? It's also pretty good therapy for those with bruised egos, to confess thy sins before their fellow brothers and sisters.


But this thread is for an entirely different group. It's for "the quiet ones". The ones that have actually overcome the gravitational pull. (At least for NOW! )


Yes folks . . . I , just Joe, aka 'messenger13', am a full-fledged NON-DROPPER! I have yet to even come close to dropping my '06 K1200GT. And as I head out on the open road this Saturday, I expect my record to remain untarnished. From the North Coast, to the West Coast . . . and back again.

So to the rest of you NON-DROPPERS, I salute you! Keep up the fine work! (...and your bike!)





To the FEW! . . .
The PROUD! . . .
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Joe, Are you having pre-withdrawals from www.bmwlt.com prior to your trip. Is there any on-road therapy?

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Never dropped your GT? I believe you. Of course, if you really wanted to come clean you'd admit that you did drop your LT (now gone). You mentioned it in a post a long time ago. I've never been on a GT other than on a showroom floor, but I have to think it would be tougher to drop a GT than an LT.

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I touch wood everyday. I've had my LT for 6 months now, ride it nearly everyday, use reverse every time to negotiate out of the garage and around various objects in the path (20 foot trip).

But I'm sure I would have dropped it by now if I hadnt brushed up on the characteristics of the bike that I've learned here....front wheel straight while coming to a stop, WIDE stance of the feet on the ground while stopped (very important while 2 up), both feet on the ground, and both hands on the grips while passenger mounts/dismounts, NEVER back up over an obstacle, such as a curb...almost got bit there !

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Brings a tear to my eye. . .

Looking forward to meeting you, Joe, as you pass trough Texas. The offer of a place to stay in the Dallas area remains open.
With you both doing an average of between 150 and 300 post per month would there be any time to talk to each other???

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Good Luck on your trip Joe !!!!

Hopfully you can still say the same when you return home

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Never dropped your GT? I believe you. Of course, if you really wanted to come clean you'd admit that you did drop your LT (now gone). You mentioned it in a post a long time ago. I've never been on a GT other than on a showroom floor, but I have to think it would be tougher to drop a GT than an LT.

But hey -- I've never dropped a GT either.
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Hello my name is Gilles and I never dropped Joe's GT either!
Do you want too drop Joe's GT Gilles ?

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Joe, even mentioning the LT and the GT in the same sentence relative to dropping is pretty ludicrous. Of course you have not dropped the GT yet. Kinda like comparing a Carbine to a Barrett 50 CAL.

Dropping the LT is kinda a "rites of passage" thing, dropping the GT would be far more embarrasing. and likely more expensive?

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With you both doing an average of between 150 and 300 post per month would there be any time to talk to each other???
LOL Scott! You owe me a keyboard for that! AND a can of coke!

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due to excessive speed.
There is no such thing only piss poor tire compounds.
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Those who have dropped their bike, and those who will.
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It depends on your definition of "drop". To me, drop implies that you were at a dead stop or at most a walking pace when the bike went horzontal. Also, how far over does the bike have to be to be considered "dropped"? If I'm still hanging onto it and it has not come to a rest, that is, it would go over farther if I let go, but it's not exactly under my complete control, is that a "drop"?

Until these questions are answered, I can not advise one way or the other whether I have "dropped" my LT.


I did get so completely stuck in the mud on a long downhill driveway that I had to sort of "set" the bike down and get off since I couldn't get the sidestand down, and I had been going about 10 mph at the time it started to sink in.

Other than that, I have not "dropped" my LT.


Also, do you have to be on or touching the bike at the time it went over to be considered a "drop"? I left my GL1500 sideways on a steep hill once and it fell over after I walked away. Would that be a "drop"?

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It's a gravity thing, guys.. very reliable...

I've dropped my LT... once. Very memorable and a great learning experience.. Like my Pop says.. "Takeoffs are optional, landings aren't. If you can walk away, it was a good landing... if you can reuse the aircraft, it was an EXCELLENT landing."

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Anybody else get a chuckle out of Joe starting a thread for "the quiet ones"?

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Joe never dropped the LT, but he did pick it up a time or two.

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Anybody else get a chuckle out of Joe starting a thread for "the quiet ones"?
Someone has to be "their voice".
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Joe never dropped the LT, but he did pick it up a time or two.
I picked it up twice. Once...totally my fault. The second time, I was nowhere near the bike when it fell (was knocked over?). Very strange circumstances. No more comment.
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It depends on your definition of "drop". To me, drop implies that you were at a dead stop or at most a walking pace when the bike went horzontal.
We're on the same page...
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The second time, I was nowhere near the bike when it fell (was knocked over?). Very strange circumstances. No more comment.
Been there brother, not a good feeling. For me it was the Triumph and I remember being shocked at how flat it lies on its side.

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Smile So far I'm in Joe's camp

Though I've followed the described course of dreaded actions that tends to cause the bike to fall I can't seem to get it to do it.
So far.... so good.
1.5 years of riding it and coming to a stop and turning the wheels while applying brakes etc. doesn't seem to do it for me.
Possibly a lesson sometime soon will cure me and i will join the other club.

Have a great trip and a safe ride.

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I dropped my 600 shadow once years ago. Never dropped the Vstrom in 4 years. Did "crash", i.e. the rear slid out from under on cold tires playing on the MSF range. And then the crash that killed the strom.

So far in 6 months and 3100 miles on the LT, no drops. Have had a coupla "oh sh#t" moments.

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So far in 6 months and 3100 miles on the LT, no drops. Have had a coupla "oh sh#t" moments.
3100 miles in 6 months? Either you own 3 other bikes, or you want that LT to last you awhile.

I'm leaving Saturday morning, and I'll have 3,100 more miles on the clock in less than a week. You better get to riding. The clock keeps on a'tickin', doncha know?
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I don't believe in "jinx"es. What will happen, will happen. But if my GT's on it's side, you can bet it'll either be caused by a freakin' deer, or a low-side slide due to excessive speed.

Looking forward to meeting you Mr. Zip!

You are SURE to drop it now....just like your weather predictions.....


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If I had a girls bike I would not drop it either.

Just say you're scared, so you had to turn in your LT, to a lighter bike. There are only two type of riders. Once who dropped and ones that going to drop.
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One of the quiet ones ... but ... never dropped either one of these bikes! In fact, never dropped a BMW in my life. That ole' '02 GL1800, now that's another story.


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Just say you're scared, so you had to turn in your LT, to a lighter bike. There are only two type of riders. Once who dropped and ones that going to drop.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Now be on your way, and try to keep it under the speed limit.


Curious though...last time I checked, your RT-P was on it's side more times than my LT ever was.
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I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Now be on your way, and try to keep it under the speed limit.


Curious though...last time I checked, your RT-P was on it's side more times than my LT ever was.
Man, that is what I call kicking a man while he is down!

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I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Now be on your way, and try to keep it under the speed limit.


Curious though...last time I checked, your RT-P was on it's side more times than my LT ever was.
My 02 and 07 have never and I repeat never been on it's side. Unless you counting my crashes, which "for the record" were not my fault. Just keep wearing your dress. I should call you Mrs.Messenger13.
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Yes folks . . . I , just Joe, aka 'messenger13', am a full-fledged NON-DROPPER! I have yet to even come close to dropping my '06 K1200GT. And as I head out on the open road this Saturday, I expect my record to remain untarnished. From the North Coast, to the West Coast . . . and back again.


OK Joe! Can you make that same boast about the LT you had before the GT?

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post #39 of 73 Old Apr 18th, 2007, 6:39 pm Thread Starter
 
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OK Joe! Can you make that same boast about the LT you had before the GT?
No sir, I cannot. I dropped my LT . . . once. But I do have this funny little habit of trying to live in the present.
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post #40 of 73 Old Apr 19th, 2007, 6:46 am
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3100 miles in 6 months? Either you own 3 other bikes, or you want that LT to last you awhile.

I'm leaving Saturday morning, and I'll have 3,100 more miles on the clock in less than a week. You better get to riding. The clock keeps on a'tickin', doncha know?
Hey, I got two kids, a wife, and another kid on the way. PLUS, SOMEONE has to teach others how to ride. So many of my weekends are filled. When I get OLD like you guys , I'll have more time to ride.....

This bike is an 03 that only had 6289 miles when I bught it, so I've done HALF of what it got in it's first 3 years in 6 months. I would love to commute, but to do that, I have to drop one kid at school, swing back by house, pick up second kid , and drop him at school, then to work. And we do that on occasion. I just do not have time to go ride for a week or whatever without leaving a couple of someones at home, dangit.

I'll catch up to ya sometime. I still ride bike as much as I drive, so I don;t feel too bad.....

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No sir, I cannot. I dropped my LT . . . once. But I do have this funny little habit of trying to live in the present.
I guess I'll follow your lead then. I have not dropped my LT TODAY

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I guess I'll follow your lead then. I have not dropped my LT TODAY
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Thumbs up We salute you, real man of genius.

Bud Lite salutes you Messenger13, I swear I heard one of their commercials that mentioned you...

Real man of genius
Mr. "Never dropped his beemer guy"

Yes, he may drop $1,000.00 on minor maintenance at the Beemer dealer - but he'll never let his bike hit the asphalt.

So, I salute you, by raising a cold Bud Lite in your honor...


By the way - if you're in Sac on the big ride, let me know. You can hang at Casa de Hallzee.

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Yes, he may drop $1,000.00 on minor maintenance at the Beemer dealer - but he'll never let his bike hit the asphalt.
Boy! You don't know me at all. Or my shop. I'll tell you the stories sometime.

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By the way - if you're in Sac on the big ride, let me know. You can hang at Casa de Hallzee.
Well as a matter of fact . . .
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Andy, with Joe on the road for three weeks, we will save a fortune on server power consumption
I don't think so guys. Joe probably has a hi speed wireless card for his laptop!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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My 02 and 07 have never and I repeat never been on it's side. Unless you counting my crashes, which "for the record" were not my fault. Just keep wearing your dress. I should call you Mrs. Messenger13.
Just for the record, I like Joe's dress!

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Bud Lite salutes you Messenger13, I swear I heard one of their commercials that mentioned you...

Real man of genius
Mr. "Never dropped his beemer guy"

Yes, he may drop $1,000.00 on minor maintenance at the Beemer dealer - but he'll never let his bike hit the asphalt.

So, I salute you, by raising a cold Bud Lite in your honor...


By the way - if you're in Sac on the big ride, let me know. You can hang at Casa de Hallzee.
Could we exchange that Butt-wiper light for an ice cold Guinness, however?!

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I don't think so guys. Joe probably has a hi speed wireless card for his laptop!
Actually...no, I do not.

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Could we exchange that Butt-wiper light for an ice cold Guinness, however?!
Now THAT's what I'm talking about.
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Actually...no, I do not.
Well you need to get one NOW! Do you want us to suffer messenger 13 withdrawals?!

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Well you need to get one NOW! Do you want us to suffer messenger 13 withdrawals?!
Don't worry, his next disappearing act is not due until post # 14,999

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