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post #1 of 18 Old Feb 24th, 2007, 10:31 pm Thread Starter
 
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Tire Changing Debacle...

Maybe this should be in the humor forum....

I thought about posting this under a fake id or saying a friend called me with this sad story, but I couldn't lie - maybe you'll get a chuckle out of it or learn a tiny lesson....

Well, I finally got off my keyster and decided to put the new rubber on the front - only my 2nd tire change all by myself. My hope was to go nice and easy and not break anything or hurt myself and be done in a couple hours....

Got the tools out, post-it with the torque settings, got the van out of the way, etc. Got the Harbor Freight set up - I use a temporary type system since I can't anchor it permanently.

Wheel off with no problems - I swear those brake calipers or a huge PITA....

Got the tire off with no problems, cleaned up the inside of the rim, etc. Mounting wasn't to bad, but it isn't easy by yourself, on a temporary mounted changer, on a garage floor that still hand some sand on it (yes, I tried sweeping first).

Anyways, got the tire on and was making decent time. Got the bead set almost immediately and only took a couple minutes to balance. I thought I was home free, but things were about to go very bad very quickly...

I had opened the garage door to let in a few more leaves and some fresh air. Took the wheel off the balancer and screwed out the valve stem core so I could put in some Ride-On TPS goop. Goop is in, time to put the stem core back in. Sitting on the chair watching the neighbors walk by and feeling pretty darn smug while I screwed the valve stem core in... Finally, a little voice waaaay back in the back says, boy that valve stem core sure is a long winded sucker - about that time CLUNK!

Basically, what I had done is screwed the valve stem core in alright, but I had also un-screwed the valve stem and it fell into the tire! I am thankful the wife and kids weren't around - I said some pretty foul things and probably made up a few to boot... I was no longer going to be done in under 2 hrs...

De-mount the tire, without losing the Ride-On goop, fish out the valve stem, clean it off, put it back on and TIGHTEN the darn thing! Ok, that wasn't to bad, except I had already broken down the HF and put it up first - oh well....

Now it is time to mount the tire - that isn't easy by yourself, but I just did it 30 minutes ago, surely I haven't forgotten how. Sooo, I begin trying to mount the tire. Somewhere along the way the tire has become demon possessed - the fight is on, words flying, I have everything so greased up it isn't funny.... 30 minutes later I have the tire on the wheel - my back is hurt, I think I pulled something in my arm, and I smashed a finger. This was probably the low moment in my motorcycle relationship.

At least I don't have to re-balance since I had marked the tire before breaking it down - besides with the goop in it, re-balancing wasn't an option.

Ok, put the HF and tools up - again. Seat the bead - again. Clean up the axle, bushings, spacer, etc. and grease them up. Got the wheel on with minimal trouble - could have used a tap from the trustee rubber mallet, but it had been borrowed and not put back in its proper place - heads will role.

Brake calipers virtually leapt back on - got them both on over their rotors in less than 15 seconds combined! WTH?

Anyways, the wheel is on the bike, tools are wiped down and put away, got the Ibuprofen going, and I saved money! WooHoo! 3 hours to essentially change the same tire twice tire changes.

Lesson: Make sure the nut on your metal valve stems is tightened.
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I feel for you Shawn,, Been there, Done that, Way too many times brother...

Not exactly that, but the same story with different parts..

Never pat yourself on the back before the job is completely done...And verified.

Murphy will jump up and give you a big tap.....On the finger...!!

But, They say practice makes perfect.. Next time you'll do the whole job in under an hour...You just got your "experience" dues paid...

So, I can come over there next time I need to change a tire ?

Na, I'll just have the guy at The Motorcycle Tire Store here in OKC change mine out for 5.00 .

Just take the JD cure and you'll be fine... Hope you didn't really hurt yourself..

Hope to see you soon... Are you going to make CCR this year ?

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Tire Changing Debacle...

Well Shawn, you did a hell of a job wrenching--even if the going was a little rough at times.

I've been wrenching the cages for over twenty years and I know better than to even try and screw with my BMW's tires!

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Hey Shawn, Didn't you realize a tire changer is hardware and not software?

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Well done there gulfxray at least you accomplished what you set out to do.

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Hey Shawn, I thought for sure you were gonna say, right at the last there, got her all buttoned up and noticed the tire was on backwards.



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Hey Shawn, I thought for sure you were gonna say, right at the last there, got her all buttoned up and noticed the tire was on backwards.
That would definitley be somethin' I would do! I got it on right both times, although the second time around I quadruple checked the damn arrow!
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Hey Shawn, Didn't you realize a tire changer is hardware and not software?
Good one Steve! Thank goodnees I don't have to do this very often...
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That would definitley be somethin' I would do! I got it on right both times, aAlthough the second time around I quadruple checked the damn arrow!
I've only done it once, and that was on a Harley. Of course, that's not saying I won't do it again.



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I feel for you Shawn,, Been there, Done that, Way too many times brother...

Not exactly that, but the same story with different parts..

Never pat yourself on the back before the job is completely done...And verified.

Murphy will jump up and give you a big tap.....On the finger...!!

But, They say practice makes perfect.. Next time you'll do the whole job in under an hour...You just got your "experience" dues paid...

So, I can come over there next time I need to change a tire ?

Na, I'll just have the guy at The Motorcycle Tire Store here in OKC change mine out for 5.00 .

Just take the JD cure and you'll be fine... Hope you didn't really hurt yourself..

Hope to see you soon... Are you going to make CCR this year ?

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$5 to change a tire?! Grrrr...... My closest dealer told me year before last that it was essentiall an hours labor even if I walked in the wheel off the bike. That kicked in the ol' stubborn gene and a buddy and I did it that year and I got the HF and No-Mar bar last year so I could do it on my schedule.

CCR looks doubtful - med bills....

Maybe in a few weeks we can have a RTE and see who made it through the winter....

Best to you and yours John...
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Hey Shawn, good and instructive story. Persig wrote about "gumption traps" in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenace, and a bunch of them opened up for you, but you never lost your gumption. There's no failure in making a mistake, that's just making a mistake, which we all do. Congrats on your success!

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Don't know if you have done this or not but put you changer where you want to use it. Drill holes in the legs of the changer and then drill some hole into the garage floor (hammer drill works great). Put some anchors in the holes so when you use the changer you just put bolts through the legs into the floor and now it's stable. When your not using the changer put a small plug in the anchor so it won't fill up with dirt. Have changed tire for many years and they are never fun, but anything helps.

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Don't know if you have done this or not but put you changer where you want to use it. Drill holes in the legs of the changer and then drill some hole into the garage floor (hammer drill works great). Put some anchors in the holes so when you use the changer you just put bolts through the legs into the floor and now it's stable. When your not using the changer put a small plug in the anchor so it won't fill up with dirt. Have changed tire for many years and they are never fun, but anything helps.
Good idea Doug... I mentioned this about a year ago and the idea was vetoed. After this last tire, I think i'm going to have to over ride that veto!
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Even a 4' X 8' sheet of 3/4" plywood with holes in it for bolts to anchor the changer would do the job. When done, remove the bolts and stand the plywood up against a wall, out of the way.
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Even a 4' X 8' sheet of 3/4" plywood with holes in it for bolts to anchor the changer would do the job. When done, remove the bolts and stand the plywood up against a wall, out of the way.
Right now I have the torture device bolted to a 2x12 ( ia have several feet worth off to the sides as well). It does ok, but not as good as I would like.

Probably going to go for the garage floor anchor this fall...
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You comin' down to Bastrop for the RTE this weekend??
I wish! Would love to shake your hand and say Howdy.... Youngest has a basketball game - one of the few things that take priority over riding.
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Youngest has a basketball game - one of the few things that take priority over riding.
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