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Almost Crushed by a 45,000lb coil on Monday

ABS, MSF Adv. Course and ATGATT saved my butt Monday...

Once again I was teased by one of my bosses about putting on all of my gear at my LT when leaving work. I said, "you just never know". This is what happened 10 minutes after I said that....(copy of the e-mail I sent to a few friends).

...Just thought I would pass the news clips along.

Monday afternoon I was leaving work (downtown Birmingham). I decided to take the highway home. I was following one of my bosses, Jamie McKinnon, onto the highway on my motorcycle (my K1200LT). At the top of the 26th Street onramp downtown there is a really short merge to get on the highway 20/59 Eastbound. Just as we got to the top of the ramp, a set of 3 tractor trailer rigs were in the center lane. The first truck slams on his brakes, tire smoke and everything, the second truck jumps on his brakes, causing the third to brake hard. The third truck had the steel coil on it.

My boss Jamie was next to the second truck when it slammed on the brakes and I was next to the third truck with the coil on it. I hear a loud pop and looked to my left to see this 45,000 lb steel coil slide forward on the trailer. Oh sh**, I jumped on my brakes in a full ABS panic stop and cut off the pickup behind me and kept him from going around me. Jamie made it far enough ahead so that the third truck missed clipping his back bumper. The third truck with the coil still attached, dove into the space I created in the right lane and managed to get the truck to the shoulder. Just before the truck came to a stop, the road banks hard to the right, where the angle and the pressure on the remaining chain and mounts on the trailer finally broke. The coil rolled off to the right, nailed the retaining wall almost going over and down onto the railroad tracks below. The coil slammed into the next section of the concrete wall flipping it vertically where it slipped in between the trailer
and the wall. The trailer's rear wheels ran up on to and over the 7' diameter coil. No other cars were hit, no one wrecked but the truck. When the coil hit the pavement it stopped. The force of the trailer going over the coil didn't
even budge it. The guy I cut off in the pickup came up to me and said he was happy I cut him off not realizing what was about to happen.

I'm amazed at how close I came to being a grease spot on the road. If I was
in my Toyota FJ Cruiser, I probably couldn't have stopped in time and been hit. I was on the LT because the FJ was broken into in Atlanta 18 hours earlier. I got home to Birmingham at 6:30 that morning with 2 hrs sleep and took the motorcycle to work because the FJ was at home in the garage with a broken window. That's another story. After a full day of work and less than 6 hours sleep in the past 48+ hours, I just lucky I had a little left to avoid a tragedy.

27 coils have come off trucks in this stretch over the past few years. 8 came off last year alone. This is the first one for the 20/59 corridor for 07. A coil like this came off in January nearly striking a woman's home in the Decatur area. Attached is the news footage, view it in real player or windows media player.

Sorry for the video quality I was only able to film it with my camera off my
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As others have said here before, all the gear all of the time. I highly believe in the MSF training courses and practicing panic stops and emergency manuvers regularly on your own time, it may save you butt. Happy I was riding my LT, ABS, good training and a lot of luck saved me that day.

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Hey, you got your 15 minutes of fame!

So what caused the first truck to slam on his brakes? Was the traffic completely backed up and he didn't notice? My instincts would have been to hit the throttle and get ahead of the 3rd truck. My theory is that it's better to be ahead of danger than behind it. It seems that you put yourself in harms way by slamming on your brakes and (intentionally?) cutting off a pickup truck? That may have been a noble gesture. However, I figure that by being on a bike, my first responsibility is to protect myself. Of course, I wasn't there, so I don't know how feasible it would have been to have gunned it ahead of the truck. Of course, you could have use the breakdown lane I guess. Although if there was truly no way to get far enough ahead of the 3rd truck to get clear of the danger then you did the right thing by stopping.

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I believe I saw you on the local news. I did not see your bike, but based on your riding gear I told my wife it looked like you were a BMW rider. Glad your safe. It seems as though something could be done about that steel dropping on the Interstate here. I wonder if that happens any where else or just a Birmingham issue?
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I'm visiting my dad just south of B'ham and it seems like every time I visit one of these coils is in the street. The newspaper makes it sound like business as usual. Happy you survived. Hopefully you got your auto back since the weather is a little chilly for MC riding. Found some ice in Alabaster this morning but was going slow and avoided it. Think I'll take the big rig tomorrow.
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Glad you came out of that one okay. What I want to knowis, do they call you sticky pants? You had to almost soil yourself with it being that close.

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Great Job, David!!! .. btw, was that you in the video?

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I have had an expierence on the freeway also where the great brakes of the LT saved my butt, glad you were unhurt. I have seen news footage of a dumb thief who in a pickup truck tried to steal one of those steel coils, the pickup bed was smashed flat to the ground!

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Everyone was doing about 30mph, which was unusually slow for this stretch of the highway.

I could not speed up to get past the truck, because my boss was in front of me with his County vehicle. With the merge ending, I was running out of road to the right. The second semi was to the left, The third semi with the coil was immediately on my left and I had a pickup coming up behind me on the on ramp. The only way out was to stop to let gravity and momentum take everything past me. If I sped up, I would have been boxed in and crushed for sure.

When I hit the brakes and stopped the pickup behind me stopped with plenty of room to spare. He then tried to come around on my right at about at walking speed. I just got in front of him waving at him to hold back. This was less than 5mph at this point. I agree it may have not been the wisest thing to do. I didn't cut him off at 40+mph, sorry, I should have clairified that part.

There are little bits of the LT you can see in the videos. I'm standing behind it at one point and sitting on it in another shot. You can barely see the right side of it with the 4 ways flashing, I'm right behind the coil. Where you see me is where I stopped.

As for what caused the first truck to lockup its brakes, I'm not sure. There are three on-ramps within 2/10ths of a mile, one on the left side of the highway, two on the right. I think it was someone merging in from the left on-ramp, running out of road to merge. I was on the on-ramp on the right side of the highway. My boss didn't see what made him jump on the brakes either. The Red Mountain Expressway (hwy 31) comes out just ahead of where this happened. There is also an off-ramp immediately after Red Mountain Expressway on-ramp. It can get rather crazy at times in that area with the fight to merge on and off 20/59.

My head was on the swivel and I was making spit second risk assesments and delt with the parameters I was presented. Keep in mind, the coil has already broken loose and it is coming off the trailer.

1) Stop as fast as I could to get the coil in front of me before it came off the trailer. 45,000 lbs @ 30mph at best can anyone do the math on the force at impact? I did not have room to pass, my forward escape was blocked.

2) Risk of getting hit from behind. (been tagged twice in 21 years of riding) body work of the LT would take some of the impact.

3) Risk getting bumped by the pickup that tried to come around me attempting to same his life.

4) Risk of laying the bike down, had all my gear on ready to slide if necessary, wearing my Arai helmet.

5) Ready to jump off the LT and run if the coil decided to roll back towards me. (I was downhill from it)

6) Risk getting hit by the semi itself, if I held my position, in an attempt to pull off the highway as fast as he could .

7) Risk: I'm heavily insured, vehicles can be replaced, just minimize personal injury.

As tight as the situation was, I must have made the right decisions because I am still here and the guy in the pickup is still here and no one was hurt or had their vehicles damaged except the semi carrying the coil.

There must have been a group of gardian angles working together that day.

Transporting these coils is a world wide problem. Shipping and Rail industries have made special cradles to hold them in place. Some special trucks are used in Germany to haul these things around. Its time for someone to come up with a better way to transport them by truck. Most of the coils that have come off trucks nationally, happen here in Downtown Birmingham.

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David,

We could "Monday morning quarterback" your moves from now 'till the cows come home, but the basics remain:

- Your training and practice paid off
- Wearing your gear gave you additional "outs" if needed
- You (and your LT) came out ok
- You may have saved a life in the process.

I call that definitely one for the WIN column.

Some might say that the guardian angels were not only watching you that day, but also worked through you.

Happy to hear the happy ending.

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YOU ROCK MAN!

Guess we never know what the next ten minutes will bring!

At the Cleveland show at the BMW booth they were running a video on the performance of the ABS braking system on the LT.

There was a parking lot demo with oil & soapy detergent-soaked straw spread over a wide area. There was another bike w/o ABS that had a special outrigger system (adult training wheels) that was used to demonstrate what happens when you try and brake a different speeds under emergency conditions. When the brakes were hit at speeds starting at ~20 mph the non ABS equipped bile would go down, twisting on the outriggers without throwing the rider or ditching the bike.

When it came time for the LT, all speeds up to (if I remember, 50+ mpg) made a safe, upright stop on the slippery surface of the tarmac. Many of the standersby said, "gotta get those brakes on my bike!"

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I look forward to getting back on the LT as soon as possible. Considering adding an 07 GT to the stable in August.

Thanks for the words of encouragement.
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David, Thanks for sharing the news! Glad that everything turned out OK and you reinforced my K1200 LT decision. Another thing to also be aware of are the lumber trucks. Those loads are shifting all of the time. Trusses, logs 2X4's, all over the highway.

Whenever I see one up ahead, cage or bike, I'm out of there. Worse than the "falling rocks" in the mountains up North in WV.

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WOW!!! Can you imagine if you had left the office two minutes earlier? Most people do not pay attention to the traffic beside them, just in front. Good job and glad you are OK.

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David,

First of all I just want to say I'm glad you made it through and potentially saved another life in the process.

Second, thanks for reminding us that 18 wheelers can be deadly. I usually wait until there's a clear path past one so I don't end up riding along side. This is a strong reminder to get past those beasts. I had one lose one of the tire treads ahead of me. If I would have been just a few seconds further down the road that tread could have taken a limb or my head off.

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Almost Crushed by a 45,000lb coil on Monday.

Glad you're OK. It's amazing to me how often loads are not properly secured by drivers. 45K of load is nothing to mess around with!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Yea,

I don't normally play the lottery, but I do have some numbers in mind.

BTW, another truck flipped over dropping 2 steel coils this morning on I-20 eastbound between 459 and the Barber Motorsports Park exit. No one hurt, and happy I wasn't any where near it.

2 in 7 days, scary.
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At 68 I'm not so sure I could have survived that one even with my 2005 LT. Sobering.
Of course you would have, Niel. Your years and years of riding experience would have weighed mightily in your favor!

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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My wife is a native of Birmingham and told me last year that Alabama was trying to get a law passed that heavy rolls/coils of steel must ride on a "Low Boy" trailer in lieu of the normal flatbed trailer. I can only assume this has to do with lowering the center of gravity and such.

She has related to me that this is becoming a too familiar incident in the state of Alabama from what she has read and that is the reason for the State Lawmakers taking an interest in this.

I came through the intersection where I-20/59 has the exit for I-65 north one evening last June and the traffic was stopped for road repairs. What they were repairing is where one of those rolls of steel had came off a truck.

From your report and from my Co-rider/bride tells me, there is a real problem with this.

Thank your lucky stars, a competent motorcycle, good training, and the good Lord that you were not injured.

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Crestwood330:

My wife is a native of Birmingham and told me last year that Alabama was trying to get a law passed that heavy rolls/coils of steel must ride on a "Low Boy" trailer in lieu of the normal flatbed trailer. I can only assume this has to do with lowering the center of gravity and such.

She has related to me that this is becoming a too familiar incident in the state of Alabama from what she has read and that is the reason for the State Lawmakers taking an interest in this.

I came through the intersection where I-20/59 has the exit for I-65 north one evening last June and the traffic was stopped for road repairs. What they were repairing is where one of those rolls of steel had came off a truck.

From your report and from my Co-rider/bride tells me, there is a real problem with this.

Thank your lucky stars, a competent motorcycle, good training, and the good Lord that you were not injured.

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I think it sucks that we have to legislate some good common sense for the trucking industry. It's not like we don't have enough BS laws on the books already!

Having worked a number of truck involved T/C's over the last 17 years, I have seen several drivers nut up.

I noticed that the conscientious drivers secure their loads with triple and quadruple redundancy. An awkward load, like a large steel coil, weighing 45k pounds might have two chains and two webb straps securing it. If one or even two fail, there is still two securing it.

Do we have any professional trucks drivers to chime in here?

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I drove for a rigging company years ago and have hauled some irregular shaped loads. I know from experience that you can chock, tie down and chain any type of load safely. It just takes time, thought and most of all the desire to do the job right.

Once again, though, time and money take over where common sense and caring for the safety of others should have prevailed. If these coils are coming off trucks regularly, then jail time should be in order for the driver (if an independent) or the company (if company owned). That would turn the light on for these careless dimwits!

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I drove for a rigging company years ago and have hauled some irregular shaped loads. I know from experience that you can chock, tie down and chain any type of load safely. It just takes time, thought and most of all the desire to do the job right.

Once again, though, time and money take over where common sense and caring for the safety of others should have prevailed. If these coils are coming off trucks regularly, then jail time should be in order for the driver (if an independent) or the company (if company owned). That would turn the light on for these careless dimwits!
Absolutely! Here here! How about billing the driver/company for all the wasted public resources just because he got careless.

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