you wrote to Rick:
Originally Posted by bruce2000ltc
You did your job because you were paid to do it, period. And since your post script says you miss it you aren't doing it for free either.
Funny you should bring up floods and hurricanes. A lot of us people you complain about got up off our sofas and went to New Orleans to help for free. At the same time the local cops deserted their posts and fled the city.
To group all private citizens as weak and uncaring is as bad as saying all police officers are bad because of a few rouge cops.
First off, it's rogue cops, unless you mean they are colored red...
...particularly humorous when you read what you posted to me about comprehension...
Well let's see Pete,
In the title of his post he writes "How come everyone knows so much??" He then writes: "If it was one thing that never failed to amaze me was just how many people knew every aspect of how I should be doing my job. They knew how I should treat people, they knew when I should arrest someone, or give them a ticket and oh so many people knew exactly when I should chase someone."
The only part where he refers to pulling someone over for breaking the law is when he writes "or give them a ticket".
I suggest you re-read his post. Maybe this time you'll comprehend it.
And, I'm not throwing shit at anyone....I'm just tossing it back.
We can go mano a mano all day on reading comprehension (but I wager my Masters in Adult and Continuing Education and post-grad studies in Education are gonna' come out on top in this one). I'll ALSO bet that you are the ONLY
one who read his original post and interpreted that to mean he was (your words) "(grouping) all private citizens as weak and uncaring."
Tell y'all what (I'm working on my Texan, too), I think I can summarize this messy-ass thread and put it to rest:
1. It SUCKS worse than a Bill Clinton intern that a police officer died
2. It ALSO sucks that in today's America, the "Justice System" is neither fair, nor just, and that depending on who you are, how much money you have, how skilled a team of defense attorneys you can hire, and the "spin" that can be put on one's case, equal punishment is quite often NOT dished out for equal crime (OJ Simpson, Jankowski or whatever his name is, every drunk driver who kills someone, countless examples)
3. Yes, there are some asshole cops on the streets today, and unfortunately people remember the unprofessional actions of a poorly-trained, poorly-supervised, or just plain "shouldn't be a cop" cop much longer and much more vividly than the one that is helpful.
4. There are also some asshole teachers, and waitresses, and dentists, and muffler installers, and garbagemen, and POLTICIANS, and computer engineers, and college professors, and technical support telephone operators as well
5. There are also some wonderful cops (and firemen, and soldiers, and EMTs, and nurses, etc.) who felt a calling to their professions, who have taken abuse that others could never imagine, put their lives on the line every week, and many have paid the ultimate sacrifice...I wonder how many servicemen and women died today in Afghanistan and Iraq and Kosovo and... by the way
6. People who steal other people's motorcycles are giant, full-blown assholes, and in a perfect world, would be shot in the face.
7. If not shot in the face, at least knee-capped
8. Ok, shot in the face. Twice. Three times if you have extra ammo.
9. There is ENORMOUS disparity in pursuit policy...as an example, last month in the Dallas area there was a pickup truck being driven at high speed and chased by three local agency pursuit vehicles, all of whom happily backed off when the Texas Department of Public Safety showed up...because they don't play bullshit "chase for three hours" games, and as expected, quickly had a Trooper leaning out of the window SHOOTING OUT ALL FOUR TIRES. Which is why people don't run from the cops in Texas.
pursuit can result in loss of life...to the Police, to those pursued, and to the innocent...and although we're all supposed to stop immediately when lights and sirens are rolling, sometimes people don't (because they don't hear/see it, or whatever reason). Any time this happens, it's a tragedy.
11. No one who posted said that the guy who stole someone else's motorcycle and then evaded police shouldn't be punished. The issue of contention that has ignited some ill feelings and misdirected "pro/anti-police" discussion seems to be misplaced frustration with the lack of consistency in the American criminal justice system.
12. I don't think anyone here would say the guy shouldn't be punished, and in reality, I don't think anyone here would make the statement that his actions had nothing to do with the Sgt's death. The bike thief is a piece of shit...I think the misplaced frustration in this thread is that others have gotten LESSER sentences, not that he shouldn't have gotten 45 + 5 years.
13. We are all "above" prejudicial grouping and stereotyping (except for Dutch-Surnamed guys in Dallas--they are all assholes), so let's back off the "all cops suck" or "all _____ are _________" stuff. Or, as a friend puts it, "Why stereotype someone based solely on their race or creed or religion or other grouping, when if you spend enough time, you can surely find something to dislike about the person on the individual level."
There, let's all take a breath, especially me, relax knowing that our bikes won't get stolen by this shitbag for 45 + 5 ....oh wait a minute, make that 4.5 to 5 years...american justice system again...and bitch about something worth bitching about...for most of us tomorrow is Monday and we have to go to work again.
Pete Van Dyke who lives in Dallas (see 13 above)