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Motorcycle Pile-up!!!! What the Heck???

I live in North Carolina, USA and today I heard sketchy news about an 8 bike "pile-up" in my state. Has anyone heard anything about it??? By the way, while searching the net for information, I found this...WOW!!!...Check it out...a LOT more than 8 bikes.... Here's the link:

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/988/
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This is old news from last year. It happend in South America.

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Yea..I figured it was old...

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This is old news from last year. It happend in South America.

...But, I was amazed at the photos...CRAZY stuff. Obviously going to fast. Looks like they were cresting a hill when traffic was stopped

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I am going to a toy run this coming Saturday, and inevitably there will be lots of Harleys ridden by middle-agers with little experience. This is a big social thing and we are grateful for all the riders as they donate toys and money (entry fees). The flip side is that we'll have a massive amount of bikes, with riders of different experience levels, and there are ALWAYS incidents ranging from minor fender benders to more catastrophic collisions despite the police and CHP escorts.
Last "Downed Officers" ride I attended was no exception.
I learned to stay behind and leave enough room for evasive action, and hopefully the rider(s) behind me will do the same.
It seems that when people gather in a large crowd they tend to forget common sense, and sometimes adrenaline takes the best of people...
During our ride to Fort Bragg the group was broken into smaller and uneven sizes, based on type of ride desired and preference to ride alone or with a group (ride your own ride). This translated into everyone reaching destination.
On the other hand massive rides are a potential for a pile-up so be careful out there during your next toy run.

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I went to a bike blessing last year with about 200-300 other motorcycles. It amazed me that people have no clue how to ride in a group. Slowing down suddenly, changing positions in their lane without warning... basically riding as if they were riding alone. Frankly, I'm surprised you don'e see alot more of this kind of accident. I'm never riding in a group like that again.

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I went to a bike blessing last year with about 200-300 other motorcycles. It amazed me that people have no clue how to ride in a group. Slowing down suddenly, changing positions in their lane without warning... basically riding as if they were riding alone. Frankly, I'm surprised you don'e see alot more of this kind of accident. I'm never riding in a group like that again.
My last large group ride (Ronald McDonald run with over 6,000 bikes) started with a large accident on the entrance ramp to the highway which was closed to all other traffic. Some inexperienced rider tried to take the ramp on the inside a bit too quickly, scraped a peg, panicked and straightened the bike up. He went diagonally across the ramp, taking out about 15 bikes with him in the ensuing pileup.

My "group rides" now consist of riding with a small group of people that I know, and we all know each other's riding habits. Of course, now that I have the BMW with GPS, I usually end up getting elected "Road Captain" so nobody gets lost. :-)

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I am going to a toy run this coming Saturday, and inevitably there will be lots of Harleys ridden by middle-agers with little experience. This is a big social thing and we are grateful for all the riders as they donate toys and money (entry fees). The flip side is that we'll have a massive amount of bikes, with riders of different experience levels, and there are ALWAYS incidents ranging from minor fender benders to more catastrophic collisions despite the police and CHP escorts.
Last "Downed Officers" ride I attended was no exception.
I learned to stay behind and leave enough room for evasive action, and hopefully the rider(s) behind me will do the same.
It seems that when people gather in a large crowd they tend to forget common sense, and sometimes adrenaline takes the best of people...
During our ride to Fort Bragg the group was broken into smaller and uneven sizes, based on type of ride desired and preference to ride alone or with a group (ride your own ride). This translated into everyone reaching destination.
On the other hand massive rides are a potential for a pile-up so be careful out there during your next toy run.
Just did a Toys for Kids event this morning, sponsored by a local HD dealer and escorted by Ohio State Higway Patrol (way cool... no stops, the OSHP kept other traffic away from us, etc.). Last week's event was 53 bikes; this had to be 200+ bikes. Way too many guys slamming on the brakes and then gunning it to catch up. When I insisted on keeping a two-second interval between me and the guy in front I got passed. Twice.

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There was one BMW rider there though...

Look at the series though...

One guy, full gear, pops up and in two shots within the series gives the baseball umpire "saaaaaaaaaafeeeeeee" handsignals.

(yeah, he's probably trying to "warn" others to stop before they get into the accident, but I like to think he/she had a sense of humor instead...it's what I would have done)

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So, you're saying the blessings did not have the desired effect?
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This is old news from last year. It happend in South America.

I think it was in Russia. But it could have been South America.


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My last large group ride (Ronald McDonald run with over 6,000 bikes) started with a large accident on the entrance ramp to the highway which was closed to all other traffic. Some inexperienced rider tried to take the ramp on the inside a bit too quickly, scraped a peg, panicked and straightened the bike up. He went diagonally across the ramp, taking out about 15 bikes with him in the ensuing pileup.
Last summer my wife and I were going somewhere in our car. Five or six cruisers were behind us. In my rearview mirror I watched one guy almost drop his bike at a stoplight. (This is not good.) We pulled onto a four-lane street and I let the cruisers pass me. Up ahead was a 25 mph curve. I knew they were going too fast to make the curve so I said to my wife, “Watch this!” Sure enough, the rider – who had almost dropped his bike – took the curve too fast, scraped a peg, straightened up and cut across my lane. He ran over a curb and rode his bike through an abandoned service station. What a hoot!! His feet were flailing about and he was bouncing up and down on the seat. Goodness knows why he didn’t crash. (God takes care of children and dummies.) His friends stopped in the middle of the street and gave their best slack jawed looks.

And that, my friends, is why I avoid riding in groups. Someone is going to mess up.
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I live in North Carolina, USA and today I heard sketchy news about an 8 bike "pile-up" in my state. Has anyone heard anything about it??? By the way, while searching the net for information, I found this...WOW!!!...Check it out...a LOT more than 8 bikes.... Here's the link:

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/988/
My Father-in-law mentioned that to me too. The one in NC. Apparently on US64 somewhere. Not sure any other details. Here it is - just found it

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/ne.../27/crash.html

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/515123.html

Still no detailis of the crash itself or type of bikes.

If you goto google news and search "motorcycle crash", you will get a bunch of recent reports. Kinda depressing.

I had folks wanting me to ride this weekend in the nice weather, but we had so much family stuff, no chance. Did get to tak my son to a college football game. GO APPS!!! App State rolling towards second nat'l champ!!! Now, back to our previous subject...

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When I insisted on keeping a two-second interval between me and the guy in front I got passed. Twice.
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I've never ridden with another bike, other than being passed in traffic or something like that. I thought about joining a local "poker run" for charity a month or so ago, but I was afraid I don't have enough experience to get into something like that. I'd hate to be the one who started something, so I guess I'll stick to 'riding my own ride."
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Most times, by the end of a poker run or whatever, I find myself wishing I'd given them $20 and ridden my own ride... I like riding with one or two others, at most. more than that and it just starts to be less fun asa the numbers go up. Too many people with too many different riding styles.

Most fun guys I've ridden with is the local CMA chapter. They took me in as a newbie and took care of me on their group rides.

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Most times, by the end of a poker run or whatever, I find myself wishing I'd given them $20 and ridden my own ride... I like riding with one or two others, at most. more than that and it just starts to be less fun as the numbers go up. Too many people with too many different riding styles...
I've come to that conclusion as well, after doing 3 of these things in the past few weeks. Yesterday's was "special" because of the State Patrol escort. That was cool, but I didn't care for the expansion-contraction of a line of 200+ bikes.

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I just about got piled up on my way back to work. A blue minivan signalled, turned right. They were completely off the street I was on. THEN they decided to NOT turn and just sorta came back my way. Dammit, I never think to blow the horn, as good as it is. I swerved over to left part of lane and hammered it in second and went on. Not sure who is worse, the drivers or the riders.

Back to subject. Escorts are nice, but they still can stop the accordion effect. I like being around other motorcyclists, but riding with them is often more hassle than it's worth.

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A "Blessing" is one thing...

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So, you're saying the blessings did not have the desired effect?

...but human stupidity is another. Even God, while not compromising His sovereignty, does not always override the human will...hence, motorcyclists, (even BMW riders), make mistakes and act stupid. Blessing or not!

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So, you're saying the blessings did not have the desired effect?
You don't think "Nobody got killed" is a blessing?

We have to learn to recognize God's works and His blessing when we witness them.
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So, you're saying the blessings did not have the desired effect?
I'm still walking and talking so I guess it worked for me but for some of these people it is only by the grace of GOD that they'll survive. Personally, I don't plan on being around them when GOD finally does turn his back on them.

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Personally, I don't plan on being around them when GOD finally does turn his back on them.
Interesting theology you got going there. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Here is a Russian one.

http://www.gkko.com/videos/3446/motorcycle-pile-up

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Wow Dave....

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That is crazy! And to think that it was caught on VIDEO!!! Always makes me nervous to ride in a crowd. We gotta be CAREFUL!

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