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post #1 of 7 Old Oct 24th, 2006, 7:22 pm Thread Starter
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Right to work on my motorcycle?

I guess this proposal has been around for a while, but this is the first time I have heard about it.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp

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post #2 of 7 Old Oct 25th, 2006, 11:19 am
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Good cause. However, there's no stopping the manufacturer from pricing the diagnostic equipment out of the reach of the average consumer or independant shop. I believe that's pretty much the case today anyway.

BTW, here is a more direct link to the page: Support Your Right to Repair Your Motorcycle!

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post #3 of 7 Old Oct 25th, 2006, 11:26 am
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It is the same with cars. If you want to buy the BMW diagnostic system for cars, which is a laptop, software, and a diagnostic head, it is about $14,000!!!! Then you have to try and get the software updates, which will be difficult to impossible.

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I guess this proposal has been around for a while, but this is the first time I have heard about it.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp
I first put it out at the Pro Nationals in 2003
Handed out 5000 flyers about all the EPA BS
Everyone sits on their ass until it effects them then it is to late.
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post #5 of 7 Old Oct 25th, 2006, 1:25 pm
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If only motorcycles were OBD-II compliant. (sigh) Then any generic OBD scan tool would work, at least to give you the basic information.

I'd be happy with a basic I/O chart for each pin on the Motronics. With that, and a decent DVOM, just about anything could be diagnosed, although not as quickly as with a scan tool.

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If only motorcycles were OBD-II compliant. (sigh) Then any generic OBD scan tool would work, at least to give you the basic information.

I'd be happy with a basic I/O chart for each pin on the Motronics. With that, and a decent DVOM, just about anything could be diagnosed, although not as quickly as with a scan tool.
I'm glad there are those of you out there who know what that stuff is.

Personally, I was thinking the EPROMs should be re-encoded with hypoallergenic anticorrosive defibrillators. That way, they would work better with the flux capacitor. Not to mention the framistator...

Now, where does the gasoline go... again?

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Having this software available cheaply for all of us to use simply won't happen unless there are drastic changes throughout the industry. Why do you think we have to pay such exorbitant prices for service? BMW and all the other companies charge the dealers huge money to be "in the loop" and have all that fancy diagnostic equipment updated on a regular basis. When I was a service manager for a not-to-be-named company, I was totally shocked at how much money we had to pay out for the "mandatory equipment" in the shop. It was totally outrageous. And, guess who really paid for all of it? Every single customer that came through the dealership. Make no mistake, BMW and the rest gouge the dealers who then have no choice but to gouge you and I when we are forced to use their service departments.

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