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Parking it for winter

My Brother-in-law has told me that when we puts his Goldwings (82,06) away for the winter he completely drains the engine oil and leaves them empty until next riding season.
Has anyone heard of this or is doing this ?
I always drain and put new oil in before parking for winter. Sounds to me if you did this you many get some water condensation in the sump and possibly rust.
Told him he was nuts.

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Bring engine to operating temp, drain oil, change filter and re-fill with new, fresh oil. Run for a bit to bring 'er up to temp again.

If fuel will be left for more'n about 25 days, Sta-Bil added.

I'd be aware of coolant condition too - just ensure it's fresh enough to have effective protection.

Center stand and a jack stand with woden block to take weight off tires.

Something to care for the battery.

Store it that way.

But, even here on the High Plains of the Rocky Mnt region - there're days when the roads are dry enough to ride durring winter. I keep 'er ready to go and get out no less than once every 20 days or so.

No way I'd ever drain it and leave it empty. Any IC engine, not just my LT.

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Bring engine to operating temp, drain oil, change filter and re-fill with new, fresh oil. Run for a bit to bring 'er up to temp again.

If fuel will be left for more'n about 25 days, Sta-Bil added.

I'd be aware of coolant condition too - just ensure it's fresh enough to have effective protection.

Center stand and a jack stand with woden block to take weight off tires.

Something to care for the battery.

Store it that way.

But, even here on the High Plains of the Rocky Mnt region - there're days when the roads are dry enough to ride durring winter. I keep 'er ready to go and get out no less than once every 20 days or so.

No way I'd ever drain it and leave it empty. Any IC engine, not just my LT.
I do all of the above also Zotter, But Brother-in-Law said Honda states to leave the oil out for winter storage.
I find that hard to believe but never owned a Goldwing (not fat enough yet, but working on it.)

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Told him he was nuts.
That is a good call. Leave the oil in, or change it, but don't listen to your brorter in-law.
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Change the oil, sta-bils for the fuel and tender for the battery.
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Bring engine to operating temp, drain oil, change filter and re-fill with new, fresh oil. Run for a bit to bring 'er up to temp again.

If fuel will be left for more'n about 25 days, Sta-Bil added.

I'd be aware of coolant condition too - just ensure it's fresh enough to have effective protection.

Center stand and a jack stand with woden block to take weight off tires.

Something to care for the battery.

Store it that way.
Here's an easier and wiser solution.
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Come on now... there's at least a few days out of the year out here where it's not wise to ride... not sure if that's long enough to consider winterizing the old LT but it couldn't hurt....

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My Brother-in-law has told me that when we puts his Goldwings (82,06) away for the winter he completely drains the engine oil and leaves them empty until next riding season.
Has anyone heard of this or is doing this ?
I always drain and put new oil in before parking for winter. Sounds to me if you did this you many get some water condensation in the sump and possibly rust.
Told him he was nuts.
Right on, Rich! Why keep your machines in a non-rideable state?

Add some Marvel Mystery Oil, some Sta'bil, and a trickle charger, and your ready to start 'er up at any time.

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Bring engine to operating temp, drain oil, change filter and re-fill with new, fresh oil. Run for a bit to bring 'er up to temp again.

If fuel will be left for more'n about 25 days, Sta-Bil added.

I'd be aware of coolant condition too - just ensure it's fresh enough to have effective protection.

Center stand and a jack stand with woden block to take weight off tires.

Something to care for the battery.

Store it that way.

But, even here on the High Plains of the Rocky Mnt region - there're days when the roads are dry enough to ride durring winter. I keep 'er ready to go and get out no less than once every 20 days or so.

No way I'd ever drain it and leave it empty. Any IC engine, not just my LT.
yup , I've seen to many inside rust jobs on parked engines and trannys' it does not take much to get bare metal to rust

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My Brother-in-law has told me that when we puts his Goldwings (82,06) away for the winter he completely drains the engine oil and leaves them empty until next riding season.
Has anyone heard of this or is doing this ?
I always drain and put new oil in before parking for winter. Sounds to me if you did this you many get some water condensation in the sump and possibly rust.
Told him he was nuts.

you are correct, thing is it does not even need "condensation" to rust the inside of the trans or engine , all it needs is air there is enough humidity in air for it to rust bare wore metal in no time

seen to many engines and trans damages from sitting

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Come on now... there's at least a few days out of the year out here where it's not wise to ride... not sure if that's long enough to consider winterizing the old LT but it couldn't hurt....
Yes! I think it rained on at least several days last winter....

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As a professional auto tech for, well, let's just say I remember when "emissions control" meant cleaning out a road draft tube, I would NEVER leave an engine with no oil in it. Fresh oil for winter storage every time. I've seen too many rusty crankshafts and rods, and more than once, someone who had drained all the oil forgot to add it before that first ride of the season - not pretty.

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He better hope his dry oil pump will prime..........
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yet another problem

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He better hope his dry oil pump will prime..........
Did not even think about that Yikes
Got get him to change his mind, but he said that is what honda recommends I think he is miss under standing the instructions.

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Not only do I recommend leaving it IN, but changing it as well. You don't want any of those nasty acids eating away engine parts during hibernation.
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BTW boys and girls, are you aware that synthetic oil does NOT stick to the upper areas of the final gear, or tranny, so if you're putting it away for a while, and don't want any rust, use dino oil for the winter oil change, and I think that in itself is why Bro in law and/or Honda is Wrong
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