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post #1 of 22 Old Oct 16th, 2006, 7:58 am Thread Starter
 
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This makes the Dragon seem tame

A relitive in the UK sent me these pictures of a mountain road in Bolivia - don't know where he got them. They are spectacular.
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post #2 of 22 Old Oct 16th, 2006, 9:25 am
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Holy Cr... We should not complain about pot holes I guess.
Here is post of two local Cinti BMW club members who are off on Mexico trip:

Forget what I said about riding the worst possible road for motorcycling. We have uncovered a new standard. The unpaved 65km road to Batopilas has it all, rocks, ruts, wash-outs, blind curves, no guard rails and drop offs that make an old pro pucker. And it is one lane, and is the only road that services this little village. If you meet a vehicke coming the other way somebody has to back up to a wide place. We did it in an old rattly Nissan pickup, but several people (guys and gals) made the trip on 2 wheels. They also have daily bus service with an orange school bus, if you can imagine that.
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Thats the Dealth Road out of La Paz, do a google seach if you wish to learn more.

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You setting up a ride??

Putting together a trip for that I'm in!
And I bet that would bring old #13 out of retirement.
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Here's one of my favorites in the good 'ol USA in Utah.

Did it last spring with the LT, Mom, the poodle and 300 lb. trailer. Only did it downhill, the LT would never make it going up hill without burning out the clutch:

Those pictures in Bolivia give me the shakes just thinking about it!
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Thats the Dealth Road out of La Paz, do a google seach if you wish to learn more.
"The road has received the name rather recently, in December, 1999 when the car with 8 Israeli tourists has fallen in a precipice. But it is not the loudest accident on this route. On July, 24th, 1983 the bus with more than hundred passengers fell into canyon - for today this most terrible road accident for all history of Bolivia. Local residents if they should go through Death road, pray to reach alive. If something happens, the way up to the nearest hospital will take several hours."


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Comparing this to The Dragon isn't fair - Deal's Gap is twisty, but it's paved. Instead, compare to the "Oh-My-God" road near Denver, which is also unpaved ... and it makes "Oh-My-God" look tame. Wow! Just caught a show about Death Road in Bolivia on one of the TV travel channels.

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That is Nuts!

You'd have to sedate me to even ride in a vehicle on that road. Reminds me of the upper half of the road to the top of Mt. Washington, NH, which we unsuccessfully tried a few years ago. Didn't have the fortitude to continue when I saw Oh My God curve ahead. Turned around (!) and went back down the mountain.

I suppose if you traveled that Bolivian road all the time you'd get used to it.

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You'd have to sedate me to even ride in a vehicle on that road. .
Sedated? I'd have to be unconscious.

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I suppose if you traveled that Bolivian road all the time you'd get used to it.
I'd get used to it if I was in the back of a hearse.

That is insanity gone wrong. They prolly paid some company to put the road in, they absconded with most the funds and this is the result.



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Sedated? I'd have to be unconscious.



I'd get used to it if I was in the back of a hearse.

That is insanity gone wrong. They prolly paid some company to put the road in, they absconded with most the funds and this is the result.
Pretty sure I would have to run it a couple times both ways,
before I tried it on drugs
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I have to share this with you. In 1971 I hitchhiked from Mexico down through Central America and all the way down to the bottom of South America and back up again. I traveled to La Paz and then hitchhiked and walked across the bottom of Lake Titicaca until I came to a village on the west side and caught a rickety old bus with people, chickens and pigs. The seats were made of plywood. As we started to ascend to an even higher elevation over the Andes it turned dark and I kept waiting for the bus driver to pull over and wait until light broke because when we started to descend, that's when I barely saw the "road" below in the dark. I just about squirted an entire bolivian meal out of my rather grungy levi's. To top this off it started to snow! We actually traveled several miles on this road until the driver pulled over, got out and went into a shack and fell asleep. The rest of us wrapped ourselves in anything we had to stay warm. In the morning I woke up and I almost had a heart attack! I had only a faint idea the kind of road I was on as it had turned dark and what I saw made me want to call for "mommy". When I actually saw this thing at the butt crack of dawn, I can honestly say I've never been more scared in my life; and I spent a tour in Vietnam!
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I don't know what brown acid is, but when I look at your avatar all I can think is "I shouldn't have eaten the whole sheet!" .

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I don't know what brown acid is, but when I look at your avatar all I can think is "I shouldn't have eaten the whole sheet!" .
I think that's a vague reference to Woodstock? But... I really can't remember that far back.


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I believe that the National Geographic Channel or it might of been the Travel Channel that had a 1-Hr. program on the road the other day. If you go to either of their web sites you might find the vid of the program.

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History Channel on "The Death Road"

The history channel has a documentary on La Paz to Caranavi. The death road. The grade is up to 14% and in places only 10 feet wide and over 15,500 feet above sea level. Some of you are on the right track of the drug use of some of the drivers, this is the heart of the Coca leaf production area and cocoa leaf is legal to be transported in this area. DEA and Bolivian para's operate here mitigating cocaine production in the area. Local drivers chew the leaves as a stimulant. I've flown the area before, never been on the road. I have seen bicycles, motorcycles , large trucks, and animal herds running the road. The toughest stretch is called the corners of death.

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The history channel has a documentary on La Paz to Caranavi. The death road...
I saw the History Channel's episode last night. "Wow. Holy cow. No way. You're kidding... right?" were my responses.

I might walk a "road" (that term is used loosely) like that but I don't see myself riding/driving it.

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[RonKMiller]Here's one of my favorites in the good 'ol USA in Utah.

Did it last spring with the LT, Mom, the poodle and 300 lb. trailer. Only did it downhill, the LT would never make it going up hill without burning out the clutch:]]


I've done that road. With a street legal dune buggy some years back. As I recall you head for the road through a tree lined straight paved road. Then suddenly you see a sign warning of ending pavement and curves. I almost didn't slow down. If you miss the first curve you win the race to the bottom.

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A relitive in the UK sent me these pictures of a mountain road in Bolivia - don't know where he got them. They are spectacular.
Great shots. Thanks for sharing. Good reason to NOT go there.

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[QUOTE=fas]Great shots. Thanks for sharing. Good reason to NOT go there.

FYI,

My father and I did this one last spring.
It can be done in two hours.

Jeff----I think the highway 191 we want to tour on is from Clifton, AZ to Alpine AZ----this road is in eastern AZ and is about 90 miles in distance----it is the curviest road in the united States----435 hairpin curves----takes about 4 hours to go 90 miles---click on the link below for more info----DAD


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