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Question Bosch Oil Filter Number for our LT's

If you have the BOSCH oil filter number used for our LT's please post as my local auto parts dealer has a BOGO (Buy One Get one Free) offer on Bosch filters and they do not list motorcycle filters in their catalog..

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Apparently the Bosch number is 72161 - good deal at two-for-one!!!!


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Thanks Steve.... I assume you read that off one of your Bosch LT Filters?

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That is the correct number.
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So much for a good deal - The auto parts place has no 72161 on hand and will not honor bogo deal with ordering.

** I've done some searching online on the oil filter agenda and came up with some interesting spots including the BMWOA forum where the riders comment about the good quality and suitability of using the Walmart
SuperTech ST3614 filter as a replacement for the OEM filter as it fits all oil heads and K models .

Here is the importer that makes BMW filters if interested with staying with OEM filters at a reduced price. I know that locally the BMW filters are costing me $18.66 ea.

http://www.eurotechmotorsports.com./...=11%2033%20845

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My concern is that their oil filter is painted on the outside, an issue since on the LT the filter is immerged in oil. If the paint peels it will clog oil passages on the engine with disastrous results. The BMW stock filter is not painted on the outside. (hint)
Is saving a couple of bucks worth the risk?
You think about it and make an educated decision now that you have a little more facts on hand.

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A 3614 filter has the same base size where the oil gasket meets the flange, The female threads are the same size. The filter is about 60% as big as an OEM filter.

Any chemical engineers out there to make a comment on what oil does to the paint on an oil filter? I have never seen paint failure on an exterior mounted filter. The oil temperature reaches 275-300f in many engines.
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Or better yet...
From our friends at beemerboneyard:
http://beemerboneyard.com/11421460845s.html


New in the box Bosch premium oil filter to fit all K-bikes (except K1200S), includes crush washer for the drain plug.

BB11421460845SK $9.50

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$4.13 each for Bosch 72161

At this link they are $4.13 each. I have never purchased from them yet, but probably will give them a try when I run out.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/cata...1&a=FR23-72161

I just did some research and found out this same filter fits my Toyota Tundra (2002 V8). Makes it even nicer ordering by quantity and saving on the shipping.


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KB, Now thats a deal !!

Zippy: *You have a point there about the "What if" paint coming off, It would make sense but ** Has anything ever come to light about the paint ever coming off a filter inside an LT & doing any harm to any engine at any time ever attributed to that?

I just looked at my NIB OEM filter and while the whole of the filter is not painted, *It does have what I assume is paint writing all over the outside marking the BMW icon and several lines of white letters and numbers...
So, Some paint is ok then? I have neve seen the Bosch filter and assume it has coloring of some type on it?

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Any chemical engineers out there to make a comment on what oil does to the paint on an oil filter? I have never seen paint failure on an exterior mounted filter. The oil temperature reaches 275-300f in many engines.
On the LT the filter is mounted internally, hence the recommendation NOT to use a painted filter.

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Yes Ron, that is a great deal!

Don't forget to get the O ring and the crush washer if they are not bundled with the filter. (sometimes sold separately)

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On the LT the filter is mounted internally, hence the recommendation NOT to use a painted filter.
Gilles, I hate to argue with you here, but there are many of us using both the Bosch and ****** filters, both of which are painted, and have yet to have a filter loose the painted on coating. In the case of the ****** filters, they have a guarantee that if anything happens they will pay for the repairs. I've been using them for the past 2 years and will continue to do so.

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Steve, you are probably right as Amsoil and Bosch are quality brand names. Maybe it is a comfort level but I would not risk an engine seizure to save a few bucks, especially since not all brands of filters are created equal.

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o rings

for those that use the Amsoil filters....Do the filters come with the necessary o rings that are needed for the oil change, if not where is the best place to get them. There are no local BMW dealers. I am almost to my 18000 mile oil change on my 2000 K1200LTC. The 24K service was done when I got the bike at Milwaukee BMW. So all I should need is the oil change.

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for those that use the Amsoil filters....Do the filters come with the necessary o rings that are needed for the oil change, if not where is the best place to get them. There are no local BMW dealers. I am almost to my 18000 mile oil change on my 2000 K1200LTC. The 24K service was done when I got the bike at Milwaukee BMW. So all I should need is the oil change.

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Hi, Jim - AMSOIL doesn't provide O-rings for the filter cover plate, nor any crush washers that are needed in any of the fluid changes. You can order them from Chicago BMW and get a 20% discount, plus shipped to your door. Might take 'em abit to get them to you. Either that, or take a ride to your closest dealer which is where ..... ??

If you need one soon, I could mail ya one of the large 'O' rings, and a crush washer if you drain using the drain plug (I don't use the drain plug - just the filter cover plate to drain with). Lemme know.
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We don't need no stinkin crush washers !!!

I was taught not to even fuss with the oil drain plug when it is time to change the motor oil @ our LT Tech Day. All the oil comes out when you undo the oil filter cover and filter.... :^)

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O Rings / crush washers

I am about 400 miles away from 18K, so I have time to order them. Was just planning ahead. Nearest dealer is in Mpls/St.Paul area, not far.
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WIX oil filters

I have been using WIX 51348's for my 2000 LT over the past 2 years. The paint does not come off and there is only the slightest discoloration on the surface of the filter. Re-filling the crankcase has been a real job till I manufactured my own "free standing" oil funnel. I have yet to figure out how to post a photo on this site. I would like to see what anyone else has come up with to make oil changing easier.
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I have been using WIX 51348's for my 2000 LT over the past 2 years. The paint does not come off and there is only the slightest discoloration on the surface of the filter. Re-filling the crankcase has been a real job till I manufactured my own "free standing" oil funnel. I have yet to figure out how to post a photo on this site. I would like to see what anyone else has come up with to make oil changing easier.

Here is my system...see attachment. The funnel came form WalMart, the hose from the local hardware store. I made the helmet holder pin that the funnel is hanging from with hardware from the local hardware store.

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Nice setup. Where do you get the mirror hole chrome thingy? I remember a long time ago some discussion about those working for hanging helmets. Thanks.
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Byron,

That was actually a Goldwing Helmet holder that I modified to fit the mirror hole on my 2000 LT. I made a better setup on the 2003 using a socket head bolt coming up from below....bushings on top of that ....and a chrome acorn nut last. I am at wotk and can't take a picture, but will try later. Just slide the d-ring of the helmet over it and rest the helmet on the grip. It sure saves the looks of an expensive helmet.


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"It sure saves the looks of an expensive helmet."

Ron,

You are so right. I hung my expensive helmet recently from the right rider's footpeg, later forgot it was there and righted the bike only to find a couple of scratches on the top of my helmet. Thanks for the good idea.
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Thanks Ron ....

I was using a flexible funnel I purchased from the local auto-parts store. Kept getting oil all over my pants, the bike and the floor. Finally got pissed off enough that I woke up one morning at 4am, marched out into the garage and began welding up my own funnel. This is my last attempt to post a photo.

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why not use the paper funnels provided by BMW???? Quick, easy cleanup and cheap. you guys make it way to complicated.


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why not use the paper funnels provided by BMW???? Quick, easy cleanup and cheap. you guys make it way to complicated.


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Paper funnels? Aaaah can you say, "ooooooops". Did not know there existed a paper funnel.
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I was using a flexible funnel I purchased from the local auto-parts store. Kept getting oil all over my pants, the bike and the floor. Finally got pissed off enough that I woke up one morning at 4am, marched out into the garage and began welding up my own funnel. This is my last attempt to post a photo.


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