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Reality safety check

Every now and then, I like to post something that may be helpful for my fellow riders. Sometimes it is a reminder to listen to the leetle voice that we all zone into. Other times it is to watch out for horned rats!!! Still, other times, I like to recommend experienced rider courses.

Sooooo, it is about time to remind everyone how dangerous our lives really are.
Check this somewhat graphic site:

http://www.ride2die.com/

Only posting this as a leetle reminder that we all must be aware every second out there!!

Ride safe, folks!!!
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Every now and then, I like to post something that may be helpful for my fellow riders. Sometimes it is a reminder to listen to the leetle voice that we all zone into. Other times it is to watch out for horned rats!!! Still, other times, I like to recommend experienced rider courses.

Sooooo, it is about time to remind everyone how dangerous our lives really are.
Check this somewhat graphic site:

http://www.ride2die.com/

Only posting this as a leetle reminder that we all must be aware every second out there!!

Ride safe, folks!!!
here is something to seriously look at

www.bikershut.net/mc_ins.htm

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IMHO, a safety 'reality check' would be better served by starting a thread with tips, techniques and practices any rider can use to avoid becoming part of the carnage....rather than a bunch of gruesome jpegs strewn across a webpage. Yeah - there were a few instances where the root cause of the accident was mentioned, but never any mention of how the motorcyclist might have avoided it. So what good is it? And the needless showing of bodies after they've been literally ripped apart is pretty gratuitous IMHO.

Would any of you show this website to your pillions - whether they be your SO or your kids?
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IMHO, a safety 'reality check' would be better served by starting a thread with tips, techniques and practices any rider can use to avoid becoming part of the carnage....rather than a bunch of gruesome jpegs strewn across a webpage. Yeah - there were a few instances where the root cause of the accident was mentioned, but never any mention of how the motorcyclist might have avoided it. So what good is it? And the needless showing of bodies after they've been literally ripped apart is pretty gratuitous IMHO.
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Guess I must be the village idiot. I just don't see the point. Everyday, hundreds of people die in their auto's, also.

I don't need thousands of death stories to figure out that people can't drive worth a shit!

The other day, I was at the pediatrician's office. He had a sign on the wall decrying how many children are killed by guns each day in the U.S.

Don't get me started....

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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realigy.......

I find that site (ridetodie) is quite distasteful..

I have seen people who die in their home or hospital beds.... does that make me want to quit sleeping... no.

Life is dangerous. The only way out alive is by the Second Coming.

One way to license folks is by "capability", in steps like aviation.

Impede bad drivers from using automobiles... it is technically feasible.

Cell phone use should be vigorously addressed.

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IMHO, a safety 'reality check' would be better served by starting a thread with tips, techniques and practices any rider can use to avoid becoming part of the carnage....rather than a bunch of gruesome jpegs strewn across a webpage. Yeah - there were a few instances where the root cause of the accident was mentioned, but never any mention of how the motorcyclist might have avoided it. So what good is it?
your observation is spot on,

thing is very very few will actually practice what they learn, very few riders that take a basic (now BRC) MSF course go on for further training or even will take the time to go someplace to practice what they learned during the BRC

I have always had the opinion that most MC accidents could have been avoided by the rider, if they practice, muscle control is a learned activity, it becomes a natural reaction.

I think a thread or perhaps a Forum just for rider safety is a good Idea, years back I had a mailing list I set up one for new riders and experienced riders so the new could ask the old questions, it was a flop. no interest.

what I found is that (particularly in Hd circles) is that everyone tends to be "macho" even people who plainly can not ride think they can Or will not admit they can't. the main reason i hated seeing the riders edge or MSF taught at a HD dealership. but trust me it is not limited to the HD crowd.

a forum might be great to help those with that attitude or for the ones that are just embarrassed they can't ride well.

they or everyone could could view all the posts from time to time and pick up advice

the issue I see is it would be hard to keep a forum like that under control and/or organized

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your observation is spot on,

thing is very very few will actually practice what they learn, very few riders that take a basic (now BRC) MSF course go on for further training or even will take the time to go someplace to practice what they learned during the BRC

I have always had the opinion that most MC accidents could have been avoided by the rider, if they practice, muscle control is a learned activity, it becomes a natural reaction.

I think a thread or perhaps a Forum just for rider safety is a good Idea, years back I had a mailing list I set up one for new riders and experienced riders so the new could ask the old questions, it was a flop. no interest.

what I found is that (particularly in Hd circles) is that everyone tends to be "macho" even people who plainly can not ride think they can Or will not admit they can't. the main reason i hated seeing the riders edge or MSF taught at a HD dealership. but trust me it is not limited to the HD crowd.

a forum might be great to help those with that attitude or for the ones that are just embarrassed they can't ride well.

they or everyone could could view all the posts from time to time and pick up advice

the issue I see is it would be hard to keep a forum like that under control and/or organized

Tom

Got that right, Tom!

Nobody likes the "boring" part of motorcycling...the safety part. How many folks did you and I have in Daytona for the MSF? Not nearly enough.

But it was a great experience!

I would love a forum. All of us experienced riders have a lot to share and if saved just one it would be worth it!

Sadly, only gory sites like the one posted seem to get attention. And usually from the anti-motorcycle crowd.
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Boy, If I showed this to the SO she would want to hide the keys to the bike!


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Every now and then, I like to post something that may be helpful for my fellow riders. Sometimes it is a reminder to listen to the leetle voice that we all zone into. Other times it is to watch out for horned rats!!! Still, other times, I like to recommend experienced rider courses.

Sooooo, it is about time to remind everyone how dangerous our lives really are.
Check this somewhat graphic site:

http://www.ride2die.com/

Only posting this as a leetle reminder that we all must be aware every second out there!!

Ride safe, folks!!!

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Got that right, Tom!

Nobody likes the "boring" part of motorcycling...the safety part. How many folks did you and I have in Daytona for the MSF? Not nearly enough.

But it was a great experience!

I would love a forum. All of us experienced riders have a lot to share and if saved just one it would be worth it!

Sadly, only gory sites like the one posted seem to get attention. And usually from the anti-motorcycle crowd.

it filled the class though! , we only had one outsider and he was pretty neat. that poor bike looked lonely though, 9 lt's on RT and some crusier wasn't it? i lost the pics on my laptop

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Boy, If I showed this to the SO she would want to hide the keys to the bike!
I showed it to mine than she upped my Life insurance policy!



just kidding, i havn't looked at it myself, seen enough blood IRL on the road

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it filled the class though! , we only had one outsider and he was pretty neat. that poor bike looked lonely though, 9 lt's on RT and some crusier wasn't it? i lost the pics on my laptop

Hey! I got some pix and I know the Dragon does...want 'em?
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Hey! I got some pix and I know the Dragon does...want 'em?
got the line up with the RT in the middle?

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