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I think the K1200LT has been copied

Victory Motorcycles ... of which I am a fan and owner ... Owners have been waiting for a BAGGER / DRESSER from them since 2000 ... Well it looks like 2008 will be the year. The NEW INCREDIBLE REVOLUTIONARY VICTORY TOURING CRUISER/DRESSER ... Concept drawing ...



Naturally I had to give my Vic Brethren some SH!T...

That's a K1200LT RIPOFF if I ever saw one ... right down to the ROTO TILLER handlebars.

I told em I already had one then said Victory will have a big uphill battle selling that seeing as how the UBER TOURER is already on the market.

That didn't go over too well

Victory does make a great bike though .... here's my Custom Kingpin before I put on a custom seat.

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post #2 of 22 Old Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:22 pm
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Victory does make a great bike though .... here's my Custom Kingpin before I put on a custom seat.
I've purposely stayed out of Victory dealerships, cuz I want one, butt can't afford two bikes in the barn! And I've managed to stay away from Victory owners too! And I don't go to their websites! And I want one (oops, repetition - sorry ). And no one around here has one. And .....

Your Kingpin looks great.
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Lightbulb copy?

At least they are headed in the right direction....
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I've purposely stayed out of Victory dealerships, cuz I want one, butt can't afford two bikes in the barn! And I've managed to stay away from Victory owners too! And I don't go to their websites! And I want one (oops, repetition - sorry ). And no one around here has one. And .....

Your Kingpin looks great.
HAA!!

Thanks ... It is a great bike for short/moderate distance. Very powerful and reliable , bulletproof motor and handle GREAT for a cruiser with the inverteds.

I give my Harley buddies the stuff all the time with it. Most have really grown to love it but are of course stuck in a major rut. Me I like to be different.

Here's a couple more shots of her for fun

I removed the front fender to chop it and took some pics ..




They've been talking about building a dresser for 4 years now

I'm glad I didn't wait.

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Water cool, gimmie 140hp and that bad boy would be in my garage. Hope they tweek the "NEW" 1200LT design some. I like the styling of the Victory. Hope it comes on the market.

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Personally, I don't see it. I don't see the LT in there at all. Unless I squint real hard, close one eye and turn my laptop upside-down.

I will own an '8-Ball' someday though. Black and aluminum...and NO CHROME! Yea baby! I was impressed with the test-ride too.
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I have always wanted a V-twin, but like the fully faired tourers.
This is the only American bike I would ever consider!!

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The front fender might look a little bit like it, but other than that I really don't see the LT in there anywhere.
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I'm a fan of Victory's styling; their stuff just flows. I've test ridden a Hammer twice now. Handled well for what it is and fits me like a glove. It's much more comfortable than any other "feet forward" bike I've been on.

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If the new Victory handles like the LT I'll trade mine in on one... No throttle cable problems; no rear drive problems; no clutch-slave cylinder problems; no transmission problems; no canisterectomy to do; gee... Maybe I'll spend more time riding rather than removing tupperware.

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Looks a little more Gold Wing to me. It'll be interesting to see what the final product looks like, and how it rides.

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Looks a little more Gold Wing to me. It'll be interesting to see what the final product looks like, and how it rides.
I was thinking more ST1300 . . . but, same manufacturer.
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Maybe I'll spend more time riding rather than removing tupperware.
Yet another reason why I bought a GT.
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If the new Victory handles like the LT I'll trade mine in on one... No throttle cable problems; no rear drive problems; no clutch-slave cylinder problems; no transmission problems; no canisterectomy to do; gee... Maybe I'll spend more time riding rather than removing tupperware.
Judging by the raked-out forks, it'll handle like any other cruizer: like a log on shopping trolley casters.

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Hi Tiff: I can dream... Was looking for something different (other than a Harley or Gold Wing) for comfortable touring so went with the LT. Victory does not yet have a touring model yet or I'd consider one.

Joe - If the GT is as comfortable as the LT I may consider the GT at a later date. Good choice.

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Water cool, gimmie 140hp and that bad boy would be in my garage. Hope they tweek the "NEW" 1200LT design some. I like the styling of the Victory. Hope it comes on the market.
Word is it's guranteed to be coming ... it's main competitors being the GW and the K12LT
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WOW!!!
I have always wanted a V-twin, but like the fully faired tourers.
This is the only American bike I would ever consider!!
You would not be disappointed either .

My Kingpin has a built motor 104hp and 120 torque at the rear wheel.

She's been bullet proof , without a single mechanical problem in 10,000 miles.

It does however have one severe problem ... it eats rear tires for some reason.
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Looks a little more Gold Wing to me. It'll be interesting to see what the final product looks like, and how it rides.
It is a cross between the two ... but I see K1200LT in the windshiel , bars , fron frnder , lower faring , the side wings covering the engine guards , tank (Even looks like there's a stingray type clamshell comparment) and the rear seat grab handles area.

To be sure they stole styling cues from both.

Word is the rear top case will be removable like on our LT's
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Judging by the raked-out forks, it'll handle like any other cruizer: like a log on shopping trolley casters.
Actually ... Victory's are known for their handling among other things.

It's not as raked out as you might think , they really did a great job on the steering geometry. My Kingpin can easily keep up with my LT in the turns , though I admit the LT feels a little easier in them.

The front Marzoochi inverted forks they use ARE top notch and have one advantage over the LT ... absolutely no tank slap at that 40mph range or anywhere else.
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I went to my local Victory dealer today to see if he had a price for one. This is a concept bike Victory will build. There are four proto types of the new bike on his board. This is concept "D" that is featured. The general public will decide which proto type will be built.

300 dealers in North America. 600 mile intial maintence, and you don't go back to the shop until 60,000 miles, just change the oil every 3500 miles, tires and brakes as needed. Made in America.
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Here's the article...

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Articl...D=3569&Page=1#

And if Victory can't come up with more than 85 hp (100 hp if you get a stage-2 kit) and a better suspension than they already use, it will just be another overweight pig taking up space on the road.







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Hi Tiff: I can dream... Was looking for something different (other than a Harley or Gold Wing) for comfortable touring so went with the LT. Victory does not yet have a touring model yet or I'd consider one.

Joe - If the GT is as comfortable as the LT I may consider the GT at a later date. Good choice.
Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt it would be a very good bike. Victory is really doing things right. If I were to accidentaly get knocked on the head and suddenly think I wanted a cruizer, Victory would be about the only choice for me.

I was just commenting on the percieved "similarity" to our beloved LT. And yes, the rake is an obvious cure for the wobblies.

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