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post #1 of 16 Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 2:05 pm Thread Starter
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HOT weather riding...

I moved to Texas from Chicago in January and am now beginning to enjoy (?) constant 95+degree days that go on and on and on and on...

I missed out on the ztechnik windshield order because I wasn't part of the website in time, so for now I keep the OEM windshield.

Question to the experts here, I've been riding (naturally) with the windshield in the "fully down" position most of the time the last couple weeks, switched to a shoei X-11 helmet for better ventillation, and am wondering about something. BELOW the mirrors are rotatable wind deflectors for cold weather use that direct airflow away from the rider's body. ABOVE the mirrors and next to but just behind the windscreen are non-adjustable small wind deflectors.

Has anyone ever removed those to increase warm-weather airflow to the rider? If so, is it a one- or two-screw procedure? And does it make a difference?

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post #2 of 16 Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 3:35 pm
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Hi Pete and welcome to the Republic of Texas. I don't know about removing the little wings on top of the instrument group but good air flow behind the wind screen will only go so far. My other ride is a @004 T100 with no screen and I can get overheated in no time in the Houston Summers if I wear a normal vented jacket. I bought a Vanson Vent Max 3 for my wife and myself which helps a bunch in keeping cool. That and a Camel Back with ice and water under the vent max will make it all worth while. And, look at it this way, where else can you look forward to riding in the rain?

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Hey Pete,

Welcome to Texas...did you get your Red River Visa?

You don't really want to take those wings off, because they block a wrap around wind that beats you to death. Kind of like not having a shield at all. Besides more ventilation is only going to do so much. Get yourself some Under Armor Heat Gear, or a cool vest from one of the various makers. I swear by the Under Armor for our Texas Weather. The Heat Gear is great for when it's hot and the Cool Gear really keeps you warm in the winter (not that what we have here is anything like what your used to as far as winter goes).

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Smile Welcome to Texas, Howdy

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It takes a while for northerners to get use to the warm weather, but then you do get to ride year round here. I really like my cool-vest that I got at Moto-Liberty for when it gets hot in August and early September.

I second the under armour heat gear.

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thanks much

appreciate the advice...

BTW, for those who choked on the price of the Joe Rocket Sahara cooling vests, Helmet Harbor pointed me in the direction of Fieldsheer's version, which is identical except comes in black (why the hell would you do that?) and a semi-reflective silver (the one I have coming to me next week) that is fully half the price, and can be found on Ebay (the model name is the Ice Berg vest, if you order from Helmet Harbor, ask for Jeff, he's great, if you EBay it, type in "fieldsheer vest" and you'll see 'em for $34.99).

I did see another option on Ebay that looked a lot like the first generation "bullet proof" kevlar vests I wore as a cop that had pockets throughout in which you would insert those blue ice freezer packs you'd use for picnic coolers, but between the notion of making my upper body into a 450-pound freezer pop, and the mental image of "what if I had an accident, and all of the blue ice things all burst, and the road looked like a gigantic blueberry had been squished?"--I decided against it.

Hey...if anyone got in on the ztechnik windshield deal and was smart enough to order an extra, or decided after the fact they don't like it, drop me a line...

Until then, I'm gonna' try soaking an entire alpinestars ridingsuit in water and then hanging it in my upright freezer for the commute to work...


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No one is making fun of you, I don't think as a southerner I could ever get use to riding a motorcycle in cold weather, I turn on the grip heaters when it's anything below 60. 6 months more and you should be a naturalized Texan, and you'll quit telling everyone you just moved here, and asking how we cope with the heat.

Stop by the Blue Goose on Tuesday sometime, or I usually go to the Two Wheeled Texans (www.twtex.com) Meet & Greet on Thursdays. I'll buy you a drink.

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I am from Alabama, the land of 90% humidity and 95+ degree days already this summer............

Mesh jacket and pants.

I took a standard BMW shield and cut the top down to 19 inches--5 inches off the top. Then I cut 1.5 inches off each side vertically. Tried to keep the overall shape, just make it smaller. Used a jig saw with a 36 " or so tooth to the inch metal cutting blade. Sanded the finished product. I now have air to the mid chest at full down and a top approx 1 inch below eye level in full up. Somewhere in between these 2 extremes by wife and I usually ride with reasonable air, decent quality sound through the helmet speakers for both stereo and intercom.

Those measurments may not work for you. I am 6' tall and have a 31 inch inseam. I also ride with a 1.5 inch sheepskin wraped gel pad which lets cooling air under my butt and raises me up some. I ride in the low seat position.

Hope these ideas help. Hint-- the narrower windscreen is more important that the height as it allows air from each side to get into your jacket sleaves and shoulder vents. Good luck. If you try to customize a shield. Take your time and plan to cut it down a little at a time. You can always cut more. You cannot put any back! Don't bother to sand until you are satisfied with the ride quality. Use masking tape on both sides of shield where you will cut. It provides a place to mark you lines and it will help reduce splintering.

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I've got a real nice BMW OEM Euro shield for sale over in classifieds at a great price.

1 year old. No scratches, swirls or fogging. No distortion. There are a several extremely small surface nicks less than 1mm in size that you really have to look for. A 9 out of 10.

New is $217.00, sell for $100.00 plus shipping. E-mail me at
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You'll get LOTS more airflow - the only downside to it is above 85mph the turbulence is more noticeable.


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Talking hot weather riding - - -Solution ???

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No one is making fun of you, I don't think as a southerner I could ever get use to riding a motorcycle in cold weather, I turn on the grip heaters when it's anything below 60. 6 months more and you should be a naturalized Texan, and you'll quit telling everyone you just moved here, and asking how we cope with the heat.

Stop by the Blue Goose on Tuesday sometime, or I usually go to the Two Wheeled Texans (www.twtex.com) Meet & Greet on Thursdays. I'll buy you a drink.
I must be a yankee for sure, I get to warm when temps go above 60!!! A perfect riding day to me is 40-60 and sunny!

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"We've come a long way baby!" The days of dunking my leather jacket in a tire bubble tank at service stations are looong gone... First, there are practically no "service stations".. but I digress..

Keeping your cool is possbile.. There are "cool suits" made for "hostile environments"...

http://www.hightechscience.org/orlan_cooling_suit.htm

or... http://www.fastcooling.com/Test/pers...a223pmc_24.htm

http://www.sdms.co.uk/Search/PDFs/Se125.PDF

http://www.saferacer.com/prosecosusy.html

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I must be a yankee for sure, I get to warm when temps go above 60!!! A perfect riding day to me is 40-60 and sunny!
Well, maybe 40-70.

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"We've come a long way baby!" The days of dunking my leather jacket in a tire bubble tank at service stations are looong gone... First, there are practically no "service stations".. but I digress..

Keeping your cool is possbile.. There are "cool suits" made for "hostile environments"...

http://www.hightechscience.org/orlan_cooling_suit.htm

or... http://www.fastcooling.com/Test/pers...a223pmc_24.htm

http://www.sdms.co.uk/Search/PDFs/Se125.PDF

http://www.saferacer.com/prosecosusy.html
Wait until you check out what we're building for a tenth of the cost.... here's a sneak preview:
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ok.. whutizit? A new fabric design to transport fluid or just air channels?

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ok.. whutizit? A new fabric design to transport fluid or just air channels?

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Both.

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You can still get a Z-Technik windshield; you just missed out on the discounted group buy. But it is a bit larger/wider than stock, and is designed to channel more air away from the rider.

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