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post #1 of 10 Old Jun 24th, 2006, 9:34 pm Thread Starter
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A tale of a newbie on an HD

My brother in law decides to motorcycle up for the day for a visit. He bought himself a HD Dyna something or other a while back. He is not the most mechanical guy in the world but he is reasonably smart. When he arrives he tells a tale of oil lights coming on and metallic noises. When he had started out in the morning he had only gone a short distance when the oil light lit up. He pulled over and checked and there wasn't even any oil on the dipstick. He finds a convenience store and goes in and finds some oil marked synthetic and puts in a quart. The stick was still showing the need for more. So he pours in more from a second bottle but not all and calls it good. Continues the ride and arrives at my place where he relates the story. I tell him he is lucky and probably didn't do any damage as the engine sounded fine when he pulled up. We spend the day shooting the breeze and early afternoon he starts for home. I ask if he is going to check the oil and pull the dipstick for him. It indicates it still needs a quart! So now he pulls out what is left of the quart of synthetic he had bought and shows it to me. It's Synthetic ATF!! He had just seen the synthetic and figured it was the right stuff not even checking the weight of the oil or nuthin else. I asked him how much oil his engine took. He didn't know. (turns out 3 qts) I didn't have any oil on hand so he gently limped 12.5 miles to the closest station and got some real engine oil and made it home. So the moral of this cautionary tale is if you are going to ride, no matter what your motivation, learn everything you can about your bike. It could save you big bucks on the road. And check your oil before every ride. And the tire pressure. And clean underwear and.....
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I don't get it... Did he buy a used bike with no oil in it?? or did he just never put oil in his bike??? I've owned 4 Harley's since 99 and have never had one that burned or leaked oil.
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I don't get it... Did he buy a used bike with no oil in it?? or did he just never put oil in his bike??? I've owned 4 Harley's since 99 and have never had one that burned or leaked oil.
He bought this one brand new. Had it serviced at 500 miles and had never checked the oil since. He has never owned a big bike before and only ridden much smaller ones several years ago.
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Unhappy no grease

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I bought 2 new flhtci (90 &99) and no I mean bone dry grease in the stearing neck...
this also happend to my brother-in-law in Phx on his new 2004 FLH

and there were grease zerts installed at the factory... hmmm

you may want to check yours..

always checking oil before any ride was mandatory

still is if you ask me...

Rookie mistake glad it did not cost him a motor..
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Won't have to worry long for your friend. At that rate he'll trash the motor and won't be riding anymore.

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Well being it was serviced for the 500 mile I would bet on a drain and no refill myself.

Or he has a misaligned oil pump and is sumping in the crank and is churning oil into butter. Which will retain as much as 40 oz I have been told.

The ATF probably mixed with oil from the crank case a bit. All in all I would not want that motor now. Still breaking in and no telling what he did to the rings/pistons/cylinder, let alone HD'S notorious cam bearings. If it was running hot and the rings and the piston lands got micro-welded, the piston/rings/and the jugs need replaced and the jugs honed or + bored if they are scored.

And also he should need 3.5 qt with a filter on that 500 mile service (Screwing) he received. The guy they got changing oil drained it, spun a new filter on, and never filed it with oil. My money rides on this as my few experiences with HD service over 10 years proved that many times. And the guy doing oil changes in a busy shop, is not always the brightest Crayon in the box.

Sorry to hear his woes on a new bike.

Pre ride inspection is critical to ones good health, and the bikes longevity.

I am old school and always warm my bike, and this was on air cooled. I ride all winter here in Pensatucky, 10-40W winter Strait 50 or 60W in the summer.

I let my LT warm up too. I then do a pre ride looking, and sometimes yanking on stuff, and a visual for leaks, look over rotors and break pads, check lighting and whatever.
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pre-flight fright beats flight-fright... but the pre-flight lasts longer...

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....When he arrives he tells a tale of oil lights coming on and metallic noises....
Ouch! Wonder how much that engine will cost him?

Reminds me of a little F**K up years ago when I was just a young lad. I had just bought my first lawn mower, and changed the oil. Refilled it with "engine lube!" I was wondering why sparks were flying out the muzzler. DUH! If brains were dynamite....

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech!
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Yeap, have to check the oil and any fluids regularly. This will save you lots of money. My 05 LT took about a cup of oil over 5000klms (3000 miles) That is more than my 84 venture with 100,000 Klms (60,000 miles) ever used.

All engines will go through a bit of oil. Some more than others. Does not mean there is a problem. That is what keeps them cool. As long as you are not leaving a blue cloud behind you.

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pre-flight fright beats flight-fright... but the pre-flight lasts longer...
HAHAHAH OMG... THAT is a good one!

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