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post #1 of 19 Old May 16th, 2009, 10:03 pm Thread Starter
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ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

Time for a battery for the '06 LT. I've been looking at the specs from BMW and see that the battery is suppose to be 12v 19ah. Besides the overpriced BMW battery (175$ seems typical) the Odyssey PC680 and the Westsco 12v20h batteries seem like the two top choices for the bike.

The only thing that bothers me is that the Odyssey is rated for 18ah vs 20ah for the Westco. Both are AGM and the Westco is about 20-30 dollars less expensive. On the surface it seems like an easy choice, except for all the good write ups for the Odyssey on the BMWLT site. I've have not seen anything on the Westco.

Anyone out there have an opinion on 18ah vs 20ah for the battery, and Odyssey vs Westco batteries?
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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

I had an Odyssey on my LT and took the stock battery out of the '07 GT and put in an Odyssey.Tis a good battery that lasts a long time, though you'll still need to tender it because of the parasitic draw of the LT.



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The Odyssey is a really top quality battery, and the Westco may be also. I only have experience with the Odyssey, but they are both AGM, which I like much better than a GEL battery.

18AH vs 20AH is only important if you have need for current draw for an extended period with the engine not running, or very long cranking periods, rarely if ever an issue with the LT. They both have about the same cold cranking amperage, the AH rating only specifies how long the battery will support that amperage before reaching a low charge state.


For instance, given a 6 amp draw with no alternator input, the 18AH battery will last for 3 hours, the 20AH one for 3 hours 20 minutes. I cannot envision a real advantage on the LT for the greater AH rating, other than having the radio/CD player running for a long time at a camping area.

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That's an interesting point. My concern is the capacity of the battery to run the hydro-electric center stand. My OEM battery is still starting the bike without an issue. However the center stand is being an issue, it won't deploy correctly unless I'm bring the engine up to about 2K RPM to generate enough power to run the center stand.
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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

I have the Odyssey and it seems to work just fine but if left unattended for a period of time the battery will become dead. I have only had it approx. 2 years so I can not attest to its longevity but I believe it is better than OEM.
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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

Sorry that I am a little late on this, but I prefer the Westco. It seems to "spin" my motor faster than the Odyssey.

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Hi folks,
First I wanted to thank everyone for their input, it was valuable to me. I ended up putting the Westco 12v20p battery which I got via the mail from the BeemerBoneYard. I put the new battery on a Tender for 24 hrs before installing it. It was a perfect fit, and I really decided to hate the Torx bolts, what a pain, even with the correct tools. Anyway, the bike fired right up, and the center stand started working again! I didn't mention that the center stand stopped working as I didn't think it was battery related, I just thought it was a failing hydro-electric stand.

Well, in a year or so, I'll post a follow-up to this to let you all know how it works out. I'm off to Americade, so perhaps I'll see you up there or on the road.
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Which charger

Hi..
New question here..It all seems very confusing with me; gel and charger..etc.

If I go with one of the westsco, which charger do I need? Can someone please point me to the right direction? as I don't have a charger..

Also, I'm confused. Is the LT an canbus system? Then do I have to worry about how to charge the battery once its in? Will the westsco overcharge? Do I need to disconnect it from the main terminal each time I want to charge it, or is this an easy plug / play into the front socket?

Finally; As my current bmw gel is now dead, am I facing any challenges to replace it with the Westsco?

Thanks!

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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

The LT is not can't bus. So don't by a canbus charger.
Lead/acid batteries can be charged with the older style battery tender or bmw chargers or the newer style gel chargers. Gel batteries should not be charged with the older style lead/acid battery chargers because the Gel batteries need a rest period during the charge cycle according excide battery manufacturer.

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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

After milking it as long as I could my bike finally failed to start over the weekend. So I turned to the forum, and got a little confused...

The Odyssey seems like a nice battery but the Westco seems significantly cheaper at BeemerBoneYard. Also, at their site, they say "can be charged with a standard battery tender or any other motorcycle battery charger."

My readings seem to show that you have to have a specific charger for the Odyssey? Is that right?

That would be enough to push me into the Westco purchase by itself.

Anyone want to take issue with BeemerBoneYard's claim about the charger?

(I'm so confused.)

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After milking it as long as I could my bike finally failed to start over the weekend. So I turned to the forum, and got a little confused...

The Odyssey seems like a nice battery but the Westco seems significantly cheaper at BeemerBoneYard. Also, at their site, they say "can be charged with a standard battery tender or any other motorcycle battery charger."

My readings seem to show that you have to have a specific charger for the Odyssey? Is that right?

That would be enough to push me into the Westco purchase by itself.

Anyone want to take issue with BeemerBoneYard's claim about the charger?

(I'm so confused.)
Both the Odyssey and the Westco are AGM batteries. Any 12vdc charger will technically do. BUT, I would only use a three stage charger myself. They do not over charge your battery. Most good chargers are 3 stage. The important part is the last stage or float charge.

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After milking it as long as I could my bike finally failed to start over the weekend. So I turned to the forum, and got a little confused...

The Odyssey seems like a nice battery but the Westco seems significantly cheaper at BeemerBoneYard. Also, at their site, they say "can be charged with a standard battery tender or any other motorcycle battery charger."

My readings seem to show that you have to have a specific charger for the Odyssey? Is that right?

That would be enough to push me into the Westco purchase by itself.

Anyone want to take issue with BeemerBoneYard's claim about the charger?

(I'm so confused.)
I've owned a Deltran Battery Tender Plus for the last 9 or 10 years, and it has faithfully charged the following batteries: OEM lead-acid, Odyssey, Westco AGMs, and is now keeping a Panasonic battery up to snuff. I'm thinking of trying the other battery on the linked page, if/when the Panasonic gives up. If you buy the Panasonic online, it used to be that the seller offered a discount. Check around their website to see if it's still policy. Good luck.
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(Went with BeemerBoneYard and bought the Westco.)

I too have had a Deltran for many, many years and I attribute the months of "turned over slowly after work, re-charged overnight, didn't buy a new battery" to its use.

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Has anyone out there tried or know about the Powerstar PS680 from Diversified Battery available online for about $39 bucks. Claims to to a clone of the Oddysey.
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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

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After milking it as long as I could my bike finally failed to start over the weekend. So I turned to the forum, and got a little confused...

The Odyssey seems like a nice battery but the Westco seems significantly cheaper at BeemerBoneYard. Also, at their site, they say "can be charged with a standard battery tender or any other motorcycle battery charger."

My readings seem to show that you have to have a specific charger for the Odyssey? Is that right?

That would be enough to push me into the Westco purchase by itself.

Anyone want to take issue with BeemerBoneYard's claim about the charger?

(I'm so confused.)
The Deltran Battery Tender Jr will maintain the Odyssey or any other AGM just fine. A battery tender is not intended to charge a battery...any battery.
If an AGM battery needs to be charged, adhere to the charging schedule defined by the manufacturer. Odyssey keeps a list of approved chargers on the website. Of course, the best charger is the charging system on your bike. Just keep riding it!

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Never used a Odyssey but I put in a Powerstar PS680 this last spring and it is doing fine, no issues. It is always on a charger. The terminals were different and the battery was a bit shorter than the BMW gel it replaced.
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I've owned a Deltran Battery Tender Plus for the last 9 or 10 years, and it has faithfully charged the following batteries: OEM lead-acid, Odyssey, Westco AGMs, and is now keeping a Panasonic battery up to snuff. I'm thinking of trying the other battery on the linked page, if/when the Panasonic gives up. If you buy the Panasonic online, it used to be that the seller offered a discount. Check around their website to see if it's still policy. Good luck.


The West-Co & the Panasonic are the same battery basically. The West-Co. is made by panasonic.

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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

I find myself with a battery that won't hold a charge and I saw that Hyperpreformance Parts out of Austin, TX has the BikeMaster® Yumicron Battery (Part#: 78-1133) which is a Yuasa 51913 for a little over $60. Anyone have any experience with this battery or this company?
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Re: ODYSSEY vs WESTSCO

I purchased an odyssey 3, 4 years ago, totaled the "Beerburner" last July, pulled the battery, gave it to a friend, he is still using it!

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