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post #1 of 12 Old Nov 3rd, 2013, 9:05 pm Thread Starter
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Bike wont start

I need some assistance,
I was out and about today and made a few stops. My last stop was at my mums.
Pulled up, killed the engine with the kill switch, lowered the side stand, waited 20 seconds and lowered it onto the side stand. Turned off ignition. Same process as I had been doing throughout the morning.

45 minutes later I returned to bike, went to fire it up and it would not start.

It cranked but would not fire. The fuel pump kicked in and seemed to function properly. Checked the reverse switch. Tried the side stand. It worked when lowered and in gear. The kill switch seemed to be working.

It just sounded like it was getting no spark. As if a kill switch was not resetting.

Could it be the side stand switch not resetting in the up position?

Your assistance and thoughts would be appreciated.

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Re: Bike wont start

if it is cranking but no start it is fuel or spark, my guess would be
hose on fuel filter has come off ?? also rev/ side stand switches are not the cause if it is cranking, I dont have an alarm it could be that I dont know alarm symptoms

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the fuel is easy to check remove filler cap turn ign on use a torch if you see the petrol moving in the tank, thats the prob

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Re: Bike wont start

Linton,
I have thought that it may be the pipes in the tank. One thought though was that if it were the loose pipe, the fuel pump would run continuously trying to prime the system. Mine primes and then stops.
Am I wrong in my thoughts?

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if the pump cuts out it would suggest it is ok, you really need to work out why it wont start before you can go any further. make sure you check all the fuses under the passenger seat with a test light, if ok then pull a plug lead off and ground it or use an old plug in the lead (grounded) to check for spark as you crank the motor, if you have spark then it must be fuel related.

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Re: Bike wont start

My '05 exhibited those symptoms once after being ridden into my garage and stopped as normal. A short time later I went to start the bike, cranked as normal but would not fire up. In the end, after checking everything obvious (as you have done), I tried cranking with wide open throttle and the engine fired up. Didn't understand it then and it has never happened since (2 years ago +/-). In the old days we would have said the engine was flooded, but I never smelled fuel at any stage. Dunno whether this is of any help, maybe try it.

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Re: Bike wont start

The fuel pump will not continue to run with a cracked or disconnected hose. The initial pump run is on a timer circuit and will repeat each time the ignition is switched on. Once the engine starts then the pump receives constant power.


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Re: Bike wont start

Hi all,
Update, it was the fuel line in the tank. It had popped off the filter.

Dean, you answered one of my queries on the pump running, thankyou.

I also used a video from Kirk from Illinois to understand the job ahead of me. It actually was quite easy, just required a lot of stripping down and reassembly.

Thanks to all who commented or provided guidance. What a great helpful bunch you all are.

Total cost of fix = Aus$1.00 for the 2 hose clamps.

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Good to hear Brian, I was wondering how you got on.....

BTW, its pretty common to just kill the engine when parking while in 1st gear by just kicking down the sidestand. I never use the kill switch (unless bike is dropped and still running).
Always fuel up by leaving in 1st, stop at the bowser, put down side stand, roll backwards slightly to takeup slack. I'd hate her to take a nap while fueling....

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Re: Bike wont start

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Hi all,
Update, it was the fuel line in the tank. It had popped off the filter.

Dean, you answered one of my queries on the pump running, thankyou.

I also used a video from Kirk from Illinois to understand the job ahead of me. It actually was quite easy, just required a lot of stripping down and reassembly.

Thanks to all who commented or provided guidance. What a great helpful bunch you all are.

Total cost of fix = Aus$1.00 for the 2 hose clamps.

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Re: Bike wont start

The funny thing is, that once you have done it a number of times, you know all the screw locations and the best technique to get it done. A power screwdriver speeds things up. To the end that it is just minutes to remove the lot.
I felt that the job today, fixing the fuel hose, was in no way stressful nor technical. Just required a working knowledge of the bike with some help from our forum friends.

Having said that, I would rather be riding than fixing and not all fixes for a BMW cost Aus$1.00.

My next project will be the break lines. New territory.

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Re: Bike wont start

well done fixing your problem also glad you are really good at tearing the bike down cause when you get the brake hoses you will have to do it all again

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