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post #1 of 36 Old Apr 15th, 2015, 4:33 am Thread Starter
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My bike and trailer arrive home

Well after what seems like forever my Lt and trailer Have arrived home safely thanks to all the assistance from RACV Roadside Total Care, they were fantastic I can highly recommend them. they put us up in a motel for the night and organised the hire car for me to drive home, as well as transporting the bike and trailer back home.
So tomorrow will be the start of a transmission o/haul for a collapsed input shaft bearing stay tuned for an update.



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Hey Linton,
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Geez, where'd the beard come from Linton? Know you'd been waiting for it to get back... but didn't think it was that long

Brian, that LT has your name all over it, at least on the number plate

Good to see you got it back in one piece mate.
Wish I could get the time off to come down and return the favour....
Let me know if there's anything I can help you with otherwise.
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Beautiful ride, sorry to hear about your trouble.
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thanks fore the good wishes, well Chris you know I am a grandfather thought it was time to look like it HA HA!.
actually Brian did offer to swap his mine I think
Well I did not expect this after only a couple of months after the clutch was replaced but here is my first obstacle.

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whats that you've snapped - rounded-off?

BTW, when did you get the 66 Valiant?
That would've been right up my Dad's alley.... still got some little odds and sods of Valiant bits around here from his mechanic days, at least whatever the Valiant group didn't take off him years ago.

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OMG.

ah that would be the pivot pin it is now stuffed , I will take it to the engineer to get it removed looks like about 75.00 part
Also found this and haven't started the gear box, my new clutch plate is stuffed, there is some blueing on the diaphram but it may be ok, and the push rod is broken, so I should not have tried to go on. Oh well shit happens.spew'n
Picked the Valiant up last weekend, something else to play with I will put up my toys for you tomorrow


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here are my Z's I will stick one up of the Valiant tomorrow, just for you mate,,

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gearbox is probably stuffed

Ok so I got the box apart front bearing is gone and I mean gone (see photo)
I lifted what's left off by hand so I am assuming the shaft is now under size, anybody have the number of a non genuine brg I would like to get one to try it on the shaft.



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I don't see no Valiant....

that doesn't look very nice Linton....

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My VC

here it is the grille has been taken out


So back to the bike
I am repairing the front input shaft hole, a new cover is 500 bucks, ordered new bearings from local bearing suppler I will need to get seals and a new clutch plate and rod from bmw Southbank. Got the stuck pivot pin out of the swing arm so now will just wait for parts to arrive.

Thinking maybe my camper is too heavy, that may have contributed to the bearing failure. I Have no Idea why the bearing would fail but I am replacing the lot
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Hi mate.
Sounds like a big job ahead of you, but we all know you love it

That VC looks pretty much like the first one my dad bought which would have been mid to late 60's I think... apart from the colour.. assume that's a respray job someone has done.
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Ouch Linton, that looks bloody awful. No not the cars
Seems like every thing is connected to every thing else.
Overheated clutch, failed push rod, shot bearing. Yikes !
The pivot pin... 6 point socket ? NO Loctite !
Just the correct torque.
Loctite buggers up the torque value due to its lube effect.
I only discovered this recently, but makes perfect sense.
Usually factored for when it is required.
How did the reaction link break ?
Curious to know the AUW for the camper trailer.
Guess if the clutch was just slightly slipping, every thing else went south.

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no locktite Hilton only replaced the clutch a couple of months ago everything was brand new, I lubricate the threads thinks this was a good idea, but found out it has to be dry I believe the lube may have caused the problem, (reaction link) is unknown to me if you mean the clutch rod, the broke when the front bearing collapsed. I attempted to ride the bike after hearing the gearbox noise . should have stopped then its a very expensive lesson upt to $800 so far as today I found this crankcase breather $124.00 thank you you very much "come in sucker again"

this is why all the oil was on top of the motor

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Sorry Linton, my bad. Miss-identified the fitting in your first pic.
The one at the bottom of the photo. What is that ?
Crankcase breather hose failing.
Without a major teardown really hard to get any rubber conditioner on there.
Not sure it would be that effective. Just one of those 10 year cost items
or DIY as others here have done.
$124 that doesn't seem too bad.
Tried replacing the chrome trim on the side cases ? Ridiculous $$

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Ah yeah, that is my broken sidchrome 1/2 drive power bar. that's how bloody tight the pivot bolt was, in the end I used an oxy torch to heat the swing arm and self locking vice grips, it let go but was totally destroyed another $90. for a new pivot bolt

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Jaysus Linton ! How hot has the gearbox been to oxidise the oil like that ? Looks a bloody mess alright. This front bearing failure,.... any clue as to the root cause ? Is the bearing shielded (steel side shields) ? Sometimes they have been seen to be installed in Jap gearboxes, and depending on the splash characteristics, they can run starved of oil. Not common but possible. Otherwise I'd be looking for ways the bearing could have encountered excessive side loading, in this case it would be axial displacement from an incorrectly set up end float (as an example).

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Hi Dennis
spoke to JZeiler he has seen it mostly on bikes that tow (3 cases) and thinks it may be due to labouring the engine while towing as it puts a lot of stress on the bearing, as you know with our road laws we are limited to 100kph, I don't fancy riding in 4th gear every where to keep the rpm up. That said I have towed my camper for around 100k km and 12 years of riding. I think that over the years my towing kg has just got to heavy for the bike with creature comforts we like to take, but that is about to change, drastically.
The bearing is the second smallest of the 6 bearings, they are all fully sealed double row and not lubricated from the gear oil, the front bearing it is single row fully sealed. they are all NSK english bearings I have ordered new bearings from my local bearing supplier, all my parts are ordered the Munich M/C in the WA, they are slightly cheaper than a bmw dealer, they list a gear box repair kit for $245, all brgs and seals but I came upon this after ordering brgs separately

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Hmmm, interesting. So when you say the bearings are not lubricated by oil splash, do you mean they are sealed against it, or is it impossible for oil to get there ? If it is possible for oil to get there I would seriously look at removing the seal(s). We used to remove the inner seal on some bearings and leave the seal in which was closest to the shaft oil seal, but in some cases this too is a problem if the shaft oil seal cannot bet lubricated in service (it will eventually fail). I would think no bearing seals would be better, but only if oil can get to the bearing. A cross sectional view of an assembled gearbox would be good, don't reckon such a thing exists though.

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Oh, now I can see it.

" Ya canna hand a man a granda spanner ". " SidChrome, guaranteed for life "

Should take them up on that !

And maybe a 3/4 breaker is on the horizon.....

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Damn, looks like the input shaft is now under size on the front from the the brg race spinning, more cost

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Sorry to hear of your troubles Linton. Yes the bearings are sealed and packed with grease but when I pull transmissions apart there is oil in the bearings as well. Guess it works in there. It is the effects of first gear lugging that seems to put the largest lateral load on the input bearing. Don't know how to avoid that especially when pulling a trailer or running a side car rig.

Maybe just don't push it until you have gained some speed. I pull a lot and now have 90,000 miles plus on my LT with about 30,000 of that with a trailer. Will have to see how it goes. Maybe you can get some one to clean the shaft up on a lathe and fit a sleeve on it for the bearing. May be cheaper than a new shaft.

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Thanks John good advise as always, we will be still pulling the trailer but going back to basics no fridge or sola panels etc.
Tonight I reassembled the gearbox, I changed all the bearings and all the seals, repaired the front cover from my damage removing the seal the last time, I had scored the edge allowing oil to by pass the outer edge of the seal, One of our Ozzie guys sent me a second hand input shaft, I slightly dressed the the area where the seal rubs on both ends so I am waiting for a couple more parts then I can start to reassemble
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Howdy all, I have my gearbox back in the bike but until someone gives me the correct info I might have to pull it all out again.
When the transmission is in gear the output shaft has about 1/4" maybe more of backlash, is this normal? the clutch disengages drive as per normal.
I can change all the gears the gear indicator matches the shift pattern Reverse goes in ok, so I dunno I didn't notice it before, Kirks Video of him testing the gear change after the transmission o/haul I can clearly hear the same clanking sound.

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So, its back together except for the plastic everything seems to work ok lights horn etc but it wont bloody start I am just about ready to burn the bastard

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Hi mate... Hope you had a quiet drink and reflection time on it last night!
Remember that "oh shit" feeling when mine wouldn't start, but you figured that out.
Gotta be something simple you've overlooked?

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same fkn thing Chris, took off the switch last night yep its busted, trying to get a s/h hand one now, wont be able to repair it no electronic places around here. been trying to work out how to bypass it but electrical is not my strong suit, read the JZ articles but I cant get my head around it, oh well

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Try this on for a temp fix. Tap into the wiring harness where this switch plugs in. If you jumper (short) the Brown Red (BRRT) to the Brown (BR) and turn on the key you should see the "R" on the dash. Now remove that short. The "R" should be out. Then short the Brown Green Yellow (BRGNGE) to the Brown green white (BRGNWS). Then turn on the key and the starter will now work. You can run like this but do not attempt a reverse.

One more thing. Disconnect the switch harness from the bike before doing the jumping. Also often the plastic "tip" of the micro switch has been dislodged and can be fitted back into the rubber boot, if you can find the little blighter.
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So, I got thinking which some times I am not known to do and decided to try and fix the switch, so far it is working so I will put it in and see how it goes,

I cut down a small brad nail applying a little rapid fix on the end and a little on the rubber boot to hold it in place. tested it and it worked yeah!! for now.



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post #31 of 36 Old May 18th, 2015, 7:01 pm
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That is a clever repair there Linton. I am impressed!

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Me too I dont think it will be permanent, I suspect I will get stuck sometime, but I will know what it is, I plan to replace at a later stage, what I did find out was that you can start the bike manually pushing the detent in the switch and the engine will keep going

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Yup. All that switch does is disconnect the starter button from the starter relay during reverse operation. That way the reverser controller has control of the starter motor. (if it did not you would have to run backwards to keep up with the bike.)
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So, to finish off the tail of woe, the bike is now running again as good as ever, I have changed out the broken rev switch and plan on going for a ride tomorrow, the weather is really crappy, wind rain and squalls most days, hoping for a bit of sun to make it nicer.
I have a niggling thought about the transmission, that's just self doubt at taking on a big job, it works great I just don't recall feathering the clutch every time to get it into first gear after I start it up.
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So, to finish off the tail of woe, the bike is now running again as good as ever, I have changed out the broken rev switch and plan on going for a ride tomorrow, the weather is really crappy, wind rain and squalls most days, hoping for a bit of sun to make it nicer.
I have a niggling thought about the transmission, that's just self doubt at taking on a big job, it works great I just don't recall feathering the clutch every time to get it into first gear after I start it up.
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Don't worry about feathering the clutch, I have to do it all the time and have never been near the internals. It a feature. ;-)

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thanks John, just back from a 2hr ride bike seems to be better than ever, very strong never missed a beat. Golly I have missed this bike, forgotten just how nice it is.

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