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Garmin's Base Camp is CRAP. Crashes, freezes, won't start and hangs...
I've been working to get it working for almost two years, on Mac and PC, and NADA. I get no use or utility out of it.

Has anyone found an alternative for route planning, that will insert route files into the Garmin V?

Planning a trip, FL to AK, and need to build my route!

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The only other way I've been able to do it is to use HD Trip Planner, a website from Harley Davidson, then export the trip to a GPX file and import that into my Garmin. I do find that I have to double check the route that the Garmin takes though, as a GPX file is really just a list of waypoints so the exact route will vary from device to device.

In short, if you want it to be simple, no, Base Camp is the only way. If you don't mind jumping through hoops, anything that will output a GPX file will work.

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Re: Garmin Base Camp Alternative?

Sorry I am not addressing your question, but I have used Basecamp since it came out and have never had any issues with it crashing or freezing. Currently, I am using a Windows 10 desktop computer. When I plan a route, I export the gpx file from my desktop to a old laptop that has the same Basecamp and map edition installed. I then take the laptop and import the file into my Zumo gps. This way I do not have to take the gps off the bike each time.
Also as a test, I have the last edition of MS Streets & Trips. I tried exporting the gpx file and importing it into Basecamp with no problems. As Whiskey stated, you will have to check the route on you gps to make sure it imported correctly with your planned route.

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The only other way I've been able to do it is to use HD Trip Planner, a website from Harley Davidson, then export the trip to a GPX file and import that into my Garmin. I do find that I have to double check the route that the Garmin takes though, as a GPX file is really just a list of waypoints so the exact route will vary from device to device.

In short, if you want it to be simple, no, Base Camp is the only way. If you don't mind jumping through hoops, anything that will output a GPX file will work.
Thanks, Whiskey. I'll check out the HD planner. I think the crux of my problem is trying to use Base Camp on my MacBook Pro. I've had other conflicts between Mac operating systems and anything Garmin. (Garmin says it works on Mac. And with each new Mac OS the problems only get worse.)

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Sorry I am not addressing your question, but I have used Basecamp since it came out and have never had any issues with it crashing or freezing. Currently, I am using a Windows 10 desktop computer. When I plan a route, I export the gpx file from my desktop to a old laptop that has the same Basecamp and map edition installed. I then take the laptop and import the file into my Zumo gps. This way I do not have to take the gps off the bike each time.
Also as a test, I have the last edition of MS Streets & Trips. I tried exporting the gpx file and importing it into Basecamp with no problems. As Whiskey stated, you will have to check the route on you gps to make sure it imported correctly with your planned route.
Thanks, Mike. As I shared in my reply to Whiskey, I am on a MacBook Pro, and I fear that's the source of my trouble. Programs written for PCs and then "ported" to MacOS just never seem to get it all right. Maybe there's a MicroSoft Surface somewhere in my future? But, damn, I hate to have to induce schizophrenia, just to be able to use Base Camp; I'm otherwise happy on my Mac. (Well, except for Quicken; but that's another story.)

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Thanks, Mike. As I shared in my reply to Whiskey, I am on a MacBook Pro, and I fear that's the source of my trouble. Programs written for PCs and then "ported" to MacOS just never seem to get it all right. Maybe there's a MicroSoft Surface somewhere in my future? But, damn, I hate to have to induce schizophrenia, just to be able to use Base Camp; I'm otherwise happy on my Mac. (Well, except for Quicken; but that's another story.)



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Interesting problem. I run base camp on my Mac desktop without issues. Must be a Mac Pro book problem.

+1 on Quicken on the Mac. I gave up on that and went to a different program. Same for Turbotax. I have to run a PC emulator so I can use Turbotax.


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Try FURKOT - it is an online program. Similar to the HD program.

No matter which program that you use, you will need to check the route once on your device.

My understanding is that a GPX file is nothing put a series of coordinates/points and it is up to the actual GPS device to determine the streets/roads to take based on the settings and map that you have on your device (avoid tolls, interstates, etc.). So, any software program should work to create a GPX file that will work with your device - just need to make sure that you have enough waypoints or vias to get it to go the exact route that you wish to go - that is the time consuming part.

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Thanks, Mike. As I shared in my reply to Whiskey, I am on a MacBook Pro, and I fear that's the source of my trouble. Programs written for PCs and then "ported" to MacOS just never seem to get it all right. Maybe there's a MicroSoft Surface somewhere in my future? But, damn, I hate to have to induce schizophrenia, just to be able to use Base Camp; I'm otherwise happy on my Mac. (Well, except for Quicken; but that's another story.)

Cheers,
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IIRC Basecamp first came out on Macs. Before it became the defacto standard mapping tool from Garmin, we used Mapsource on PCs. Or worked with MS S&T and converted (painfully) to gpx.

I've used ITN Converter in the past to build or modify routes and save them to GPX format. It uses Google maps to create and save routes. I don't know if there is a Mac version. It can convert many gps file formats, even Google Earth file and Google Maps URLs.

You do have to double check the results. I do so by importing the gpx file into Basecamp before saving to my Nav V. You can skip Basecamp and check on the GPS but it is much easier to do in Basecamp.

I've seen something called Route Converter for Macs. I've never used it but it seems to be similar to ITN Converter.

Both are Donation ware.

PS I've become used to the quirky ways of Basecamp.
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