Originally Posted by Atomicman
I just have to take eissue with a couple of comments.But of course ever one is entitled to their own opinion and beaty is in the eye of the beholder!!!
The side cases and the top case on the HD are easier to use?
couldn't disagree more. And they are small! Amd the latches and hinges are chinsy!
Slow speed handling is much easier on the 900 lbs Ultra.
Ya gotta be kindin' me?
I bet you'll some heavy disagreement on this one. I have no problem with the RTat slow speed. The Harley is a tank!
You need a football field width area to do a damn U-turn on the HOG!
And trust me I take plenty of guff from my Harley bretheren. My brother-in law has an '04 Ultra and a Fatboy that has been compleltly chopped and customized and hthe other guy I mention with the 'o9 UC is his next door neighbor.
When every i ride with them and we come to a stop, the brother law wants me to Rev up the beemer so he "Can't" hear it!
I gotta tel you the truth though. i go out every thursday night to a couple of bars that have at leat 200 Harley's show up. And they are a bit different really cool looking, all macho and some custom and for a while i thought to myself, man did i goof up by buying the RT.
I started thinking may be i did make a mistake, UNTIL I WENT FOR A RIDE ON THAT ULTRA CLASSIC LAST SEPTEMBER. NUTHIN' COULD HAVE MADE ME HAPIER THEN TO GET BACK ON MY RT AND KNOW FOR SUREI MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE!
But to each his own!
I hate to say this, amigo, but it's obvious to me you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Harleys. I rode them, on and off the jobs, for decades. Riding them one day last September doesn't make you an expert on them by any stretch of your imagination.
1. Actually, yes. The saddlebags on Harley touring bikes are more functional. First, they hold more and second, your stuff doesn't fall out all over the parking lot every time you open them. I bought liners to take care of this problem on my RT and they have helped quite a bit, but the RT's panniers are still nowhere near as convenience as the Harley bags. I honestly miss them.
2. Yes, the Harley is very easy to handle at slow speeds. Just watch any number of police rodeo videos available on youtube. I could show you myself if you lived close by. Don't blame the bikes for your lack of experience on them. It might take the width of a football field for you
to make a U-turn on a big Harley, but not anyone that's taken the time learn to ride it. I think you'd be very pleasantly surprised at how easy they are to handle at slow speed once you get the hang of it. They have several advantages in regard to this over the RT. They have a wet clutch, a lower center of gravity, and the handlebars turn farther to the right and left. With the RT, you have to lean the bike over farther to make a tight turn because of the limited travel of the handlebars. This, coupled with the RT's higher center of gravity, makes it a little trickier to make tight turns at slow speed. It can be done, but, in my opinion, it takes more practice and skill to become really proficient on an RT.
Now, with all this said, I traded in my 2008 Electra Glide with ABS and cruise control for a "loaded" 2009 R1200RT and I wouldn't ever go back. Sure, there are things I liked better about the Harley (including the saddlebags), but the positives that the RT offers vastly outweighs the Harley's virtues. Of course, the most important thing about a bike is the experience of actually riding it and, in this, I much prefer the RT over my Electra Glide. I'm not as young as I used to be (a BIG understatement
) and my body got beat up pretty badly over the years. I've had surgeries, including back surgeries, to repair injuries I sustained in the line of duty and riding does take its toll on me, especially when my wife and I are on one of our long distance tours. I still do it because it's one of the things like love most in life and I'll keep riding and touring as long as I can.
The bottom line is this. I'm more comfortable on the RT, plain and simple. That's why I ride a BMW R1200RT today and it's why, as fine a machine as they are, I won't ever be going back to riding a Harley.