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Dropped my RT in a parking lot. Dumb thing I did. Pulled into slightly downhill entrance, made a left into a do not enter. There was a car with woman driver and man in passenger seat. They would not move. I chose to back out and go the correct way. On the slope of the hill I had to try and pull the bike up a bit so I could rest the handlebars to the right hand stop. I had a 10 inch curb to clear in front of me. Being on a slope my right leg seemed to come up a bit short, lost footing and over she went.

So now the bike is laying there on a downhill slope. Being as calm as I could I made sure the bike was in gear, handle bar to the stop and put my legs and hips into it. I was surprised that I lifted uphill without problem. Mistake #2 was I never made sure the side stand was down. So now bike is upright, I had to lean over the seat and reach with left hand to put stand down. Another success. But the slope was too great and bike would not stay. Now I had to try and roll the bike down and clear of curb. That was a hairy experience but managed to get clear, stand down and rest for a few.

I am grateful for the Ilium Bars, front and rear that I installed this past October. Minor scratching / chipping to the powder coat and some scratches on the Mirror housing cover. It popped off. Surprise there is a string attached so I canít fall off completely.

Approx. damage is about 60 dollars if I wanted to replace mirror but wonít. I took some sand paper and smoothed over the scrapes all the way up to 600 grit. Polish a bit with soft cloth and reinstalled. It will definitely not bother me. What to do about the powder coat chips? Maybe a bit of paint to help hide or reflective tape over them.

Me? I got tossed to the ground over the bike. I held as long as I could and bailed clear. I landed on right side and ended up with minor bruises on shoulder and hip. Things could have been much worse.

The real pisser to me was these two people just sat in their auto watching like I was a side show attraction. Some people are just rude.
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I think it is when not if we're going to drop them - I managed to drop mine ('15 RT) the second day I had it. On my R100RT, I could engage the center stand while sitting on the bike - not so with the '15 and over we went - valve cover and saddle bag got a little scarfed up but learning did occur.

Glad you and the bike came out of it relatively ok - no surprises on the morons watching you struggle.
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I was backing my old LT out of a parking spot at fav resturant in Garland, TX one weekend some 6 years ago. Parking spot is where a sidewalk deadends against a power pole, set dead center, on corner, which effectively blocks sidewalk, so good spot for a bike, when lot is full on Saturdays !

Anyway, yu back out carefull to not have to put right foot down, if too close to curb, as there is a 6" drop to road to deal with !

While backing out to parking lot entry, car suddenly appears from my left and blocks my movement, so I am forced to quickly stop and of course bike starts leaning to right towards road, and of course I am too close to curb with no room to set foot down on sidewalk, but into road, 6" farther down. Not good !

All I could do was get off and watch her go over into road, across the curb.

Of course there were 2 men standing at front door of resturant watching me stick my butt into it and lift it back upright onto the sidewalk, and never offered to help !

My back felt that strain for a week.

A few scratches to lower on right side, mirror popped off. Other than my pride hurt a little, all was ok..

Should a looked more than twice to my left, but then nothing I could do to stop someone in a hurry, with no regard for my safety. Happens a lot these days..

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Sorry for the mishaps.

Been there done that wore that t-shirt.

I am so happy I installed my bars!

I will take them getting scuffed rather then all the other stuff.

In a down hill slope without bars you are talking about the front panel, mirror, bag, cylinder head, handle bar grip/lever and all things in between as Murphy sees fit.

I did mine on a goat path on shale, and my foot just went out trying to turn around, grabbing a fist full of front brake.

My bars are a bit scuffed but hard to see and I can live with it. All the other damage without them would have put me in the poor house and I would still be trying to save to buy all those parts. I was going to get some gray baseball bat tape but after buffing them a little I could live with them.

The LT and were old friends with naps and me butt lifting that pig in lipstick up. I had black bumpers on the bags someone produced and bought each side of the plastic side bumpers by the pairs. Scuff them up and after a bit replace them.

I learned on the side stand down the hard way. I lifted the LT got it so I could lower it on the side stand and I had not put it down. It went right over on that side. Last time I ever forgot to put a stand down. Not the last time I dropped a bike though

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Sorry man. Sounds like a rough adventure. Glad the damage was minimal.

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Kudos for admitting to such an incredibly stupid misadventure, I think I would have kept it to myself. Huge demerit for placing even the slightest bit of blame on the occupants of the other car who simply chose to obey traffic laws.

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Kudos for admitting to such an incredibly stupid misadventure, I think I would have kept it to myself. Huge demerit for placing even the slightest bit of blame on the occupants of the other car who simply chose to obey traffic laws.
I do not fault the cagers for my mistake. I accept full responsibility. I think it was wrong that neither bothered to ask if I were ok. I could never turn my back on someone in need of help.
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Me? I got tossed to the ground over the bike. I held as long as I could and bailed clear. I landed on right side and ended up with minor bruises on shoulder and hip. Things could have been much worse.

The real pisser to me was these two people just sat in their auto watching like I was a side show attraction. Some people are just rude.
You turned a potentially worse outcome into something pretty tolerable. I have one drop so far on the nice and light F800GT: it was the first day I began wearing new TCX boots that have a tall toebox and this caused me to NOT get away with something I had done for a year 5x a week, and that was to kill the engine on the top of my driveway and coast into the garage WITHOUT THE CLUTCH PULLED w/ the bike in neutral of course. Well, the new boots led to my accidentally putting bike into 1st gear WHILE I was turning the bike in the garage to a position perpendicular to my entry path--down she went in an instant! Didn't get hurt UNTIL I tried to pick up the bike using the butt against seat method, which I failed to recognize was not going to work because the bike was way too flat such that when I tried to push up with my legs no hinging was happening. Rather than reassess why, I just started pulling up w/ my arms at the same time until my lower back literally popped and I went to the floor in agony. As a tall person at 6'4" I felt pride about having a pretty strong back but that ended that day w/ bulging discs and symptoms. It's tolerable for sure, but vulnerable now, and never had been previously.

McWide: I scuffed my side cases (black plastic, just like our mirror housing) when I dropped my F800. Here's a link to the repair which completely restored the finish w/ minimal cost and effort:

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Crap happens, it is how you deal with it that matters. I think you did well to keep your cool and to me for the folks in the car it wouldn't have been a big inconvenience to back up two or three feet, being right is one thing but being courteous is recognizing another member in society. The other day I went to pick up pizza for a bunch of us that helped in a friend's move, as I was walking up to the pizza place there was a guy struggling next to his car with two large pizza boxes and a bag of pop cans on top, two people walked passed him, I asked if I could open the door for him he appreciated it and it cost me less than 5 seconds.

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Parked my then new K1200LT in the right side of our 2 car unattached garage next to my son's brand new Subaru car. Pushed the door down button, walked out, heard this big CRASH behind me. The LT had rolled off the side stand and fell into the Subaru. No damage to the LT but cost $1000 to fix the car.

I learned not to ever put the LT on the side stand w/o first checking it is in gear - the hard way.
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I do not fault the cagers for my mistake. I accept full responsibility. I think it was wrong that neither bothered to ask if I were ok. I could never turn my back on someone in need of help.
"There was a car with woman driver and man in passenger seat. They would not move."
What did you expect them to do, back out going the wrong way in a one way so you could do the same?

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"There was a car with woman driver and man in passenger seat. They would not move."
What did you expect them to do, back out going the wrong way in a one way so you could do the same?
Thank you for your wise and empathetic replies to this thread, they have been enlightening.
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I learned not to ever put the LT on the side stand w/o first checking it is in gear - the hard way.
Having not ridden for almost 30y prior to 3y ago when I picked up the F800GT I learned some valuable things from my older brother who has maybe 750K miles of riding and one of them was that it's wise to follow a strict procedure for certain elements of riding, kind of like pilots do w/ their checklist procedure for every stage of a flight. So for parking/stopping scenarios, it's always...

1. Evaluate an exit strategy before committing to any parking spot
2. Look for loose debris or other slippery factors prior to putting your feet down
3. Visually confirm your kickstand is fully down prior to tipping the bike on to it
4. With bike in gear, continue to apply the front brake as you dismount.

If you follow this procedure always the likelihood of a drop approaches zero. This being said, it's the commitment to follow a mental checklist that insures success. Flying/Riding by the seat of your pants doesn't, especially as one ages.

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McWide: I scuffed my side cases (black plastic, just like our mirror housing) when I dropped my F800. Here's a link to the repair which completely restored the finish w/ minimal cost and effort:

Repairing scuff marks to the side cases from a dropped GT: a perfect repair method - BMW F800 Riders Forum & Registry
Noel, this link is not showing up any info. Do you have any other reference? I need to do some minor patchwork. Thanks


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Thank you for your wise and empathetic replies to this thread, they have been enlightening.
I was empathetic up to the rant about the people in the car who just happened to be in his way while doing an illegal and very dangerous thing.

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Noel, this link is not showing up any info. Do you have any other reference? I need to do some minor patchwork. Thanks
That's weird I wonder if you need to be registered there at F800riders.org. I just clicked the link and it took me to the post I made. Try again on my original post above.

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I prepped these scuffs w/ #2000 grit w/d paper (don't think this was necessary). Then used a quick wipe of a paper towel dampened w/ acetone which does react w/ this plastic (not sure if this was necessary). Then wiped w/ paper towel w/ isopropyl alcohol to clean the surrounding area with.

The magic came by applying just enough Krylon Fusion satin black using ultra light dustings just on the scuffs only. I've used this paint on notoriously hard to paint smooth polypropylene/polyethylene and it worked quite well--it's designed to adhere to 'most' plastics with minimal prep. Let that dry for 10 minutes or so and decided it was wee bit too glossy, a very wee bit. Next I applied a super light dusting of KF flat black: this provided the perfect matching texture to the surrounding texture on the side case plastic, and the same level of gloss. It even feels the same when you rub your hand over the repair--textured, and that was after I had used the 2000 grip which made the surface ultra smooth where the scuffs were. Satin & Flat, not gloss black.

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They all do that.

Scrapes just make the bike look meaner!

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That's weird I wonder if you need to be registered there at F800riders.org. I just clicked the link and it took me to the post I made. Try again on my original post above.

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I prepped these scuffs w/ #2000 grit w/d paper (don't think this was necessary). Then used a quick wipe of a paper towel dampened w/ acetone which does react w/ this plastic (not sure if this was necessary). Then wiped w/ paper towel w/ isopropyl alcohol to clean the surrounding area with.

The magic came by applying just enough Krylon Fusion satin black using ultra light dustings just on the scuffs only. I've used this paint on notoriously hard to paint smooth polypropylene/polyethylene and it worked quite well--it's designed to adhere to 'most' plastics with minimal prep. Let that dry for 10 minutes or so and decided it was wee bit too glossy, a very wee bit. Next I applied a super light dusting of KF flat black: this provided the perfect matching texture to the surrounding texture on the side case plastic, and the same level of gloss. It even feels the same when you rub your hand over the repair--textured, and that was after I had used the 2000 grip which made the surface ultra smooth where the scuffs were. Satin & Flat, not gloss black.
Thanks for the copy and paste. Looks nice a nice project for mirror case scuffs.


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Dropped my RT in a parking lot. Dumb thing I did. Pulled into slightly downhill entrance, made a left into a do not enter. There was a car with woman driver and man in passenger seat. They would not move. I chose to back out and go the correct way. On the slope of the hill I had to try and pull the bike up a bit so I could rest the handlebars to the right hand stop. I had a 10 inch curb to clear in front of me. Being on a slope my right leg seemed to come up a bit short, lost footing and over she went.

So now the bike is laying there on a downhill slope. Being as calm as I could I made sure the bike was in gear, handle bar to the stop and put my legs and hips into it. I was surprised that I lifted uphill without problem. Mistake #2 was I never made sure the side stand was down. So now bike is upright, I had to lean over the seat and reach with left hand to put stand down. Another success. But the slope was too great and bike would not stay. Now I had to try and roll the bike down and clear of curb. That was a hairy experience but managed to get clear, stand down and rest for a few.

I am grateful for the Ilium Bars, front and rear that I installed this past October. Minor scratching / chipping to the powder coat and some scratches on the Mirror housing cover. It popped off. Surprise there is a string attached so I canít fall off completely.

Approx. damage is about 60 dollars if I wanted to replace mirror but wonít. I took some sand paper and smoothed over the scrapes all the way up to 600 grit. Polish a bit with soft cloth and reinstalled. It will definitely not bother me. What to do about the powder coat chips? Maybe a bit of paint to help hide or reflective tape over them.

Me? I got tossed to the ground over the bike. I held as long as I could and bailed clear. I landed on right side and ended up with minor bruises on shoulder and hip. Things could have been much worse.

The real pisser to me was these two people just sat in their auto watching like I was a side show attraction. Some people are just rude.
Maybe they were sitting in the car thinking , here's another guy on a bike thinking that road rules only apply to cars.
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Maybe they were sitting in the car thinking , here's another guy on a bike thinking that road rules only apply to cars.
Either that, or after seeing him go the wrong way down a one way then dumping the bike trying to turn around they suspected he was drunk. Either way I don't blame them for not getting out to help.

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My faith in Jesus Christ is intact, even if I think the op should learn to obey simple traffic laws and respect the right of way of others, but thanks for your concern.

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My faith in Jesus Christ is intact, even if I think the op should learn to obey simple traffic laws and respect the right of way of others, but thanks for your concern.
Brings to mind, 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Don't think a little compassion is in order? Surely the OP learned some lessons he won't forget. Now go out and do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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I guess you never made a wrong turn? I know I have been helped by complete strangers to lift my bikes over the years, and I have done my share of helping, I guess those acts of kindness are no longer acceptable.

Also the people in the car witnessed an accident and were part of a potential hazard. The needed to back out with 4 ways on to alert others and the passenger could have approached, asked if they were going to be OK or what they may need, and got a better "feel" for the situation.

No risk involved, able to asses the situation, car is being backed out for more visual warning to on coming traffic and the driver able to use a phone if anything goes south.

Oh wait I was raised and learned to drive in a different time.

As a driver, your privilege to drive is based on a test. I am sure accidents, and response to accidents are covered to some extent. None of those mattered in my life except for my fathers test. He also made sure I knew how to respond in a emergency and covering my 6 to unaware drivers. We had flares but most dumb asses can not be trusted with them now. And I am betting few have reflective triangles either.

And religion aside, I believe you have a civic responsibility as a Human Being to help, and I think there is a law about rendering aid in most states.

All I know is karma is a bitch, and what goes around comes around, and you reap what you sow, and any other clique you want to use. They truly were meant, and are true because of people like you. Watch out for lightning I think one got your name on it.

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A while ago, I had a k100lt Tobacco brown as my daily commuter in sunny Seattle, wa. During the Fall time, after the rain, the leaves where on the ground and I went to pick my friend to give her a lift to work. We both got on ok, and as i started to maneuver down the hill the scoot slipped out from underneath the rear tires (wet leaves). If it was not for those lovely bags, it could have been worse.

Taught me spend the extra few minutes to think more about the surroundings and not take it for granted, and not be in such a rush. Of course one never should go into what i call "analysis \ paralysis..." mode.

Honestly, it was the best thing for that scoot, as we all know Tobacco brown is the worst color. (Stickers added character, after i decided not to reprint it)..and I did not have to worry about IF i dropped it.. The deed was done....

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Taught me spend the extra few minutes to think more about the surroundings and not take it for granted, and not be in such a rush.
I agree: 100% attention to drop risk in slow speed maneuvers is required w/ heavy bikes to reduce drop risk. If you're really good at maintaining 100% attention to how you turn, clutch slipping/rear braking, counter weighting, throttle control and perhaps most of all assessing exactly where you're putting yourself in a parking situation or other situation including slopes, clearances, curbs, surface debris etc, I think you can all but eliminate drop risk. My guess/hope is what topples my RT will be someone backing up into it rather than me dropping it. Being in a rush on a heavy MC is about as wise as the pilot of a commercial plane being in a rush and skipping the checklists. Not gonna do it! Some folks have earned confidence for sure, and it's always fun to watch videos of moto cops proving what can be done w/ handling of heavy bikes, but Lord knows I'll never get there at my age and capacity, so the best I can do is be ultra deliberate and follow my mental checklist. I don't care if I have to ride to another parking place I always think about what's required to exit before settling on a parking spot.
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I think he feels bad enough about the "wrong way" turn and needs no additional chiding from us. Laying down the bike is the central point to his post and the misery that creates. I know I've done some things that I should have avoided that led to a drop. It's just good to know that I have some company in that department.
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I guess you never made a wrong turn? I know I have been helped by complete strangers to lift my bikes over the years, and I have done my share of helping, I guess those acts of kindness are no longer acceptable.

Also the people in the car witnessed an accident and were part of a potential hazard. The needed to back out with 4 ways on to alert others and the passenger could have approached, asked if they were going to be OK or what they may need, and got a better "feel" for the situation.

No risk involved, able to asses the situation, car is being backed out for more visual warning to on coming traffic and the driver able to use a phone if anything goes south.

Oh wait I was raised and learned to drive in a different time.

As a driver, your privilege to drive is based on a test. I am sure accidents, and response to accidents are covered to some extent. None of those mattered in my life except for my fathers test. He also made sure I knew how to respond in a emergency and covering my 6 to unaware drivers. We had flares but most dumb asses can not be trusted with them now. And I am betting few have reflective triangles either.

And religion aside, I believe you have a civic responsibility as a Human Being to help, and I think there is a law about rendering aid in most states.

All I know is karma is a bitch, and what goes around comes around, and you reap what you sow, and any other clique you want to use. They truly were meant, and are true because of people like you. Watch out for lightning I think one got your name on it.
I have always owned up to my mistakes. I would never in a million years do anything in this situation but pick my bike up, go home, be embarrased as hell that someone witnessed my stupidity and decide right then and there that I would never do that again.
The fact the op has even the slightest bit of anger towards the people he made wait for him to get his ass out of their way is the issue here, and the only reason I replied to this thread.
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I think some clarifications are in order. Some people are reading more into this than I intended.
As stated in my original post, I took full responsibility for the incident. I never asked the cager to back up. It would have been a courteous thing to do. It would have allowed me to pass instead of back up. There were no vehicles behind . All this happened within 10 feet entrance to the parking lot. The Do not enter sign was turned away from me and I saw it at the last second.
I chose to back up and it did not work out. I went down. No I would never suffer embarrassment for the accident. Accidents happen. I have ridden motorcycles for over 40 years and have only went down twice.
I donít know where some people here think I had any Anger . Unless they mistook Pisser to be an Anger.
It was a fantastic sunny day to take a ride. I enjoyed the rest of the ride.
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I, too, have stopped numerous times to ask what would appear to be distressed drivers (MC and car). Usually the response is that everything is under contro, BUT NOT ALWAYS and I have been fortunate enough to have been able to provide assistance. I would hope that should I need assistance, it will be forthcoming. I feel for the op because a few years ago I dropped my K1600GTL in a parking lot. I stalled in a very slow speed turn. There was now way that I was going to be able to right the bike myself. Two complete strangers walked over to me, asked if I was ok, and almost effortlessly righted the bike. And off I went. Yes, the drop was certainly my fault but the help was a blessing!
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i was going to say what a *ick!!
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We can't assume that all people even recognize or even know what we need without us asking. There are many who don't realize how heavy a big bike is, and perhaps it is the first time they have even been around a motorcycle laying on its side. Or they may be very reluctant to get involved for strength, aches, or not knowing what to do.
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We can't assume that all people even recognize or even know what we need without us asking. There are many who don't realize how heavy a big bike is, and perhaps it is the first time they have even been around a motorcycle laying on its side. Or they may be very reluctant to get involved for strength, aches, or not knowing what to do.
and who knows their reverse gear may have been broken and maybe they where born without a empathy gene and....
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Yeah I guess you guys are right. The "cage" driver should have put it in reverse and backed up, be damned if he's going the wrong way. Or, he should have moved to the side to allow the OP to continue his journey the wrong way in a one way.
Unbelievable, the bs I'm reading in this thread. Motorcyclists face the exact same laws as car drivers. You learn that when you get your motorcycle endorsement - are your memories that f'g short?

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Yeah I guess you guys are right. The "cage" driver should have put it in reverse and backed up, be damned if he's going the wrong way. Or, he should have moved to the side to allow the OP to continue his journey the wrong way in a one way.
Unbelievable, the bs I'm reading in this thread. Motorcyclists face the exact same laws as car drivers. You learn that when you get your motorcycle endorsement - are your memories that f'g short?

It is about being compassionate, courtesy, and just being a caring Human Being.

Obviously you are not any of those.

Car, motorcycle, a door, helping someone across the street anything, it just takes manors and patience, and compassion, and a little time.

I bet you are a road rager aren't you?

Like I said you will get yours, anyone who has a attitude like yours is sure to need help someday. Good luck when that happens.

Culling the herd is how you get the desired traits and attributes you desire. You are for sure on the cull list as from what you write you have no desirable traits that contribute to a good society. You also should not be able to breed as you do not have the correct skill set or aptitude to raise a productive member of society.

You are just a road rage incident away from someone putting you down. Your attitude is going to be the death of you for sure.

I really have been on a roll with the ignore feature of this Forum. You make it number 4 in all the years I have been on here. You got noting to share that would be of value to me so I prefer not to read anything you post.
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Yeah I guess you guys are right. The "cage" driver should have put it in reverse and backed up, be damned if he's going the wrong way. Or, he should have moved to the side to allow the OP to continue his journey the wrong way in a one way.
Unbelievable, the bs I'm reading in this thread. Motorcyclists face the exact same laws as car drivers. You learn that when you get your motorcycle endorsement - are your memories that f'g short?
Take a deep breath Erik. The dude made an honest mistake, had poor judgement, or what have you. Laws sometimes have to be broken to for example prevent something worse from happening. If you're riding along and a deer shoots out, is it wrong to cross the double yellow line to avoid it just because no one is coming at you in the oncoming lanes? You're breaking the law, right? Had the folks in the car recognized the looming potential problem for the rider (and they may not have) and if they also had some compassion it may have been very simple to back up if that would have given McW an escape path, or they could have 'stood their ground' on the basis that it was their 'right'. How about you, what would you have done as the car driver?

People jumped on you because you didn't acknowledge the law shouldn't always trump common sense, courtesy, etc. Since you're right w/ the Lord don't forget some of his admonitions: let he who is w/o sin cast the first stone, judge not that ye not be judged, blessed are the merciful for they shall be shown mercy, etc.

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It is about being compassionate, courtesy, and just being a caring Human Being.

Obviously you are not any of those.

Car, motorcycle, a door, helping someone across the street anything, it just takes manors and patience, and compassion, and a little time.

I bet you are a road rager aren't you?

Like I said you will get yours, anyone who has a attitude like yours is sure to need help someday. Good luck when that happens.

Culling the herd is how you get the desired traits and attributes you desire. You are for sure on the cull list as from what you write you have no desirable traits that contribute to a good society. You also should not be able to breed as you do not have the correct skill set or aptitude to raise a productive member of society.

You are just a road rage incident away from someone putting you down. Your attitude is going to be the death of you for sure.

I really have been on a roll with the ignore feature of this Forum. You make it number 4 in all the years I have been on here. You got noting to share that would be of value to me so I prefer not to read anything you post.
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Ladies, ladies, ladies! I think we're all missing the point here. What oil were you running, McWideglide???
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