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post #1 of 16 Old Jan 19th, 2017, 6:32 pm Thread Starter
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I have a 2016 1200RT, wanted to change out just low beam bulb to a white LED bulb ordered one from Cyclops but the bulb H7 4000 lumens specified for a BMW they sent me did not fit. The adapter was too big for the opening they told it was the right one but no way to get the adapter ring into the opening. Has anyone replaced the low beam? Which LED bulb did you use? Still looking to get a LED replacement bulb.
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I just installed the same one from cyclops last week. Fit just fine but I'm getting lamp out error when the high beam is activated.


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I have a 2016 1200RT, wanted to change out just low beam bulb to a white LED bulb ordered one from Cyclops but the bulb H7 4000 lumens specified for a BMW they sent me did not fit. The adapter was too big for the opening they told it was the right one but no way to get the adapter ring into the opening. Has anyone replaced the low beam? Which LED bulb did you use? Still looking to get a LED replacement bulb.
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Re: LED bulb

I spent a lot of money and a lot of time finding an LED bulb that would work. One that fit, didn't lower output when it got hot, and didn't throw a CanBus error.
Here is what I found that worked for me: RT LED Conversion that WERKS


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I spent a lot of money and a lot of time finding an LED bulb that would work. One that fit, didn't lower output when it got hot, and didn't throw a CanBus error.
Here is what I found that worked for me: RT LED Conversion that WERKS
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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LED's do not belong in halogen headlight bowls. Plain and simple.

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post #7 of 16 Old Feb 13th, 2017, 3:06 pm Thread Starter
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Installed the bulb you recommended from Amazon..what a pain to fit everything in there. It sure does look good, love the white light than yellowish halogen. I did not get any codes or warning lights however that was just sitting in the garage. Since now that we have around 2 feet of snow it will be awhile to test it out on the road. Will keep you posted.

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LED's do not belong in halogen headlight bowls. Plain and simple.

Good read: Should You Swap Your Headlight Bulbs For LEDs?
Well, riff42. I Have fitted the Car Rover LED H3 lamp to my high beam and it is excellent.
I can't give a comment about a low beam application.
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Well, riff42. I Have fitted the Car Rover LED H3 lamp to my high beam and it is excellent.
I can't give a comment about a low beam application.

I'm at odds about high beam. Because you shouldn't have highs on around others anyway, so who cares what's in it. If anything, i'm worried the light throw will be crap, compared to a halogen. Using an HIR might be better.

But never low beam.

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Since the LED emitters are in almost exactly the same place as the halogen bulb filament, the light pattern is very, very similar to the halogen bulb when running the LED bulb I have mentioned above. That was one thing I was testing. Easy to automatically tell everyone don't do something, but without actually testing you just don't know. HID bulbs are notorious for wrecking light patterns and I assume that has become an internet tale that automatically applies to LED bulbs. I won't guarantee LED bulbs will all be good with pattern, but mine is close to identical. There is more light and a whiter light. With only a single bulb, that is a good thing.


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I'm at odds about high beam. Because you shouldn't have highs on around others anyway, so who cares what's in it. If anything, i'm worried the light throw will be crap, compared to a halogen. Using an HIR might be better.

But never low beam.
I think you mean HID.
If you do, I have firsthand experience of that using a variety of bulbs.
Yes they are VERY bright, but, and it's a big but, they destroy the beam pattern and cause excessive glare. To get the glare anywhere near what is acceptable (say if you were in the car coming towards you), your beam would need to be set very low.
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I think you mean HID.
If you do, I have firsthand experience of that using a variety of bulbs.
Yes they are VERY bright, but, and it's a big but, they destroy the beam pattern and cause excessive glare. To get the glare anywhere near what is acceptable (say if you were in the car coming towards you), your beam would need to be set very low.
No, I mean HIR for high-beams. Using HID for highs destroys your ability to Flash to pass, because of the warm-up time needed for an HID bulb to be bright.
But yeah, for low beams, LED and HID are horrible and unsafe.

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Since the LED emitters are in almost exactly the same place as the halogen bulb filament, the light pattern is very, very similar to the halogen bulb when running the LED bulb I have mentioned above. That was one thing I was testing. Easy to automatically tell everyone don't do something, but without actually testing you just don't know. HID bulbs are notorious for wrecking light patterns and I assume that has become an internet tale that automatically applies to LED bulbs. I won't guarantee LED bulbs will all be good with pattern, but mine is close to identical. There is more light and a whiter light. With only a single bulb, that is a good thing.
You are kidding right? The emitters are on 2-3 sides of a solid metal stalk. A halogen bulb are linear filaments with relatively nothing blocking them!!! Just the thin wire standoffs.
Thereby, and LED bulb emits light in two directions from a flat emitting surface, not a nearly 360deg light output.
That is why there is NO manufacture that actually makes LED reflector headlights with those kind of bulbs. They have specifically designed Ray-Traced headlights that are designed around a specific emitter!

ie: http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...RA-626x592.jpg
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How can those be the same light output?

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Well, it is obvious you are just wanting to argue against LED bulbs. While the two emitters are exactly the same distance from the base of the bulb as the halogen filament ( which has everything to do with light pattern ), there cannot be the exact amount of light hitting all elements of the reflector surface. What you don't understand is that the emitters, while placed East/West put out light in a VERY wide pattern. Meaning the upper and lower reflector areas get light to reflect. Is it as much as a halogen filament? Probably not. But, the light that hits the reflectors acts just as light would from a halogen filament. Meaning the light pattern is very much like running a halogen bulb. Just more light and MUCH whiter light.

I don't doubt there are some LED bulbs that would aggravate light patterns due to emitter placement. But I really believe these stories of horrible light patterns originate with HID conversions. Which I completely agree with, my experience with them shows the light patterns to be poor. I don't design lights for factories, or sell LED conversions. I did fit my RT with an LED conversion bulb and am completely satisfied with light pattern and output. Worth all the trouble. Without seeing it firsthand, maybe it is hard to believe. So be it.


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I'll throw my 2 cents in here.. I have an 06, therefore 2 different reflectors. Happy with the Stock HID for low beam. Was not for the High beam so i installed an H9 HID from Xenon depot. Very nice, but was not happy at all with the slow warm up time. Xenon came out with an H9 LED. So I tried it. Extremely happy with it. The light pattern is pretty much just like the HID. Light output is somewhat less, but much more than the Stock. Temperature is exactly like the low beam. And the price was perfect 74 bucks, and plug and play. Check it out, if you can use it on your bike. Not arguing for or against LED, but just stating a fact from actual use.


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On my 2008 R1200RT I followed the thread realshelby posted above and used exactly the same LED bulb he did and I am very happy with the result. I've only got 100 miles with it so far though(it's winter here in MN but we had some 60s last week). I only did the 2 low beams for now but may switch the high beam also. Thanks realshelby!
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