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Traction & Wear on PR4GT v Pirelli Angel GT

Anyone have experience w/ both these two? I've always felt a little uneasy w/ the PR4GT's from a little sliding here and there, the most recent was at ultra low speed u-turn when the rear wheel slid a little. I'm not looking for the most traction, just a little better combined w/ good wear. I get about 11,500m out of PR4GT. Open to other brands that might beat PR4GT for traction, and have wear somewhat similar.

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Re: Traction & Wear on PR4GT v Pirelli Angel GT

I found as they wore they started to really slide out a lot. Got 9000 miles so I am probably a bit more agressive. Went to Road Tec (Michelin). So far they seem great. By the end of winter I will have a better history with them.
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I've had the stock conty's, the PR4GT and now the Pirelli angel GT on my '14 RT.
Pirelli is my favorite by far, smoother feeling, quieter and great traction. All opinion of course...
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I've never tried the PR4s but I was very happy with the Angel GT. (20-22,000 km life) I think they're the most "sporty" of the sport touring tires. They were excellent on wet pavement.
My only complain was that they tended to square off rear the end.

Angel GT rear 20,000 km



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I'm now running T-30 Evo GTs. The rear doesn't last as long as the Angels but the difference in price compensates, so they end up costing the same per km. The front lasts much longer and is comparable to the Angels.

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Angel GT's felt a ton more capable. Better grip and smoother ride. Don't know about mileage yet but don't really get too concerned about that. When they look like they have a little left I will replace them.
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I found as they wore they started to really slide out a lot.
You are referring to the Angel GT?

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Thanks for those photos. The Angle GT rear was quite squared compared to what I saw at similar miles on the PR4GT. Lots of freeway or at least straight road miles do you think?

So far it seems most here find the Angel GTs a good thing for traction and maybe a little compromise on life expectancy, or not.

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The PR probably is not slipping on you, it just felt like it was. OK that needs explained. The grooves on the GT are wide in the first roll over area and the tire flexes at the grooves. Took me some getting used to as I was thinking that I was slipping as well.
Angels get real flat, real early. This cuts down longevity. I like the T30 and BT023 . The 023 is getting hard to find, so the 30 is a good choice.
I also liked the PR3 in "B" rating. Rear didn't flatten in 9k miles, and front lasted 12k with no cupping. I should add that all 9k on that PR3 were towing a trailer to AK.
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The grooves on the GT are wide in the first roll over area and the tire flexes at the grooves. Took me some getting used to as I was thinking that I was slipping as well.
What made you conclude it had more to do w/ flexing than slipping? I know the Metzler Z8 on my FGT really squared off and that was with a lot of canyon carving.

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Re: Traction & Wear on PR4GT v Pirelli Angel GT

I had one set of Angel GT's and one set of PR4GT's. Both were into the wear bars around 6000 miles. I preferred the dry handling of the Pirellis and wet handling of the Michelins. I prefer the Metzeler Roadtec 01's to both of those.

Now someone please pass the popcorn so I can sit back and watch this tire thread...develop.
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I prefer the Metzeler Roadtec 01's to both of those.

Now someone please pass the popcorn so I can sit back and watch this tire thread...develop.
Hehe, you shut it down

I just saw the Roadtec 01's and they do look really nice. The dude at the BMW shop said they were his #1 tire as well. He said they stay round really long.

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