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Question How do I take the sidecases off ?

2016 RT. The manual says to rotate the key to the release position. But it won't. It only goes between the dot and the "lock" position. I cannot get the handles to pop no matter what I try.

I have only tried doing this with the engine running. Could it be that sidecases can only come off with engine not running ?

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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

OK... are we being punked again... You need the key in the case to unlock it. Why would you have the bike running???

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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

'cause I have keyless feature.

Key is in my pocket when I start the bike. Not riding as it is icy outside. Just start it once in a while.

As I am getting acquainted with the bike I tinker with it while the engine warms up to operating temperature.

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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

My key needs be turned firmly to release the handle for removal. I don't have a keyless ignition . Do you have a central locking. That may need unlocking first.

New bike, take it to your dealer and let them instruct you.
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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

Make sure you're turning the key in the right direction ... this happened to me once (or so I thought) only to find I was trying to turn the key the wrong way. You only need to turn it a little bit and the handle will simply pop up.

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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

ditto on the 'right direction' - I saw the sales person do it once. I tried a day later and could not for the life of me get that little handle to pop.... then I did.

I'm used to the cases on my R1200c (you opened them and released a lever inside to remove them) - these are going to take a little getting used to...
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Yeah, looked at that numerous times....will try with the bike not running...

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Mines really simple. Turn the key to the release side (from memory it is also the locked side) and the handle pops up. never tried with the engine running but I cant see why that would make a difference. Mine can be unlocked and removed whether or not the auto-locks are engaged (auto-locks are automatically released when the bag is removed). Steve
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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

See my thread Steering lock intermittent fault which was about a weird electrical glitch that occurred on a bike where everything opens and shuts - as long as the computer says 'Yeeeess'. My intermittent fault (which happened over a 10 month period) never presented itself when the bike was in for a service. It sounds like yours is there all the time and so a trip the the workshop should see it fixed. I hope your nearest BMW workshop isn't a 250 km round trip like mine.

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'cause I have keyless feature.

Key is in my pocket when I start the bike. Not riding as it is icy outside. Just start it once in a while.

As I am getting acquainted with the bike I tinker with it while the engine warms up to operating temperature.

The question is genuine.
The key is in the FOB... just push the small tiny silver button to release the key.
Make sure you unlock the central locking system by pushing the button with the arrow on it first. put the key in the lock and turn.

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Re: How do I take the sidecases off ?

Went to the dealer. It turned out I was so scared of damaging anything that I did not apply enough twisting force to get the handle to pop up. Otherwise I was doing everything correctly.

Issue resolved.

Thanks for the help folks.
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It turned out I was so scared of damaging anything that I did not apply enough twisting force to get the handle to pop up.
Not a bad thing to be cautious--carry that caution with you when it's time to learn CORRECTLY how to remove and replace the side fairing panels to avoid the common mistake those 'who rush in' quickly discover.

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Now that you know how to take the case off, make sure the screws are tight on the "case stops" that are on the frame behind the cases.
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Now that you know how to take the case off, make sure the screws are tight on the "case stops" that are on the frame behind the cases.
Some have discovered the screws back themselves out unless tightened and might as well use some thread lock while you're there.
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2016 RT. The manual says to rotate the key to the release position. But it won't. It only goes between the dot and the "lock" position. I cannot get the handles to pop no matter what I try.

I have only tried doing this with the engine running. Could it be that sidecases can only come off with engine not running ?

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'cause I have keyless feature.

Key is in my pocket when I start the bike. Not riding as it is icy outside. Just start it once in a while.

As I am getting acquainted with the bike I tinker with it while the engine warms up to operating temperature.

The question is genuine.
I have another question for you. Why are you starting the bike once and awhile if you aren't riding it? From what i have believed over the years, and from what i have read on this forum numerous times, it is bad to start a bike for a short time then shut it down without going for a ride and warming the engine enough to burn out the pollutants. I have read on the forum numerous times that you can't get the bike hot enough to do this just by idling it. I could be wrong on this, maybe others could advise on this.


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<snip> I have read on the forum numerous times that you can't get the bike hot enough to do this just by idling it. </sinp>
I think that is primarily for the air/oil-cooled bikes. I would think the water-cooled boxer would be a little safer idling. That said, I'm not sure what benefit there is to starting up the bike and not riding it - other than watching the needles/dash cycle through it's cool animation!

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I think that is primarily for the air/oil-cooled bikes. I would think the water-cooled boxer would be a little safer idling. That said, I'm not sure what benefit there is to starting up the bike and not riding it - other than watching the needles/dash cycle through it's cool animation!
The issue isn't related to idling temperature, but to the fact that if you start up for just a very short period and then shut down again, you are generating potentially corrosive gases in the engine (from burning rich mixture) that will mix with the moisture from the combustion to form acids which will accumulate in the engine oil, and that is NOT good! Taking the bike out for a ride after starting will flush out the corrosive gases, and allow the engine to run at the proper mixture, after warm-up, and the combustion will be more complete with less corrosive gases.
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The idea was to get it to operating temperature...run it like that for a while so that the battery can recharge...

After doing this 2 or 3 times it looks like I can leave the battery for up to three weeks and it will still have enough juice to start. The bike is kept at about 6C environment temperature.
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The idea was to get it to operating temperature...run it like that for a while so that the battery can recharge...

After doing this 2 or 3 times it looks like I can leave the battery for up to three weeks and it will still have enough juice to start. The bike is kept at about 6C environment temperature.
You might want to consider investing in an inexpensive battery tender. Several models to choose from and many will work directly through the canbus plug already on the bike although most of us just wire a pigtail to the battery and use an SAE or similar type connector. This will extend the life of your battery compared to only cranking it up every few weeks.
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I think that is primarily for the air/oil-cooled bikes. I would think the water-cooled boxer would be a little safer idling. That said, I'm not sure what benefit there is to starting up the bike and not riding it - other than watching the needles/dash cycle through it's cool animation!
From the Rider Manual:

Danger of overheating
ATTENTION
Engine idling for a lengthy period while at a standstill. Overheating caused by insuffi- cient cooling. In extreme cases, the motorcycle could catch fire. Do not allow the engine to idle unnecessarily.
After starting, ride off immediately.
My understanding is our water boxers are only partially water cooled and still depend greatly on air cooling. That is corroborated on how quickly coolant temps increase when you come to a stop and have the engine idling when the cooling fan comes on, and that can happen in quite cool weather. I thought the message above from the manual was over concern, however my local dealer said nope it's not--they're heard of a bike catching fire from letting it idle in the garage! Didn't ask if it was a water boxer though. Moreover, BMW apparently formally advised against cooler guards on these machines due to concern over reducing cooling capacity, etc. Unlike your car which is likely fully water cooled, these guys aren't the same.

Plus, on a newer battery, how long can you leave the bike w/o running it? Seems like a month+ is no big deal on a newer battery, but I really don't know. My 3y/o F800GT sat for 5 weeks while we were away and voila, started right up. 3y/o battery. Battery tender if you're stuck for winter I guess is a good idea.

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