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post #1 of 27 Old Oct 23rd, 2014, 3:50 am Thread Starter
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Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

I've just bought RT water-cooled! Do I buy the Garmin 660 or BMW Navigator V!!!
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post #2 of 27 Old Oct 23rd, 2014, 6:10 am
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I've just bought RT water-cooled! Do I buy the Garmin 660 or BMW Navigator V!!!
Well, not the 660.
So you have bought a wethead without the satnav? so it has not got the built in unit? Curious decision if you are a SatNav user.
If your bike is secondhand and has the dashboard to take the BMW SatNav, I'd get that, if not I would steer you towards the Garmin 590LM. Very similar to the Nav 5, but a really good unit.
The 590 outperforms the 660 in real areas of user friendliness and features.
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

Yes the bike is secondhand! I thought the BMW V was a rebadged 660 but the only advantage with BMW V 5 could be controlled from the muli control wheel!
Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

I think the Nav V is a repackaged Zumo 590, the Nav IV was the Zumo 660.

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Yes the bike is secondhand! I thought the BMW V was a rebadged 660 but the only advantage with BMW V 5 could be controlled from the muli control wheel!
Thanks for your reply.
So can I clarify that this bike has the modified dashboard that has the built in SatNav holder?
If so I would go with the Nav 5 as it integrates with the thumb wheel for readback of some of the bike data.
If it is a model that does not have the raised dashboard I would go with the Garmin Zumo 590LM. As Gerhard says, the 590LM is the more equivelent of the Nav 5. However it does not have the software to accept the data from the bike, so it would be a standalone unit...all be it a very good one.
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Thanks Bandytales. Yes it the bike is Satnav prepared! I was not sure if the garmin would go straight into the satnav hole and was the extra expense of the BMW Nav worth it?
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Thanks Bandytales. Yes it the bike is Satnav prepared! I was not sure if the garmin would go straight into the satnav hole and was the extra expense of the BMW Nav worth it?
Pretty sure the casing is different so no, it won't go in. However, I will wait for other Wethead owners to chime in, because some of them have 2 bikes, and may be running a 590LM on the second bike.
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Pretty sure the casing is different so no, it won't go in. However, I will wait for other Wethead owners to chime in, because some of them have 2 bikes, and may be running a 590LM on the second bike.

The screen on the Nav V is larger than the NavIV or 660 but I believe the outside dimensions are the same but the 590 is completely different case. I am pretty sure that I saw a 660 on the factory mount of a GS so why shouldn't it work on the RT. There must be folks here that have a '14 RT and Garmin 660 that can give the definitive answer.

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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

I have the BMW Nav V and the cradle has those hard buttons on the left side so should your cradle. If not, then it's for the 660 or other non-BMW Nav unit imho. I don't have the radio/thumb wheel setup, but if I did, I would go with whatever integrates with that option. I think it's much easier to thumb through the GPS than to push either the hard buttons or screen commands meaning that your hand is off the handle bars.
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The screen on the Nav V is larger than the NavIV or 660 but I believe the outside dimensions are the same but the 590 is completely different case. I am pretty sure that I saw a 660 on the factory mount of a GS so why shouldn't it work on the RT. There must be folks here that have a '14 RT and Garmin 660 that can give the definitive answer.

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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

Here's something interesting I found out about the NAV V I'm waiting for to arrive after purchasing my 2014 R1200RT. I called the dealer about something else and asked about an ETA on the NAV unit. He told me that it was ordered to go along with my VIN, even thought it was the free incentive.
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post #12 of 27 Old Oct 23rd, 2014, 3:16 pm Thread Starter
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Hamman Thanks for your reply. Would it be possible for you to post or send me a picture of the 660 on your bike. No hurry! Thanks again.
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Thanks JimJim Any views? I'd appreciate!
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

No brainer, buy the Nav V. It has a slightly larger screen and can be operated with the thumb wheel and setup for special functions.
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

Just my two bits. I have both 660 and Nav V and have used them for as long as they have been out. The Nav V is far superior on several fronts and it integrates to the bike (go to the website to see what is different). The 660 is at the end of its life and not getting much support from Garmin these days. The new 590 is a pretty powerful one too but the integration of the Nav V wins in my opinion. The only thing they screwed up on is that it can not be locked into place and for some strange reason a Nav V installed in a GS gets much more data from the bike than when it is plugged into the RT.....bit jealous about that things like how many shifts what gears yada yada....
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No brainer, buy the Nav V. It has a slightly larger screen and can be operated with the thumb wheel and setup for special functions.
There you go. Both jimjim AND Yammer have confirmed that the Nav 5 which integrate are worth it.
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Two things I don't like about the 660 on the RT:

- The way the cradle is connected to the Canbus, the GPS goes on automatically when I switch the ignition on. It has to (I couldn't do it myself otherwise), but I can't turn it off because the upper button is now under the shield, and I have no control with the thumb wheel. And I don't like to have that GPS on when I don't need it. Not terrible, but irritating.

- Worse, the angle of the cradle is such that the screen of the GPS becomes invisible under some lighting. On my GS, I had a sun shield or visor that I stuck with Velco around the unit, but now I can't do that anymore. By the way, I'd appreciate any tip to solve that problem. Thank you.
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

That is one of the big advantages of the Nav5 compared to the 660. The screen brightness/display is far better in bright light on the Nav5 then it is on the 660.
That alone is already enough to choose the Nav5.
As I wrote my 2005RT to the dealer with the 660 mounted and operating, then left with the 2014RT and the Nav5 mounted and operating, the improved display readability was immediately apparent. A big difference

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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

Thanks Guys for the advise! I'm picking up a Nav V tomorrow morning from my local BM dealer.
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Good luck, if you go online you can pick up some cheap screen protectors to and it will definitely help keep the screen looking tip top.
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If you just bought it new, you should get a Nav 5 free with the bike as BMW is having a special deal until the end of the year. I just got mine with the bike at no charge.
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True. I bought a new 2014 R1200RT last week and I'm waiting for delivery of my NAV V.

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I used to think that the BMW labeled devices were all hyped-up junk...but after buying the Garmin 590LM and having nothing but trouble seeing the screen i sold it when I got the new 2016 GS.......I got the Nav V on the GS and what a difference. I can see the screen in all lighting conditions...THis is the first BMW add-on I have ever bought that is really a significant advancement over after market...

The 590LM, although design for Motorcycles is worthless in some daytime conditions...It did have some really great function when traveling on long trips with gas stops and other waypoints, but it does not compare to the Nav V screen.....I am really a happy camper now..Glad I got it

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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

The 590 has a transflective Reflective vs. Transflective Displays display so the more direct light the better! (get it out of the shade on your RTLC). It also has a backlight for these overcast days, but its not as bright as my old 660.
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The 590 has a Transflective screen so the more sunlight the better! (get it out of the shade).
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Re: Garmin 660 or BMW Nav V.

I can confirm the Zumo 660 is form and plug compatible with the GPS mount on a '16 wethead RT. I've road tested it.

What's not clear to me is whether the 590-series is form and plug compatible. Of course the added four button mount is excluded from determining compatibility.

Agreed that the 660 does not respond to the wheel. IMNSHO no loss - I really, really, really dislike the wheel as much as I dislike the I-Control and its siblings in cars. Both the wheel and single-knob control take my eyes off the road for far too long. Not Good
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