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post #1 of 38 Old Mar 27th, 2015, 4:04 pm Thread Starter
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Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I am upgrading from my Multitec of over 8 years and not sure which one to consider. I am pretty set on Shoei as a brand. Trying to reduce internal noise and weight (if possible).

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I certainly like my Shoei but cannot comment on the models as I have not tried others. I do hear good things about Arai also. I stick with Snell approval
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I am upgrading from my Multitec of over 8 years and not sure which one to consider. I am pretty set on Shoei as a brand. Trying to reduce internal noise and weight (if possible).

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I own a Shoei Neotec as well as a Shoei RF-1200. I like both helmets, however I do prefer the Neotec's modular design.
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The Neotec is hands down the best helmet I've ever owned.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

Have you tried on a GT Air yet? If you have and you liked it, I'd say go for it. If not, definitely try before you buy. The tight neck roll that reduces noise also makes it a bear to put on/take off. Felt like my ears were being torn off.
I tried a Neotec and loved it. 12k miles so far and still love it. It's probably noisier than the GT Air but I'm okay with that.


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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I have been committed to Shoei since 1994 as they have been the only helmets to fit my head, right out of the box.

Sadly none of the full face (including Multitec) have been particularly light or particularly quiet. Multitec is 3lbs 15oz, GT Air is 3 lbs 13 5/8oz and the Neotec is 3lbs 15 3/4oz (large sizes).

Between the GT Air and the Neotec, the GT Air is more quiet, actually quite quiet compared to either my Multitec or my RF 1100. Unless you need the flip up feature the GT Air is pretty nice.

If you can get a fit in either Shark or Schuberth you may be able to achieve both light weight and quiet as well as a well made helmet.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I have a NeoTech and am happy with it. After the MultiTech it replaced, it's the most comfortable helmet I've ever owned.

I buy helmets based on fit, not on specifications. Years ago (like in the 80's) I did not fit Shoei at all, in fact I purchased one and ended up giving it to the kid down the street. Nowadays either Shoei has changed their target shape or I have, because they fit me the best of anything I've tried - Nolan, Schuberth, HJC, Arai, and probably others.

You want noise reduction? Wear earplugs.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

Thank you!!! Sounds like the Neotec is the best bet, especially going from the Multitec. I do like the new features that I currently do not have.

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Thank you!!! Sounds like the Neotec is the best bet, especially going from the Multitec. I do like the new features that I currently do not have.

Thanks again for the prompt reply!
FWIW, I found that my NeoTec initially fit just a bit tighter than the MultiTec did, and took a bit longer to break in. Not nearly enough to change sizes, though after a bit you might want to change cheekpads.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

Went to a Neotec from a Multitec when the Neos had just come out and couldn't be happier. Quiet? Not so much, but as others have said, that's what earplugs are for.
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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

My current lid is a schuberth c3.
I've had it for quite a while now and I'm thinking of getting the new c3 pro.
Anyone here with the c3 pro?
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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I have the GT Air. Before that I had the RF1100. I think the GT is a great helmet. It's super quiet and the flip down tinted visor is great.

That being said, I've had the GT for nearly a year and for some reason I get pain when I wear it with ear plugs. Remove the plugs and all is good. That's just me though. It's a great helmet in my opinion. Super quiet compared compared to my 1100.




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+1 for Neotech. Fit is great for me, good airflow, features. Quiet? Not the best but acceptable. I swapped cheek pads for a perfect fit.
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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

wah, something I can contribute to! [I'm a vmax driver shopping for more range]

My wife and I bought GT-Airs one or two seasons ago. I didn't think I'd like the built in shade, but being able to flip it up and down during the ride is extremely cool. it did fit like a vice for the first month, but has broken in fine. There is still alittle wind noise at certain head angles, but adding a roll of ballistic puddy to the top of the visor totaly fixed that.

So I've happy with the GT-Air, but had the Neotec been available at the time I might have gotten it because drinking from a hydration pack is a major pain with full face.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

If quietness is the issue, the GT Air. Neotec not too bad in that department but also very convenient.


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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

I love my Neotec. Most comfortable helmet I've ever worn. Of course the GT air is also nice but I haven't worn one but have friends who have em. They love theirs as much as I do mine.
Question is if you want to have the modular capability or not. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

Currently I have a MultiTech that is coming up for replacement.

When I replace it - I will probably switch to the NeoTech, as it is a system (modular/flip) helmet. Also that Shoei is the only helmet manufacturer that fits my head helps!

My opinion is that if you want a chin piece that can be lifted (and a Shoei) then you are rather limited in your options. For me when I travel into the UK I need to be able to show my face, either by lifting the chin piece of taking the helmet off, to prove who I am. However this has the drawback of being noisier than the regular full face helmets.

It all depends on what is important to you. Work out what is important to you, what fits you the best etc.

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Re: Which One? Neotec or GT-Air?

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I am upgrading from my Multitec of over 8 years and not sure which one to consider. I am pretty set on Shoei as a brand. Trying to reduce internal noise and weight (if possible).

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I faced the same decision a while back! If internal noise and helmet weight is your absolute priority, then it has to be the GT-Air (based on reviews). I went for the Neotec because I wanted the flexibility of a modular helmet.

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Just as an FYI Shoei is introducing the shield that changes with the brightness of the sun. Bell had the same manufacturer make theirs and it works great. A bunch of my riding pals have it and swear it is the best thing they have ever had on a helmet. So what I am getting at is that little flip down part in the GT-Air is just added weight if a sun shield is a feature you want.

I am helmet shopping right now also and ruled out the GT Air for the RF1200 due to the light changing shield option. I am looking for a little more touring style helmet and I liked the RF1000's I had which is why I am looking into the RF1200.

From my experience I have never had good luck sound wise with any modular helmet, I stick to full face. I have owned/own Arai Corsair V, Arai Corsair RX-7, Bell Star, Shoei RF1000(x2), Shark RSR2, a couple Scorpions and I think I am missing some other ones but oh well. So if you want any help with any of those brands I would be happy to help.

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Just as an FYI Shoei is introducing the shield that changes with the brightness of the sun. Bell had the same manufacturer make theirs and it works great. A bunch of my riding pals have it and swear it is the best thing they have ever had on a helmet. So what I am getting at is that little flip down part in the GT-Air is just added weight if a sun shield is a feature you want. .......
Just one important caution with that feature - if you expected to ride into tunnels at all, you may want to rethink the light sensitive shield feature. They don't change fast enough to handle going from bright sunshine into (relative) darkness! It's very easy to flip up the shade of the built-in visor for such situations, but if the light-sensitive shade is fixed, you can end up losing good vision for more than a minute!

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Just one important caution with that feature - if you expected to ride into tunnels at all, you may want to rethink the light sensitive shield feature. They don't change fast enough to handle going from bright sunshine into (relative) darkness! It's very easy to flip up the shade of the built-in visor for such situations, but if the light-sensitive shade is fixed, you can end up losing good vision for more than a minute!
Agreed, we ride the blue ridge and part of the smokies every year and run into those tunnels but you are in and out of them so fast that your eyes barely get to even adjust.

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I recently went to the RF1200 and am very happy with it as well.

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Anyone here with the c3 pro?
I have a c3. I just purchased a c3pro. Have not rode with it yet. I am in the process of installing speakers in the helmet just like I did on the c3. I can only say for now the fit is better than the c3. As soon as I finish the speakers install and get some time riding send me a pm for updates incase I forget to post. By the way if anyone is looking for the quietest and lightest helmet in the market the c3pro is your best bet. Assuming your head shape will fit. Some say Schuberth helmets are over priced. I say what price does one put on their head. Too add one more thing, I still have my multitech helmet although no longer use it. Definitely heavier than my c3.

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I am upgrading from my Multitec of over 8 years and not sure which one to consider. I am pretty set on Shoei as a brand. Trying to reduce internal noise and weight (if possible).

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If you want less noise and weight a Schuberth c3 or c3pro will fit your preference.

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I have a c3. I just purchased a c3pro. Have not rode with it yet. I am in the process of installing speakers in the helmet just like I did on the c3. I can only say for now the fit is better than the c3. As soon as I finish the speakers install and get some time riding send me a pm for updates incase I forget to post. By the way if anyone is looking for the quietest and lightest helmet in the market the c3pro is your best bet. Assuming your head shape will fit. Some say Schuberth helmets are over priced. I say what price does one put on their head. Too add one more thing, I still have my multitech helmet although no longer use it. Definitely heavier than my c3.
Today I tried a C3Pro, it feels much lighter than my Multitech. Fit is subjective, but it fit my head just as well as my Shoei; maybe a bit less padding around the cheeks. Even thought the Shoei is less than a year old, I am seriously considering a C3Pro purchase.

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Today I tried a C3Pro, it feels much lighter than my Multitech. Fit is subjective, but it fit my head just as well as my Shoei; maybe a bit less padding around the cheeks. Even thought the Shoei is less than a year old, I am seriously considering a C3Pro purchase.

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My rt is wired. No Bluetooth. What I did was bought a computer headset with microphone. I looked for a thin set of speakers. I carefully removed the speakers and wiring out of the headband and discarded the microphone. Then installed them in the helmet cutouts and ran the wiring under the padding. The speaker cord is long enough so if I step off the bike I still have slack. This worked out very good for my c3. My c3pro will have the same setup. Should be completed in the next day or so. I purchased the speakers at best buy for $15.00. I already did a test run on the sound and they sound good.

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Here are two photos of my speaker installation. UPDATE: Just finished installing the speakers in the helmet. It went easy. Sounds just as good as my c3 install.
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I have a Multi-tec and love the flexibility of the modular helmet. It is comfortable so I don't feel like I need to take it off at gas stations but only have to flip up for the fresh air. I am pining for a Neo-tec or C3 Pro as that internal sun shield looks like it would be very convenient. From what I read the C3 Pro is supposed to be fairly quiet, especially for a modular. Love the modular warts and all, don't think I will ever go back to the full face.

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I have a Multi-tec and love the flexibility of the modular helmet. It is comfortable so I don't feel like I need to take it off at gas stations but only have to flip up for the fresh air. I am pining for a Neo-tec or C3 Pro as that internal sun shield looks like it would be very convenient. From what I read the C3 Pro is supposed to be fairly quiet, especially for a modular. Love the modular warts and all, don't think I will ever go back to the full face.
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GT-Air. I got one last year. Really good for sound quality. Much better than my old helmet so it made me happy. Shoei also came with an anti fog lens that works really well when it gets colder out. I have an XL. It doesn't want to share the top case with another full face.
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Howdy,
For the past 2 years I have had good experience with the Neotec. It is a bit noisy on a non-fared bike or even one that has a good windshield, i.e. GSA. The Neotec is difficult to beat for versatility and features.

Just ordered a GT-Air and believe this should be quieter behind the windshield and faring of my new 2014 RT. We shall see.
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I prefer modular so if it was me.... either the Neo (which I have) or the C3 Pro. I went with the Neo because I got a screaming deal, but really liked the C3-Pro.
Here is the thing and I'm surprised nobody mentioned it... The Neo is quiet provided the vents are all closed, BUT if you open ANY of them, you can forget any gain you got by buying a high end lid. It DOES FLOW a great deal of air with the vents open and therefore is comfy in hot weather. I CANNOT speak to the C3 noise with vents open so maybe someone will sound off on that.
Either way both great lids IMO
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I went with the GT-Air and love it, but I had a HJC before and there is no comparison.


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Here are two photos of my speaker installation. UPDATE: Just finished installing the speakers in the helmet. It went easy. Sounds just as good as my c3 install.
Can you provide feedback on the fit of the C3 Pro vs. the C3? I have a C3 in large and it is just a bit too snug, even with the newer liner option. I would consider trying a large C3 Pro if it offers a bit more room. I'm concerned that an XL might be too big. Please comment on the fit difference if you can.
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Can you provide feedback on the fit of the C3 Pro vs. the C3? I have a C3 in large and it is just a bit too snug, even with the newer liner option. I would consider trying a large C3 Pro if it offers a bit more room. I'm concerned that an XL might be too big. Please comment on the fit difference if you can.
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Yes I can. My C3 was a large. It fit snug. I read on the forums that they all fit a bit snug but after several hours of riding they break in rather nicely. True. I then purchased a C3Pro in large as well. Initial fit was very nice and comfortable. Much better than the C3 for first time fit. It appears that the C3Pro requires no breaking in. Both helmets are very good helmets. I had a multitec before the C3. Big difference. Lighter, quieter and more comfortable. The C3Pro is an improvement over the C3. Remember everyone has a different fit due to head shape so this is based on my head shape and helmet size. Previous helmets I wore a medium size. For some reason the Schuberth helmets for me requires a large to fit properly. If I were you go to a dealer and try them on for size. The C3Pro will or should fit noticiably better. Mine did and I was pleased. As far as being more quiet than the C3? I did not notice any difference. Hope that helps.

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Yes I can. My C3 was a large. It fit snug. I read on the forums that they all fit a bit snug but after several hours of riding they break in rather nicely. True. I then purchased a C3Pro in large as well. Initial fit was very nice and comfortable. Much better than the C3 for first time fit. It appears that the C3Pro requires no breaking in. Both helmets are very good helmets. I had a multitec before the C3. Big difference. Lighter, quieter and more comfortable. The C3Pro is an improvement over the C3. Remember everyone has a different fit due to head shape so this is based on my head shape and helmet size. Previous helmets I wore a medium size. For some reason the Schuberth helmets for me requires a large to fit properly. If I were you go to a dealer and try them on for size. The C3Pro will or should fit noticiably better. Mine did and I was pleased. As far as being more quiet than the C3? I did not notice any difference. Hope that helps.
Thanks for that input. Just what i was looking for!

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One thing about Schubert helmets that I have found among multiple users, not just me: They take a long time to break in and fit properly. I positively hated my C3 for about 3 months, and the stupid plastic thing branding my forehead was quickly grabbed with my pliers and pulled out of the helmet. Got tired of the "Mark of Schuberth" . Love it now, and would replace the C3 with the C3-Pro when the time comes. Probably be a C4 before that though.

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