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Dunno. But I'm willing to wager on who'll cross 100K miles first . . .
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I would not even know what a record lightweight would mean, i.e., compared to what? It is not likely to be lighter than the current GT, but lighter than LT and Wing (I assume).
The current 'Wing comes in at over 900 lbs ready to ride. And the "sportier" ST13 weighs in at well over 700 lbs.

The LT weighs in at over 800 lbs ready to ride. The GT drops that to just over 600 lbs. So there's a huge middle range to play with in there and still have a sublimely comfortable, extremely well handling sport-tourer (with equal emphasis on both personalities).

I scoffed at the original LT based on specs alone, but the first time I rode one it easily out-handled and out-powered my old K100LT. I was sold.

I imagine the K1600 will do just the same, once I actually get a chance to ride one for myself . . .
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In typical BMW fashion, they tease us with some high style video clips which showcase some techys ability to create the wow factor
And they've done that very well, as we're all still talking and drooling over what little we do know.

Methinks someone at BMW has been watching Apple very closely . . .
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It is interesting how they tucked the clutch in and upward. It could definitely lend room to move your feet forward.
They did that to minimize overall engine width, even with an extra couple of cylinders tacked on. Even the water pump has been moved lower and further in, probably so they could tuck the engine that much closer to the DuoLever to improve front/rear weight bias.

I do like your suggestion of the exposed engine making it easier to fit highway pegs though . . .
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Whatever floats your boat.
Hey, sometimes the best/twistiest roads just happen to be a couple of states away . . .
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Dip stick as apposed to sight glass. good to see
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I found an old article putting the weight of the K1200 engine at 186lb, which would make the K1600 engine 40lbs heavier.
I suspect that is sans the K12's transmission (and maybe the intermediate housing, too). With the 6 cyl's integrated gear box, I'd wager that drivetrain-to-drivetrain, the 6 package is overall lighter.

Another $0.02 to fuel the speculation
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the new 55-degree K1200S/R/GT engine.
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the new 55-degree K1200S/R/GT engine.
Well, duh! -- I guess that's proof I'm a flying brick-centric guy

40 lbs for two additional cylinders/pistons/crank throws/longer cams and more valve gear, plus integration of the oil tank -- sounds reasonable to me.
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Well, duh! -- I guess that's proof I'm a flying brick-centric guy

40 lbs for two additional cylinders/pistons/crank throws/londer cams and more valve gear, plus integration of the oil tank -- sounds reasonable to me.
And minus the balance shafts.

I would be curious what a brick+clutch+transmission would come in at. Considering that the dry weight of a K1200S is 82 lbs less than a K1200RS, I'll bet the brick combo is significantly heavier.
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And minus the balance shafts.

I would be curious what a brick+clutch+transmission would come in at. Considering that the dry weight of a K1200S is 82 lbs less than a K1200RS, I'll bet the brick combo is significantly heavier.
Good Q -- not sure it woud be much, though -- the brick K12 frames are huge compared to the wedge K's, and I gotta believe the Duolever's linkage is quite a bit lighter than the Telelever's swingarm (when I replaced the telelever arm on my '05 LT, I was surprised by how heavy it was when it was off the bike).
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I was just thinking... Andy, David and I should get a dollar from kdog and the other doubters at this point
6-cylinder BMW Tourer?

Oh and David Taylor owes Andy a beer
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... Methinks someone at BMW has been watching Apple very closely . . .
Too bad nobody at BMW "just happened" to leave one of these new models laying around...
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Too bad nobody at BMW "just happened" to leave one of these new models laying around...
Well, there is that gas station pic, but that's about it so far . . .
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I even look to see if someone left a prototype on the table after one of those Pie runs...

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I know ya'll want one..
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Any comments about there being possibly no more central locking if the cases are removable ?.
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Re: The new K1600GT and K1600GTL

For what it´s worth I have been given the following information by someone who yesterday had a meeting with the BMW Motorad rep in Spain.

They told him that they are going to launch the GT / GTL1600 next year, the GTL being the one with all the options etc.

BUT they still have plans to launch an LT based on the GT but with more bodywork, but not until at least 2013/14

Makes sense as far as I am concerned. Will talk in 3 years !.
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BUT they still have plans to launch an LT based on the GT but with more bodywork, but not until at least 2013/14

Makes sense as far as I am concerned. Will talk in 3 years !.
Makes sense to me too. Just from some of the comments on this forum, it appears some riders are concerned that the GTL is going to lean too much to the sporty side.
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Makes sense to me too. Just from some of the comments on this forum, it appears some riders are concerned that the GTL is going to lean too much to the sporty side.
Funny thing is, most of the comments on K-Bikes.com and other sites show concern that the GT and GTL are leaning too far to the overweight Luxo-touring side . . .

I still say that none of us has anything more than conjecture at this point, not until we see and ride one for ourselves.
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Funny thing is, most of the comments on K-Bikes.com and other sites show concern that the GT and GTL are leaning too far to the overweight Luxo-touring side . . .
Yep, that's certainly not the main concern with this crowd, is it?!

Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is obsessing about the weight issue. If you had something that weighed the same as the LT, but had a lower COG and 160hp and piles of torque, why would weight be such a concern? Is an extra 50-100lbs going to slow it down?!
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Yep, that's certainly not the main concern with this crowd, is it?!
It's all just a matter of perspective, isn't it?

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Is an extra 50-100lbs going to slow it down?!
Hey man, I've been trying to exercise and eat better . . .
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Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is obsessing about the weight issue. If you had something that weighed the same as the LT, but had a lower COG and 160hp and piles of torque, why would weight be such a concern? Is an extra 50-100lbs going to slow it down?!
Bruce, you are right on the money in mind. To me it comes down to how it handles (and some bikes hide their weight very well). It becomes even more mindboggling when you think about what people at times carry with them (if one wants to go really light, get a truly light bike and ultra-light equipment or tour by credit card (i.e., hotels)).

An observation. As far as I am concerned, BMW is one of the few truly advanced engineering companies and they will do whatever they can, I am sure, to minimize weight and maximize performance (what could make anyone think they do not care about these two aspects???).

BMW have done very well in the past as far as I am concerned, and I have big hopes they will succeed with this one. In fact, looking at the large bikes in the fleet, they seem to have succeeded in many ways:
- K1200R and K1200S have gotten great reviews, nominated and won several bike of they year awards over the last five years, and the K1300R and K1300s are great bikes (but the K-R are not a sale success it seems).
- R1200RT continues to be considered one of the best tourers out there, even compared to much faster machines... the K1200/1300GT has been the obvious highend choice if speed is your thing (at least until the Kawa C14 came).
- R1200GS, well no need to say a lot about this one... it is the benchmark everyone measures against
- F800GS seems to be another major hit
- S1000RR - everyone is raving about this one, and appears to be a gamechanger
- The HPs series... incredible bikes... but pricey. More bang for the buck can be found elsewhere... but they seem to be technically really good (even though there is a fuel gauge issue with the Megamoto).
- ... I stop here... you get the drift..
Yes these bikes sometimes weigh a bit more than the competition, but technology is not weightless....

This forum is great... but can't we wait with criticism and negativism wrt BMW or the K1600GT/GTL platform until there is something to found that criticism/negativity on? After all, we do not know that much yet. I for one am excited about what they are doing... Will it be the perfect bike in my mind? Probably not. Will I be able to build something better myself - most likely not.... Do I see something something similar among the competitors? No, not yet.

Of course, to some the glass can be half full or half empty.... but I am optimistic.

Also, when it comes to the FD. BMW uses belts, chains, and FD. Thus, they seem perfectly happy to use the technology they find to be the best. Thus, if they think that FD is the way to go, I trust that choice (but no technology is without fault or free of faults...)

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Well, there is that gas station pic, but that's about it so far . . .
Come on now Ken, I think that is you with your back to the camera in thet gas station picture....

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I know I don' t post too often, but a contact in NJ sent me a prototype pic showing some of the advanced technology that DID NOT make in to the new K1600 GT/GTL.


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1- The new "frame-over" engineering, utilizes the airbox and nos 1 & 6 sparkplug wires as stressed members and completely eliminates the need for a rear subframe. The shown Gen 1 touring saddle, was reportedly 200 % more comfortable than the 2005+ LT stock seat.

2-The revolutionary front suspension ( tele-para-erecto-setto) with its "canta-lever/canta-steera" single side arm axle, eliminates all bar buzz & road vibration, as well as any desire to turn. The front shock is accessible thru an optional under the tank bag, and makes "on the fly" suspension adjustments a breeze ( pre-ESA technology)

3-The hi-flo/gravity fed fuel system requires no electric fuel pump. Based on early "water-closet hydro-fluid-falling-further" principals. this system, while producing 18 psi of fuel pressure, does require inflight refueling from a suitable military tanker plane.

4-The frame mounted headlights, are "non-adaptive" ( to darkness) as engine vibration has been able to reduce bulb filament life to .25 seconds ( or 1500 rpm, which ever comes first. )

5- the "no side arm" rear drive, uses a titanium-viagra-reinforced chain, whose links lock up completely ridged, until "de locked" by the reverse-polarity rear sprocket, allowing the chain to rotate/drive the sprocket, before returning to rigid swing arm functionality.

6- And my favorite, "EFB" ( exhaust force braking) technology , produces 380 lbs of reverse thrust, allowing the bike to use a single disc brake. The linked brake controls, working in sync with the ECU, disengage the clutch and spin the engine to max rpms, when ever braking controls are activited. Superheating the front tire also extracts maximun traction from the single-disc front tire.


.I am not sure about the riding ergonomics, but apparently the "standing-sport-riding-forward" position was first used successfully by the 1961 Olympic German Ski Jumping team. Combining GS "on the pegs" riding tactics with "leaning into the wind" ski-flying aerodynamics was designed to eliminate the need for any protective fairing. Service access would be greatly improved as well......hmmmmmm....

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Yup, see bunchs of yamatech showing in that abortion of a M/C
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Yes and no. That's what the ASC traction control is for, and it works very well on the 152hp K1200GT.
It also works very nicely on the S1000RR. Set the system to "rain" mode and nothing happens when you whack the throttle leaned in a curve. The gyros and ASC are an outstanding combination. The beast just goes like a rocket sled ride. The preliminaries on the K1600 TCS appear to be identical to that system less the track mode.

For those of you who have not experienced S1000RR and its technology, the first two words that usually are spoken after a test ride are "Holy Crap !!!" The K16's should be equally awe-inspiring.
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It also works very nicely on the S1000RR.
That's good to hear. Except instead of a "Track" mode, I'd like to see an "Economy" mode. I do a lot of miles, and being able to set the bike to "Frugal" while traversing endless interstates would come in very handy.

Just leave the "Holy Crap" mode alone for the times when that's what I need . . .
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the gtl is not the replacement for the lt ? and we will have to wait 3-4 years for an lt really??
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the gtl is not the replacement for the lt ? and we will have to wait 3-4 years for an lt really??
The GTL is the current replacement for the LT.

Give it another couple of years, and we may see an even more Luxurious LT replacement.
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Not sure about the frugal mode, but did hear of the Fräulein mode.. Two appendages come out of a secret compartment to JAB in riders ribs when full throttle is used..
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I know I don' t post too often, but a contact in NJ sent me a prototype pic showing some of the advanced technology that DID NOT make in to the new K1600 GT/GTL.


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Service access would be greatly improved as well......hmmmmmm....
Kinda looks like your driveway......is that your seventh bike?
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This my favorite line from the motorcycle.com article:

[b]Shaft drive in the form of BMW’s tried and true Paralever swingarm gets the 6-cylinder mill’s power to the rear wheel. Ha!

I continue to struggle with why they push the single sided swing arm idea despite the extra complexity and longevity issues for a bike that 99 times out of 100 is going to be in a garage when the rear wheel is removed.

Still, I'm sure it will be on my short list of next bikes.
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Well it looks like no one knows really what the new beast will look like. I found this looking around for some info.
http://www.ridergroups.com/wp-conten.../k1600-lt1.png
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Well it looks like no one knows really what the new beast will look like. I found this looking around for some info.
http://www.ridergroups.com/wp-conten.../k1600-lt1.png
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Highly doubt it. I think this has been floating around for a while...just some artists guess done before the announcement of the engine configuration.
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Well it looks like no one knows really what the new beast will look like.
Correct. And anything that you do find out there is probably just wrong. Especially that old photoshop mockup that's been passed around repeatedly over the last couple of years . . .
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Correct. And anything that you do find out there is probably just wrong. Especially that old photoshop mockup that's been passed around repeatedly over the last couple of years . . .

Is this it?

http://www.motoplus.nl/Frontend/news.php?page_id=4762
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By George I think he's got it.

This is much better spy pics of the new bikes than the LA one. You can see the new headlight config on both versions and clearly make out the differences on the GT versus the GTL. All three bikes are definitely on site stands, and I do like the looks of the seat on the GTL.
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To make it visible, from that same site:



And a drawing based on earlier published scoops:
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Interesting that they have what appears to be accessory lighting mounted on the bikes.
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Anyone else think those fins or vents on the fairings look fake? In some of the photos, there is actually 4 new ones in all, it looks like the fins may be a sticker or decal. On top of that, the fairing is above the motor, what are they venting? I am thinking the fairing willbe smooth with the roundel in its normal place
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Interesting that they have what appears to be accessory lighting mounted on the bikes.
Yeah, I noticed that, too... you wouldn't think so, given that hell of an adaptive lighting


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On top of that, the fairing is above the motor, what are they venting?
It's a water cooled engine, dude

They're venting the radiators, not the engine. Just like for the LT, in case you didn't notice
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The new style mirrors don't look like they'll bounce off either.
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To make it visible, from that same site:



And a drawing based on earlier published scoops:
well...if this is the replacement for the LT,, im not happy ,,and im sure a few S.O wont like it either,,,,it looks like a fancy GT
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well...if this is the replacement for the LT,, im not happy ,,and im sure a few S.O wont like it either,,,,it looks like a fancy GT
+1

I'm hoping that the final bike will be much more LT-like.
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I'm hoping that the final bike will be much more LT-like.
See this post.

Personally, this is the bike I've been waiting for BMW to build. As comfortable two-up as an LT, but much less useless weight and much more useable horsepower.

Trust me, when you lose 200 unnecessary pounds, you don't miss things like reverse and hydraulic center stands and all that nonsense. And when you gain 50 Hp and a ton more torque, you no longer have to worry about slipping the clutch to get moving or downshifting to pass. And when you add the two together, you simply forget about dodgy low-speed maneuverability, finding the perfect parking place, or whether or not you can right the thing if you happen to drop it.

It simply no longer matters, as you just ride the bike and smile.
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I've been trying to figure out why I don't like the color combination on the spy shot...

I think I figured it out:





(think we can get BMW to put a "Screamin' Chicken" decal on the front?)
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I'm just the opposite -- I'll be thrilled with this: R12RT size, as good/better weather protection, straight-6 smoothness, good seat height, essentially the same luggage capacity as my R12RT -- sign me up! (oh, wait -- my dealer already has )
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Interesting that they have what appears to be accessory lighting mounted on the bikes.
Yes, but it seems the accessory lights are mounted differently - right side light is on the fairing, left side light is on... the caliper (?) like many LT Motolight installations. Or am I holding my head the wrong way when I look at the picture?
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