Originally Posted by Bruce_Yates
Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is obsessing about the weight issue. If you had something that weighed the same as the LT, but had a lower COG and 160hp and piles of torque, why would weight be such a concern? Is an extra 50-100lbs going to slow it down?!
Bruce, you are right on the money in mind. To me it comes down to how it handles (and some bikes hide their weight very well). It becomes even more mindboggling when you think about what people at times carry with them (if one wants to go really light, get a truly light bike and ultra-light equipment or tour by credit card (i.e., hotels)).
An observation. As far as I am concerned, BMW is one of the few truly advanced engineering companies and they will do whatever they can, I am sure, to minimize weight and maximize performance (what could make anyone think they do not care about these two aspects???).
BMW have done very well in the past as far as I am concerned, and I have big hopes they will succeed with this one. In fact, looking at the large bikes in the fleet, they seem to have succeeded in many ways:
- K1200R and K1200S have gotten great reviews, nominated and won several bike of they year awards over the last five years, and the K1300R and K1300s are great bikes (but the K-R are not a sale success it seems).
- R1200RT continues to be considered one of the best tourers out there, even compared to much faster machines... the K1200/1300GT has been the obvious highend choice if speed is your thing (at least until the Kawa C14 came).
- R1200GS, well no need to say a lot about this one... it is the benchmark everyone measures against
- F800GS seems to be another major hit
- S1000RR - everyone is raving about this one, and appears to be a gamechanger
- The HPs series... incredible bikes... but pricey. More bang for the buck can be found elsewhere... but they seem to be technically really good (even though there is a fuel gauge issue with the Megamoto).
- ... I stop here... you get the drift..
Yes these bikes sometimes weigh a bit more than the competition, but technology is not weightless....
This forum is great... but can't we wait with criticism and negativism wrt BMW or the K1600GT/GTL platform until there is something to found that criticism/negativity on? After all, we do not know that much yet. I for one am excited about what they are doing... Will it be the perfect bike in my mind? Probably not. Will I be able to build something better myself - most likely not.... Do I see something something similar among the competitors? No, not yet.
Of course, to some the glass can be half full or half empty.... but I am optimistic.
Also, when it comes to the FD. BMW uses belts, chains, and FD. Thus, they seem perfectly happy to use the technology they find to be the best. Thus, if they think that FD is the way to go, I trust that choice (but no technology is without fault or free of faults...)