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Hi Guys, just bought an LT, and no sooner had I got it home the dreaded trunk latch snapped at the corner (Bugger!). I live in the UK and was wondering if anyone knows if a replacement is available here. Tried to repair it with Araldite metal epoxy and some metal reinforcing strips but it hasn't worked. Thanks in advance to anyone with helpful info.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

there there is a vendor on the homepage LTtrunk latch . Com, that has repair kits,

good lucK! post pictures and a story about your repair
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there there is a vendor on the homepage LTtrunk latch . Com, that has repair kits,

good lucK! post pictures and a story about your repair
And his is better quality than the OEM latch! Not cheap, but worth it. And cheaper than the whole Trunk, which I believe is what BMW would try to sell you.

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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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Hi Guys, just bought an LT, and no sooner had I got it home the dreaded trunk latch snapped at the corner (Bugger!). I live in the UK and was wondering if anyone knows if a replacement is available here. Tried to repair it with Araldite metal epoxy and some metal reinforcing strips but it hasn't worked. Thanks in advance to anyone with helpful info.
the vendor does not recommend it but I used the fix it before it breaks kit to put everything together in the right place/alignment and then epoxied it also reinforcing it, has
been OK

the assy needs to be lubricated which is as far as I am concerned the main problem why it does break, it probably stays cleaner dry but eventually to much friction
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I was afraid of having what happened to you happen to me, so I bought a "Fix-it-Before-It-Breaks" kit from the sponsor vendor. It is expensive (not like the "fix it after you broke it" version though), but is very well made and I don't anticipate ever needing to repair the latch now. Good luck on your project, if you haven't fixed it yet...!!
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

The latch assembly is not available without the trunk assembly. Might check E-bay. The fix-it-after-it-breaks kits are a quality product.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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The latch assembly is not available without the trunk assembly. Might check E-bay. The fix-it-after-it-breaks kits are a quality product.


Thanks so much for all your replies. I think I may have to just bite the bullet and buy the replacement latch. Hopefully he will ship to the UK
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Yes, the trunk latch kit is the go, excellent quality product. I fitted the "fix it before it breaks" kit to my '05, but the real answer is to keep the whole linkage system lubricated, including the 2 latch dogs where they slide over the pins and to apply downward pressure on the lid with 1 hand when opening & closing. The whole latch system has a nicer feel to it once the latch kit is installed. Very poor piece of OEM engineering, I always wonder if BMW let this type of thing out to others (suppliers).
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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Yes, the trunk latch kit is the go, excellent quality product. I fitted the "fix it before it breaks" kit to my '05, but the real answer is to keep the whole linkage system lubricated, including the 2 latch dogs where they slide over the pins and to apply downward pressure on the lid with 1 hand when opening & closing. The whole latch system has a nicer feel to it once the latch kit is installed. Very poor piece of OEM engineering, I always wonder if BMW let this type of thing out to others (suppliers).

If they had been a bit more shrewd BMW could have made good money with a replacement kit! Fools! Ha Ha.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

I just installed the fix it before it breaks kit in my LT. I took off the trunk and put it upside down to install the kit. It went in without any problem and now the handle should last the lifetime of the bike....I hope. The only thing I would change with the kit, is to counter sink the screws so they don't stick out so much. They don't hit the painted part of the case but they are very close. I turned the heads on all the screws down a bit on my lathe and now the handle would rub on the case before the screws would.

The fix it before it breaks kit is a very nice piece of work, and very reasonable priced for the amount of machine required to make it.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

did your upper right or left corner break? i've been thinkin that it should be possible to make one good, re-inforced one out of two units with opposite corners broken?

there must be some bonding agent to hold two pieces of the latch together? and then make a plate with a hole in in for the key, and bondthat to the entire latch?
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

I just replaced my broken latch last night with the unit supplied from the vendor on this forum. It is CNC routered billet aluminium, first class machining and was a doddle to put together.
The only messy parts were drilling out the old blind rivets and grinding away two little tabs. An hours job max and all done on the dining room table, as I've had the trunk off for a lighter bike.
Cannot recommend the part highly enough, however it is fairly dear.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

How long did it take to install the "Fix it before it breaks" units with and without the whole truck being removed?
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

+1 on the fix it before my SO with no fenesse breaks it latch kit.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

It took about an hour leaving the trunk on the bike, but very doable.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

I tried first by leaving it on the bike, but my old eyes and working upside down didn't work for me, so I ended up taking the trunk off. It was much easier doing it that way. I took my time, and if I had to do it again, I think it would take about 1.5 - 2 hours total, now that I know how to take off the trunk. The hardest part getting off the trunk was figuring out how the interior shell comes out. I have some vinyl pry bars from Harbor Freight that made it much easier to avoid chipping the paint near the edge by the latch... Have fun whichever way you go!
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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Hi Guys, just bought an LT, and no sooner had I got it home the dreaded trunk latch snapped at the corner (Bugger!). I live in the UK and was wondering if anyone knows if a replacement is available here. Tried to repair it with Araldite metal epoxy and some metal reinforcing strips but it hasn't worked. Thanks in advance to anyone with helpful info.
go to ascycles.com
you can buy a better part and do it yourself?
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Just by looking at the pictures, I am guessing ascycles is distributing the sponsor member product. As mentioned above, expensive but well built and much better than buying a new lower half of the trunk from BMW.
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+1 on the fix it before my SO with no fenesse breaks it latch kit.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Another happy "Fix It Before It Breaks" customer here. The kit is fantastic quality and comes with detailed instructions. Thanks Evan!
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Nothing better to remind you to buy the kit than another members latch breaking. Been meaning to order the kit and just did it now. It looks to be one of those either fix it now cheaply, or roll the dice and fix it for more later. I went with the cheap.

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And his is better quality than the OEM latch! Not cheap, but worth it. And cheaper than the whole Trunk, which I believe is what BMW would try to sell you.

John
+1, had mine replaced about 3 years ago, cost was around $ 340 but well worth it. That thing is near indestructible.
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Nothing better to remind you to buy the kit than another members latch breaking. Been meaning to order the kit and just did it now. It looks to be one of those either fix it now cheaply, or roll the dice and fix it for more later. I went with the cheap.

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+1, had mine replaced about 3 years ago, cost was around $ 340 but well worth it. That thing is near indestructible.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

He must be milling kits like crazy because I ordered mine on Monday of this week too. Must be spring fever and time to do some maintenance before riding season finally arrives (for those of us in the Wisconsin tundra)
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Thanks for the kind words, guys!! Yeah, there has been a spike in the "Fix It Before It Breaks" kits! And this topic explains that.

FYI, contrary to what has been mentioned here concerning the cause of failure of the BMW component, I'll explain.

Firstly, the OEM handle is a die-cast part. The material is a cheap zinc-like material. The design of the die-cast process for this part is just WRONG! There are major loads between two hinge locations that are only about 3/4 of an inch apart. YET the part hooks around and is connected to the very thin fascia. The reason for this is that the die-casting dies (VERY EXPENSIVE DIES) have a part of the mold that retracts. That is why the hook-shaped feature exists. If the two hinge locations were directly connected (as they are in my Replacement Handle), there would be no issue.

The other major problem is that the latching mechanism within the body of the lower trunk half was manufactured using a "progressive stamping" technique. It starts with a flat sheet and moves through a number of stages where shearing, punching, and forming occurs. THE problem is that the location tolerances of this process are not quite good enough for this application. There is excessive production variation, resulting in inconsistent loads on the closing mechanism--inconsistent from bike-to-bike, as well as side-to-side on a single bike.

Thanks again for the support over the years! I don't get rich from this little product at all, but it is a neat little niche business. And one more thing, the products sold by A&S are my products.

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One more satisfied fix it before it breaks customer. Works really well and seems to be more positive latching than before.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

I just received my " fix it before it breaks" kit earlier this week, it looks very well made. My latch doesn't show any signs of failure, but, again I don't want to worry about it breaking while on a trip. Just some preventive maintenance. I hope I can put it on next week.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Purchased Fix it Before it Breaks 2 years ago when I purchased the LT. Easy install and great kit to save hundreds in later repairs. If I had not found this forum with all of the wisdom from it's members this would have certainly been an expensive repair.
Quality product and thank you Evan for effort you put into the product!
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Thanks for the kind words, guys!! Yeah, there has been a spike in the "Fix It Before It Breaks" kits! And this topic explains that.
I'll add that about three years ago, after getting backed into by an oil tanker, I had a keep-it-or-ditch-it decision to make. It was a hard decision, but I chose to keep it. I knew at the time that my decision was for the long term, so it included the fix-it-before-it-breaks. I use my trunk every day and I am another happy customer. And during trips, when that trunck is fully loaded, with another bag loaded on top, the piece of mind offered by the strength of that latch is priceless!
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Did you use the replacement latch kit. If so. How hard is it to do?
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Did you use the replacement latch kit. If so. How hard is it to do?
As long as you haven't aleeady broken the latch handle you can use the "Fix It Before It Breaks" replacement kit. Takes a about an hour or two to replace. Very much worth the price Evan asks. Well engineered.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

Is it possible for the latch to break after the Fix is applied? Just wondering if this reduces the risk or completely prevents it from happening.
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Is it possible for the latch to break after the Fix is applied? Just wondering if this reduces the risk or completely prevents it from happening.
Sure, anything is possible. But none have broken to date...the kit adds substantial strength and rigidity.
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Sure, anything is possible. But none have broken to date...the kit adds substantial strength and rigidity.
I don't see the vendor list at the home page anymore. How do I order the FIBIB kit?
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

When closing the trunk, if you will press down on the top to compress the seal before latching, the parts easily slide into place. This takes the force off of the metal. I kept the stock latch and never felt the need to reinforce it.

Most of the time, because I kept so little in the trunk, I didn't latch it. I don't ever remember it flying up and that was after about 50 K miles and 8 years of daily riding.
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I don't see the vendor list at the home page anymore. How do I order the FIBIB kit?
It's in the Supporting Vendor forum - drill down thru the forums page for that. HTH.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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Sure, anything is possible. But none have broken to date...the kit adds substantial strength and rigidity.
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When closing the trunk, if you will press down on the top to compress the seal before latching, the parts easily slide into place. This takes the force off of the metal. I kept the stock latch and never felt the need to reinforce it.

Most of the time, because I kept so little in the trunk, I didn't latch it. I don't ever remember it flying up and that was after about 50 K miles and 8 years of daily riding.
I do the same and my wife remembers to do this most of the time. When we have the rack bag on top, that also helps a lot. I also removed the latches when the bike was fairly new and filed down the roughness from the latches so they wouldn't wear the pins so fast (they already had started to wear grooves in the pins). The smoother surface along with some grease lowered the latching effort substantially.

Still thinking that the FIBIB kit might be sound insurance.
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Re: K1200LT Trunk Latch

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I don't see the vendor list at the home page anymore. How do I order the FIBIB kit?
Here you go, main site http://www.lttrunklatch.com/
Fixit link, http://www.lttrunklatch.com/fix-it-b...-breaks--2.htm
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