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post #1 of 30 Old Jun 23rd, 2013, 7:50 am Thread Starter
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K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

There has to be a way to get around this imobilizer. Just stopped recognizing the fobs. The only way I can start the bike is the key turns matching the code on the card. I cannot get the unit to read or recognize the fobs. I have done the steps to sync and register, nothing is working. I want to deactivate this system. Please help.
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

You can bypass the entire alarm but you will loose the central locking feature.

Remove the top case and the panel underneath it. Top case locked you say? Ok insert key and turn 45 degrees, open top case.

Find the alarm and undo all the connectors. There are three – 2 pin, one -3 pin, one- 4 pin and one - 12 pin.

To get the bike running again you need to jumper the following pins on the 12 pin connector. Pin 3 (black/white/yellow) to pin 11 (black/yellow); this is the starter button signal to the starter relay. Then jumper pin 10 (green/violet, switched power) to pin pin 6 (blue/violet, engine electronics relay). Now the bike will start and run normally.

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Thanks for the help on this. I will get into this today. Have you ever seen this failure before? I am thinking the alarm system has to have a RF receiver in it that has gone bad.

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

I have 2006 K1200lt, love it, but tired of having to get the fob out and unlock the bike every time I shut it off like at a gas pump. How do I keep the anti theft, but only use when I turn it on. I don't want it to automatically engage EVERY time. It still responds to the fob but tired of using it all the time!!!
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

You did it, man. I love you As it was I had no central locking anyway as the module will not respond to fobs. It just happened. I parked the bike and the next time I tried to start it the module was dead. I am assuming the alarm/imobilizer is made up of these two parts: the small plastic Italian-made module with a 4-pin cable coming out, and the BMW unit with the alarm horn. The one of these units that reads the RF codes has to be bad. If I can determine which one I will replace, as I like things to work as they should.
The two jumpers have done it and I can ride, many many thanks for you help. I wish the dealer (many many miles away) could have been this helpful.

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If your bike is reading the fobs, you can go into programming and deactivate auto-arm. You should have an alarm supplement booklet with your owner's guide. If so look for the program instructions using key turn on, etc. Have your security code from the card handy....make sure you check your card's code. My card was in a sealed envelope, with additional code stickers on the envelope that did not match the card. You must peel off the foil covering the code. More secure than nuclear trigger locker on US SSN.
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

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I think we need one more jumper: turn signals/flasher does not work with 12-pin connector unplugged. When I remover my two jumpers and plug back in, turn signals work.
Any thoughts?
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

I thought so and used to say jump the Pin 2 Green wire to the pin 10 and pin 6 as it is a switched power lead to the flasher but that kept them on all the time(or at least some one had that issue). Give it a try and see what happens. Then let me know and I'll fix my documentation.

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Any idea if this will work for a '03?
In a real bind here
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Does the little red light on the fob flash on and off even if the fobs battery is flat ?.

My bike has been off the road for several months and due to the maintainer not working, I have had to install a new battery as it was a goner.

Everything works ( cases can be opened and closed, screen goes up and down, central stand goes up and down ) except that the motor turns over but won´t start, therefore I am wondering if it has something to do with the alarm.

If not, any suggestions would be appreciated, even asking me if there is fuel in the tank ( yes, but not much ).

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

If the light is flashing on the FOB when you press a button the batteries are still good, but may be on the way out. If you can lock and unlock the side cases with the FOB then the alarm is responding. An unlock press would also disable the immobilizer but it has to be done each time you cycle the key.

So I would suspect a fuel related issue. Check for pressure as a hose may have burst or come off in the tank.

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Any idea if this will work for a '03?
In a real bind here
Yes this will work on an 03:
To get the bike running again you need to jumper the following pins on the 12 pin connector. Pin 3 (black/white/yellow) to pin 11 (black/yellow); this is the starter button signal to the starter relay. Then jumper pin 10 (green/violet, switched power) to pin pin 6 (blue/violet, engine electronics relay). Now the bike will start and run normally.

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Thanks for your reply.

I did not make myself clear when I said the cases can be opened and closed. They can by hand, but not when using the alarm, which doesnt make a sound.

The fuse is also shorting ( no horn ), so it looks like it´s the dreaded alarm problem, as as you said a while back, the bike needs to be used and not parked.

So.........I will remove the top box and isolate the alarm as you have previously suggested.

Having a working alarm makes me feel that bit more relaxed, so if it is kaput, I will most probably install a new one.

Will keep you updated.
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Super. thanks! Fortunate for me, the person I bought it from contacted the original owner who still had the spare key and the spare transmitter in the original packaging!!! No need to jig the electronics. I figured the battery in the transmitter would be stone cold after 13 years, but it worked like new.

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To get the bike running again you need to jumper the following pins on the 12 pin connector. Pin 3 (black/white/yellow) to pin 11 (black/yellow); this is the starter button signal to the starter relay. Then jumper pin 10 (green/violet, switched power) to pin pin 6 (blue/violet, engine electronics relay). Now the bike will start and run normally.
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You can bypass the entire alarm but you will loose the central locking feature.

Remove the top case and the panel underneath it. Top case locked you say? Ok insert key and turn 45 degrees, open top case.

Find the alarm and undo all the connectors. There are three – 2 pin, one -3 pin, one- 4 pin and one - 12 pin.

To get the bike running again you need to jumper the following pins on the 12 pin connector. Pin 3 (black/white/yellow) to pin 11 (black/yellow); this is the starter button signal to the starter relay. Then jumper pin 10 (green/violet, switched power) to pin pin 6 (blue/violet, engine electronics relay). Now the bike will start and run normally.
John,

Are you saying that apart from undoing the 12 pin connector, I must also undo the other 5, in other words the 3 x 2 pins ones, the 1 x 3 pin one and the 1 x 4 pin one ?.

I do hope so as I only undid the 12 pin connector and the 15 amp fuse is still blowing, which has me really worried.

No computer where the bike is so I couldn´t check until I got home.

One thing that baffles me is that the turn signal lights don´t work when the 12 pin is disconnected but do when connected.

Do you think that they will work after I have jumped the pins ?

Which fuse are they on ?.

Whilst they were flashing I removed every fuse one by one in both boxes and they still kept on working.

Thanks,

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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

Another question.

How do you guys make sure the 2 jump wires stay in place ?.

As far as I can see there are no small screws to loosen to allow you to safely and securely attach the wires to the 12 pin connector.

Thanks in advance for any tips on how to do this.

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I thought so and used to say jump the Pin 2 Green wire to the pin 10 and pin 6 as it is a switched power lead to the flasher but that kept them on all the time(or at least some one had that issue). Give it a try and see what happens. Then let me know and I'll fix my documentation.
John,

Did Mark get back to you about this ?.

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Pin 2 is power from the alarm to the flasher in the 05 and up bikes and must jumpered to pins 6 and 10. On the pre 05 if you jumper pin 2 the lights are on all the time.

To stop the fuse from blowing just disconnect the three pin (green, red/white and brown wires). But the bike will not start unless you unplug the 12 pin and jumper the pins as stated.

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Thanks.

Mine is a 05

Will let you know how it goes.
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

OK, here is my latest news about disengaging the alarm and getting the bikes electrical system working again.

John, thanks, you are right about it being sufficient to unplug the the 3 pin connector to stop the 15 amp fuse blowing.

Have you any idea what causes this ? Is it because the alarm has short circuited or only the receiver ?.

Why does this happen after only not being used for several months, or is it down to the bikes battery going flat ?.

After doing this ( and changing the fuse ) the horn and brake lights start working.

BUT the engine doesn´t turn over nor do the turn signals work.

To get the engine turning over you have to jumper pin 3 to 11 and presumably to get the engine electronics back, jumper pin 6 to 10.

I say presumably because the engine still won´t start, although it does turn over, which I am hoping is due to a stuck or broken fuel pump.

As soon as I can I am going to dismount the left hand side panels and see if there is any fuel pressure at the injectors.

If not, I will have to remove the pump and go from there.

In regards to the turn signals which still do not work after doing the two previous jumpers, you have to jumper pin 2 to 10 and they then start flashing off and on as they were designed to do.

As I mentioned previously my LT is the newer model.

Hope this helps.
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There are internal batteries in side the alarm unit and they are not serviceable. When they go bad it causes the short that blows the fuse. The only fix is to replace the alarm unit.
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Thanks John !
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The neat part whether you replace the alarm or not is to use the 12 pin plug off the alarm. I had a bad unit sent to me for fun ( where the pictures came from) and I used the 12 pin connector from it to do the jumping of the wires and now I keep it in the side case. If I ever have a failure of the alarm on the road all I have to do is unplug the alarm and plugin the pre-jumpered connector and I am back in business.

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Thanks for that.

I suppose you have fead the line back to somewhere under the rear seat so you won´t have to remove the topcase.

Yes, I am planning on replacing the alarm, not so much for anti-theft benefits but more for it´s central locking facility.

As I understand it, I will "only" have to replace part # 65757678934 (maybe you could confirm) of which I have seen a few on the net.

My only worry about these is that they won´t come with the code that is needed to programme the fobs, as I am presuming that I will be able to use the two original ones that came with the bikes original alarm installation.

Or am I presuming too much : ) ?

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Could anyone tell me from what year and until when this alarm ( # 63945210) was used by BMW ?.

It´s not the same as mine (2005) but here´s a tutorial on how to change the batteries on it.

On mine you can´t.

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That looks like the alarm module that would go to a K1300GT or other CanBus BMWs.

And yes just the PN 65757678934 is all that needs replacement. I have a friend in the same situation and that is what he bought. He then sent me the old one to tear into.

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Thanks John.,

The guy who posted the tutorial on a Spanish BMW site ( BMW MOTOS - Todo sobre el mundo de las motos BMW ) says it is from an RT, but that LT´s also had them installed.

Did your friend buy a new one or a used one ?
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Re: K1200LT 06 alarm/imobilizer

K1200LT 2005 (new model)

I am just about to order a new alarm module ( 65757678934 ) as I can´t find a suitable used one.

Does anyone know if my original fobs will work with the new module if they are programmed using the new code that will come with the module ?.

Thanks in advance.
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Yes they will. I had a friend that did the same thing on his 05 and he had no issues with his old FOBs working with the new alarm.

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Thanks John.

I had imagined that that was the case, but wanted to confirm before ordering the module.

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