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Placing Girl on Center Stand Video?

I've had my 00 for two months and love it. The most difficult learning curve for me is placing her on the center stand. I feel I'm about to drop her when I stand her upright before attempting to put my weight into the stand. I'm successful 20% of the time in putting her on the stand. I haven't dropped her, yet. I've read the threads on the techniques to raise her, but I can't find a video. Does anyone have a link or suggestion on where a center stand video may reside? I've tried the forum search and You Tube.

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The main thing is to have both feet of the center stand firmly on the ground. Step on the center stand foot pad lowering the center stand to the ground. Slowly push the bike away from you till you feel both feet on the ground. With left hand on left handle bar grip & right hand on hand hold under the seat pull up & back with right hand as you push down with right foot. It will come up very easy once you get the hand of it.
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Thanks to Ron Miller for posting an ergonomic detail of putting the LT on the CS a number of years ago, I was able to do it with less effort. Press down on the CS lever with the left foot, facing the rear of the bike. If you step with the right foot, your body is twisted as the LT comes up. Not good for the back.

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I've had my 00 for two months and love it. The most difficult learning curve for me is placing her on the center stand. I feel I'm about to drop her when I stand her upright before attempting to put my weight into the stand. I'm successful 20% of the time in putting her on the stand. I haven't dropped her, yet. I've read the threads on the techniques to raise her, but I can't find a video. Does anyone have a link or suggestion on where a center stand video may reside? I've tried the forum search and You Tube.

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Silly question # 376.

What shocks and springs do you have?

If the stock springs have sagged out it is much more difficult to put the bike on the center stand. Replace with Hyperpro springs or complete shock/spring setups depending upon the thickness of your wallet.

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Robert, I'm not sure why my question falls into your "silly question" category. It is a legitimate question to me as I'm struggling with placing the LT on the CS. A demonstration video can only help. I have not received a reply pointing me towards a video, so I assume one does not exist.

In the meantime, I'll take your suggestion and research the age of the shocks and spring. Although I'm convinced operator error is the issue. However, if someone on the list lives an afternoon's drive from Pensacola, I'll be happy to ride over for a demonstration.

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Robert, I'm not sure why my question falls into your "silly question" category. It is a legitimate question to me as I'm struggling with placing the LT on the CS. A demonstration video can only help. I have not received a reply pointing me towards a video, so I assume one does not exist.

In the meantime, I'll take your suggestion and research the age of the shocks and spring. Although I'm convinced operator error is the issue. However, if someone on the list lives an afternoon's drive from Pensacola, I'll be happy to ride over for a demonstration.

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He did not say YOUR question was silly, but his question regarding the shocks, which was a VERY valid one.

Not being able to get the bike on the center stand IS normally an operator "error", since when you do discover the method you will wonder what all the fuss was about and realize you were doing it wrong at first. Most of us had problems at first, but soon discovered it was not hard at all, but does involve a bit of a learning curve. Once I figured it out (took a few days) I never gave it thought again. I rarely used the side stand.

It gets a little harder as the tires wear out, and especially as the shocks loose nitrogen pre charge pressure, springs weaken, or the pre-load oil level drops so you cannot set the pre load high enough.

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Thanks to Ron Miller for posting an ergonomic detail of putting the LT on the CS a number of years ago, I was able to do it with less effort. Press down on the CS lever with the left foot, facing the rear of the bike. If you step with the right foot, your body is twisted as the LT comes up. Not good for the back.
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Robert, I'm not sure why my question falls into your "silly question" category. It is a legitimate question to me as I'm struggling with placing the LT on the CS. A demonstration video can only help. I have not received a reply pointing me towards a video, so I assume one does not exist.

In the meantime, I'll take your suggestion and research the age of the shocks and spring. Although I'm convinced operator error is the issue. However, if someone on the list lives an afternoon's drive from Pensacola, I'll be happy to ride over for a demonstration.

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You misunderstand. It is my question that is referred to as silly. Not yours.

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You also might try cranking the preload adjuster all the way to see if that makes it easier while you are learning.

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Re: Placing Girl on Center Stand Video?

Here is the link to that thread. It's a good read whether you use this technique or not.

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Thanks to Ron Miller for posting an ergonomic detail of putting the LT on the CS a number of years ago, I was able to do it with less effort. Press down on the CS lever with the left foot, facing the rear of the bike. If you step with the right foot, your body is twisted as the LT comes up. Not good for the back.
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I cut myself a little piece of 1/2" plywood 3"wide,6" long .I carry it in the trunk. And for the times I do have trouble. I run the rear tire up on it. And she goes right up on the center stand.

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I will try to incorporate it into a video in the future along with some other tips and tricks.
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Thanks to Ron Miller for posting an ergonomic detail of putting the LT on the CS a number of years ago, I was able to do it with less effort. Press down on the CS lever with the left foot, facing the rear of the bike. If you step with the right foot, your body is twisted as the LT comes up. Not good for the back.
Interesting. I read the old thread with the Ron Miller technique, and I don't see how it is ergonomic. If I understand it, you are facing the rear of the bike with your left hip near or against the bike. You are reaching behind you with your left hand to hold the left hand grip. And your right hand is across your body holding the side bag handle. This seems a very contorted position to me and you are pulling up with your right hand crossing your body as you push down with your left foot which puts a cross-wise force through your body from your right shoulder down to your left foot. I am amazed an ergonomic professional would suggest this (I work in a Fortune 500 company and we have several).

The method I used with my Kawasaki Voyager is, I think, easier and more ergonomic. With my LT, I now just push the button, which is the most ergonomic method of all!

With Luddite bike's lacking a power center stand, here is how I do it.

I put down the side stand and get off the bike. I stand beside it facing forward with my left hand on the left hand grip and my right hand at my side and slightly behind me holding the passenger handle. I then place my right foot on the center stand and push it down until the left side touches the ground. I then in one smooth continuous motion, tilt the bike to the right off of the side stand keeping downward foot pressure on the center stand and when I feel the right side of the center stand contact the ground, I know the bike is upright and I then simultaneously push down with my right foot and pull up with my right hand. My body is not twisted and neither hand is across my body. My left arm is nearly straight forward since on most bikes the left grip extends beyond the side of the bike and my right arm is nearly straight down and only slightly rearward. And the force couple is nearly vertical from my right shoulder down to my right foot so there is no force moving cross-wise through my body and back. This entire process takes about a second from the time I tilt off the side stand until the bike pops onto the center stand. Far easier to do than to describe!

I've had a bad back since I was 17 and never had any back trouble using this technique to raise a heavy bike onto the center stand. My Voyager was relatively easy due to Kawasaki's very clever two-stage center stand. I rented a K1600 GTL last summer and it was harder to lift than the Kawi, but still not a problem with the technique I describe above.

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Robert, I did misunderstand your response. A twelve hour shift, a handful of hours of sleep, and no coffee had me on the defensive. My apologies. Another great suggestion with the preload adjustment.

Doug, I attempted the rearward facing CS suggestion and didn't feel comfortable with it. Thankfully I don't have back problems, but I might if I don't figure out the CS technique soon.

Kirk, the addition of a CS video to your trove of club videos would be greatly appreciated by all noob non-electric CS LT owners.

I have had more success raising her using the passenger handle, but I'm concerned it is not stressed for the job and the side case mounts would eventually fail.

Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but I believe my CS issue boils down to not having the right CS pad firmly planted before I attempt the raise. And the reason it's not planted is that I feel I'm about to drop her if I lean her a bit more over. She is a top heavy beast.

Thanks for the suggestions, but a shamed visit to my dealer may be on the horizon.

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...Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but I believe my CS issue boils down to not having the right CS pad firmly planted before I attempt the raise...
I'm inclined to agree with you, just push your foot down on the center stand until it contacts the ground while still on the side stand, then slowly and gently push it upright until you can feel the other pad hit the ground, it's a pretty apparent sensation through your foot if you have a bit of down pressure on the CS while standing the bike vertical. Once you feel it you can then easily put it up with the methods described above.

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Can I suggest have someone (wife, GF, anyone...) stand on the opposite side and gently hold the right handlebar while you practice moving the weight of the bike to the right till you feel the 2 feet of the stand sit firmly on the ground, and then go slightly past that postion with them supporting most of the weight until you feel it start to get away from you... then pull it back.
I think you'll find if you take your time with it it'll only be a few inches over at most and you'll still be able to pull back till its on both feet again.
Just having someone there to start to take the weight can bring a lot of confidence.
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BTW, I have the electric CS on my LT, but NOT on the GT, have to use manual mode.... but I do have a spare sitting in the garage.... hmmmmm

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I do it all the time with one finger!

I just press the button "bzzzzzt" and done!

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well when the bzzzt don't work we wont laugh! lol
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I was really hankering for a video myself. I'm a powerlifter/strongman in training and was totally unable to get it on the center stand and just couldn't figure out what was up and was convinced with a video I'd see some magic thing I was missing.

Then after never finding a video I read enough that I took away "get it level enough where both feet of the centerstand are touching the ground at the same time then while holding the handle of the bag [rather than the handle under the seat] with right hand, put all your weight downward on the stand using your left foot while kinda facing towards the rear of the bike."

It is now nothing for me to get it on the center stand (and this is with the preload adjuster needing a top-off.) No matter how much I tried to "strong" it up there it just didn't work, it really is a case of technique and strength doesn't have anything to do with it. I was worried about holding the bag's grab handle initially, but it is more for balance of me rather than putting any pressure/weight onto it. It does wobble a little as it finishes the final few inches and scares me some still, but it hasn't fallen going on the stand yet!

Maybe I'll teach my wife to do it and take a video of her just to prove that. But, my to-do list is so long I'd not recommend waiting for it (and I used the weasel-word "maybe" also )

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I, too have a background in powerlifting and strongman and am a newbie of 3 months. I attempted to put my LT on the CS on 3 occasions without success. I had torn off my right biceps tendon and had it reattached a few years ago, so I was a bit scared to pull as hard as I thought was necessary. However, I came to realize I didn't have the bike upright enough. When I put both pads on the floor and put my weight on the stand and pulled on the passenger handle it just jumped right up into place. Some strength is helpful, but it was more about technique for me.
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I always put my RIGHT foot on the stand lever, and pushed fairly hard on it while leaning the bike to the right, then it is very noticeable when both of the stand feet are on the ground. In fact, you can take your hands off the bike entirely and hold the bike upright with just pressure on the stand. With your left foot being more toward the front of the bike, and pulling up on the handle and pulling back on the handle bar with the left hand, it is easy to put a little additional rearward pressure on the saddle bag with your right knee, pushing off your left foot, and the bike will pop up on the stand very easily.

It does take some experimenting until you find just what works for you, but in the end you will find it becoming second nature and no longer think about.

The suggestion of having someone stand on the right side to "spot" you and take the worry out of letting it go too far is a very good one. Without that worry, you can quickly learn to get both feet of the stand down and stable, the hardest part to learn.

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I have much better success getting the LT up on the CS when I wear my cycling boots - or any hard soled shoe - than when wearing tennis shoes. Can't say I've seen anyone else on this board mention that but it just flat works for me.
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Plywood under the rear tire sounds good. Why not plywood taped under your tennis shoe. I usually lift the seat up and have a friend help pull up. Comes up on the second try. Injuring yourself lifting the beast is not worth it. It's more fun to ride it. I will try and practice your techniques.

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IMHO it is more about pushing down with your foot than about trying to pick the bike up with your right hand. Just push through it and it will go right up.

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One little tip: push down on the centerstand with your HEEL of your foot, NOT your toes.

Stupidly obvious after the fact, but basically, you are using your body weight, not your muscles. Works better to put your weight on it via your heel than your toes. I had trouble until I realized I was using my toes.

(I use the Right Hand on side bag handle, left on handle bar, step, up-he-goes (sorry, my LT is male, apparently).
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One little tip: push down on the centerstand with your HEEL of your foot, NOT your toes.

Stupidly obvious after the fact, but basically, you are using your body weight, not your muscles. Works better to put your weight on it via your heel than your toes. I had trouble until I realized I was using my toes.

(I use the Right Hand on side bag handle, left on handle bar, step, up-he-goes (sorry, my LT is male, apparently).
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makes sense. something is extending outward when depressed properly! (hmmmmm. could apply to...........) Never mind.

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Steve's response, way back at post # 2 is all you need. Very simple. No video, no overthinking, no staring at the bike, no sweating. The biggest hurdle for me was mental- trusting enough to slightly push the bike away from me to get both center stand feet on the ground. Until you can do that, you aren't getting it up on the stand.
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I'm physically fit but still don't care for how difficult it is. If the back is loaded or the tire is low, forget about it. At home I use a platform. Made from 2x12 planed down to 1 1/8 thick. Thin enough that the sidestand can still be used but high enough that it is almost effortless to put up on the centerstand. Just put it behind the rear tire, put in reverse and back onto it, put the sidestand down, get off, move it up on the centerstand, pullout the platform.

Camera lens does something weird to the front edge, doesn't look like it but the front edge is a straight across 45 deg bevel.

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I'm physically fit but still don't care for how difficult it is. If the back is loaded or the tire is low, forget about it. At home I use a platform. Made from 2x12 planed down to 1 1/8 thick. Thin enough that the sidestand can still be used but high enough that it is almost effortless to put up on the centerstand. Just put it behind the rear tire, put in reverse and back onto it, put the sidestand down, get off, move it up on the centerstand, pullout the platform.

Camera lens does something weird to the front edge, doesn't look like it but the front edge is a straight across 45 deg bevel.
A little much to carry when traveling. I still think the EHCS is the cat's pajamas.

Next best was the two-stage mechanical stand on my Voyager XII. First stage was barely above the ground, but would hold bike up. Second stage had leverage so that only about 50% of the normal effort was required to get the wheel off the ground. A pretty simple yet effective solution. If would be nice if BMW would use something like that if they are not planning to use an EHCS on future heavy bikes like the K1600.

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A male LT? That is just wrong.
well, my GF decided that "my" K100 must be female, in large part because she didn't want me riding a male bike.

When I bought the LT, that became "our" ( = her ) bike, so that had to be male.

I'm loosing this one, I can see that.
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If you are still tracking this thread, then you'll be happy to know that I cracked the code and no longer have an issue with placing the gal on the CS. I believe she was angry with me for not formally introducing her to my wife. I introduced them with a short 100 mile jaunt for Fathers Day, and she (LT) cooperated nicely with the CS following the ride. My wife was also impressed with her, but her thoughts are for another thread.
In all seriousness, having my wife spot me to determine the bike center point for the CS, and also applying the suggestion to push through the CS with my heel were the two bits of info that ended my struggles. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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If you are still tracking this thread, then you'll be happy to know that I cracked the code and no longer have an issue with placing the gal on the CS. I believe she was angry with me for not formally introducing her to my wife. I introduced them with a short 100 mile jaunt for Fathers Day, and she (LT) cooperated nicely with the CS following the ride. My wife was also impressed with her, but her thoughts are for another thread.
In all seriousness, having my wife spot me to determine the bike center point for the CS, and also applying the suggestion to push through the CS with my heel were the two bits of info that ended my struggles. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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I too have used my wife to spot and that I know how much pressure it takes to put both sides of the CS flat. I'm still nervous. I use the ball of my right foot and push downward. If I'm using a work shoe it works almost every time. Good work brother!

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Well, apparently I could use the video too. Picked up my LT after a couple months at my dad's place while I have had my garage in a mess with a house project, got it home and went to put it on the center stand and guess I mis-judged straight up by a few degrees and it tipped over on the right side. No damage other than pride but I sure feel stupid.

As I mentioned, it's been a couple months since I have been able to ride it and it sure was a nice ride home, and when it fell over missed hitting the wife car by about an inch so I've got those positives going for me.

First time I have ever done that, never even came close before, guess it's been a while and I wasn't really paying attention. The second trip up on the center stand was without incident.

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Keeping the center stand well-lubricated makes a HUGE difference.

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When I have a problem getting (HER) up I roll the front wheel up on a 2x6 hold the center stand down and let her roll back, goes up by its self.


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I can't tell you what a thrill it is to finally be able to put this beast up on the center stand by my self. I backed up on a half inch piece of fiberboard and up she went. Just that little bit made all the difference in the world. Thank God for the laws of physics. Happy. Happy.

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I can't tell you what a thrill it is to finally be able to put this beast up on the center stand by my self. I backed up on a half inch piece of fiberboard and up she went. Just that little bit made all the difference in the world. Thank God for the laws of physics. Happy. Happy.
Good deal.

Keep in mind though that this may be an indication that your preload adjuster needs oil or your rear spring is due for replacement.

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I can't tell you what a thrill it is to finally be able to put this beast up on the center stand by my self. I backed up on a half inch piece of fiberboard and up she went. Just that little bit made all the difference in the world. Thank God for the laws of physics. Happy. Happy.
That works when you're at home or in your garage, but when you're away from home, just trust all the advice here and put your big boy pants on and gently push the girl away from you so both centerstand feet are in contact with the ground and then raise her up!

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You can always roll either the front or rear tire onto a 1 X 6 board. this raises the M/C just enough to give you more purchase, and they pop right up. I used to carry a short board just for this. I would roll the front tire up on the 1 X 6. I had a friend who put it under the rear tire....either way.
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I have much better success getting the LT up on the CS when I wear my cycling boots - or any hard soled shoe - than when wearing tennis shoes. Can't say I've seen anyone else on this board mention that but it just flat works for me.
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I had share my experience...I just installed new HyperPro springs on my 2002, both front and rear. In addition to a much improved ride, I can put the bike on center stand with ease. I grab the left side luggage handle, put my foot on the stand and it darn nears jumps up on the CS by itself. I'm guessing the old springs were so sprung that the sag was changing the suspension geometry enough to make center stand operation tougher. Anyway, it's nice when I get 2 benefits out of 1 upgrade.
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As a few people mentioned finding "vertical" on the bike and using someone else to spot for them, here's my way, which a few people aluded to, so I'm not taking credit, just spelling it out in more detail.

I usually put down the side stand, then get off the bike. That way, if I have a clumsy moment, it lands on the sidestand, but I don't actually plan to use it.

Off the bike, leaning it towards me slightly, but definitely, I push down on the center stand pedal until the first contact with the ground. That's the pad NEAR me touching the ground.

Now, lightly holding down the pedal so the pad near me stays on the ground, I start tipping the bike away from me until I feel the SECOND pad hit the ground -- the pad away from me. You will know. As both pads are now on the ground, the bike is perfectly upright, and I know it. At this point, I put my weight on the pedal -- pause, realize I've got my toes on it again, and reposition it so my heel is on the pedal, and put my weight into it for real -- up (s)he goes.

Someone, sometime back, mentioned getting the bike on the center stand while SITTING ON THE BIKE (no boards, etc.). I want to see this.
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I know this is going to sound weird, but for me it's all in how I think about it. As I put my weight on the stand I have to make myself think about pushing the center stand into the ground with my foot. When I use the hand grip to steady the bike and as leverage to drive the foot into the ground she pops right up. If I think about pulling up on hand grip as I put weight on the foot it barely moves, it never goes up on the stand. Try it one time...you'll see what I mean.

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As a few people mentioned finding "vertical" on the bike and using someone else to spot for them, here's my way, which a few people aluded to, so I'm not taking credit, just spelling it out in more detail.

I usually put down the side stand, then get off the bike. That way, if I have a clumsy moment, it lands on the sidestand, but I don't actually plan to use it.

Off the bike, leaning it towards me slightly, but definitely, I push down on the center stand pedal until the first contact with the ground. That's the pad NEAR me touching the ground.

Now, lightly holding down the pedal so the pad near me stays on the ground, I start tipping the bike away from me until I feel the SECOND pad hit the ground -- the pad away from me. You will know. As both pads are now on the ground, the bike is perfectly upright, and I know it. At this point, I put my weight on the pedal -- pause, realize I've got my toes on it again, and reposition it so my heel is on the pedal, and put my weight into it for real -- up (s)he goes.

Someone, sometime back, mentioned getting the bike on the center stand while SITTING ON THE BIKE (no boards, etc.). I want to see this.
I do this all the time. I sit on the bike and push the button for the center stand.

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Eight years ago I went to look at a K1200. I'd never ridden one before. The owner had had the bike for just a year or so and injured his back. Apparently, it was much bigger than any other bike he'd ever owned.

I took it for a jaunt around the block. Then my girlfriend got on the back and we went out for 15 or 20 minutes. Pulled back into the guy's driveway. We hopped off the bike, then I just casually flipped it onto the centerstand.

The guy just stood there, staring. Finally, he asked, "how did you DO that???"

I shrugged and said, "I donno, I guess I started with a moped 30 years ago and worked my way up." Which was true. But my previous two bikes were a Goldwing 1500 and a Goldwing 1800 and I used to put them on the centerstand regularly.


And, I'm not exactly "athletic". It's all a matter of pushing down on the pedal with all ya got while keeping the bike upright and steady.


BTW, when I noticed the title of this thread, I thought, "huh? Video of a girl placing a bike on the center stand?" (I've seen real life demos of a 90 pound woman lifting a fallen-over Goldwing) "Video of placing a girl on the bike on the centerstand?" Then whatever I was thinking got a lot naughtier.

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