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The necessity of respecting the big rigs

A highway patrol friend of mine showed me this. No details on the aftermath of this but I'd be surprised if any survived.

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Holy Crap !!! The SUV exploded into a thousand parts!! Prayers to the family as I do not think anyone made it alive.

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Wow, that could not have happened at a worse time. THAT is a dramatic crash!

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Anyone know where that was? Very unsettling.
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[QUOTE=1worshipguy] I'd be surprised if any survived.

Yes, I'd be too...one awful impact!
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Holy SH*T... That looks like it was from a transformer movie.

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That was really disturbing to watch.... someone dying a violent death right in front of your eyes - not a chance anyone survived. I feel REALLY bad for the trucker and the family of the deceased.

I still can't figure out what happened with the driver of the SUV. He/she was apparently going along well without any issues - then starts this oscillating swerve which escalates.

My bet - which is TOTAL speculation - is that he/she was texting, dialing a phone or something. Looked up - and was drifting into another lane... over corrected in a panic... then got into what is known in aviation as a "death spiral". Especially easy to do in an SUV with their high center of gravity.

I really wish I didn't watch that in the first place. There is enough death and mayhem going on around me every day with friends, business clients and family that I really don't need another dose - that has absolutely nothing to do with motorcycles.

The OP should have posted a warning - really irresponsible and insensitive not to have done that.

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That was really disturbing to watch.... not a chance anyone survived. I feel REALLY bad for the trucker.

I still can't figure out what happened with the driver of the SUV. He/she was apparently going along well without any issues - then starts this oscillating swerve which escalates.

My bet - which is TOTAL speculation - is that he/she was texting, dialing a phone or something. Looked up - and was drifting into another lane... over corrected in a panic... then got into what is known in aviation as a "death spiral".

I really wish I didn't watch that in the first place. There is enough death and mayhem going on around me every day with friends, business clients and family that I really don't need another dose.

The OP should have posted a warning - really irresponsible not to have done that.
Ron,

It was a combination of adverse factors that led up to the collision. The snow bank on the left which seemed to cause the strike on the truck at right and an eventual spin out. Really sad...I too doubt that there were any survivors.
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Ron is correct on one point and I do sincerely apologize. This video should have carried a graphic warning.

However, it is in the proper forum of Chit Chat which, by design, can deal with things outside of motorcycle-dom.

One last point, I've seen other accidents similar to this one...I would not be surprised if the SUV had their cruise set. You can see a little sliding of the rear to the right just before loosing control. Any time a vehicle, going up hill, on a slippery surface, has the cruise automatically drop down a gear it can initiate wheel slippage which compounds as the cruise tries to speed up.

Another possibility is just simply a small patch of ice. Saw a Goldwing do basically the same thing...minus the big rig.

Again...I do apologize for the graphic content and no warning. Thanks for understanding.

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Re: The necessity of respecting the big rigs

He never touched the brakes so the cruise could have been on. Looked to me like he simply got his left tires into the packed snow on his left and over-corrected or was over-corrected by the cruise control. Using cruise in the snow can result in this type of situation. Nothing good can be said about that one.

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If like everyone suggests, they did not survive, it must have been instantaneous. That is all that you can take away from this. Does anyone know if that was here in the states or Canada.
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Ron,

It was a combination of adverse factors that led up to the collision. The snow bank on the left which seemed to cause the strike on the truck at right and an eventual spin out. Really sad...I too doubt that there were any survivors.
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Ron is correct on one point and I do sincerely apologize. This video should have carried a graphic warning.

However, it is in the proper forum of Chit Chat which, by design, can deal with things outside of motorcycle-dom.

One last point, I've seen other accidents similar to this one...I would not be surprised if the SUV had their cruise set. You can see a little sliding of the rear to the right just before loosing control. Any time a vehicle, going up hill, on a slippery surface, has the cruise automatically drop down a gear it can initiate wheel slippage which compounds as the cruise tries to speed up.

Another possibility is just simply a small patch of ice. Saw a Goldwing do basically the same thing...minus the big rig.

Again...I do apologize for the graphic content and no warning. Thanks for understanding.
Yeah, no worries - I was just kind of shocked. Stuff like that makes me not sleep at night.

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Re: The necessity of respecting the big rigs

I asked the highway patrol friend who sent that to me if he had any details of aftermath, survivors, location, etc...he did not have any of that info.

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Awful, but so real.
Perhaps mandatory viewing for new drivers.
With the appropriate warnings.

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