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[BUGKILLER]

According to Fox news and the AP this guy is for real . He has successfully run a car on water. If it's true things are going to change. YeeHaa...
http://www.rratch.com/Misc/WaterFuel/WaterFuel.wmv

[dshealey]

According to Fox news and the AP this guy is for real . He has successfully run a car on water. If it's true things are going to change. YeeHaa...
http://www.rratch.com/Misc/WaterFuel/WaterFuel.wmv

Well, I sure hope it is real, but color me very skeptical.

Seperating water into it's ONLY components, Hydrogen and Oxygen, has been done for many decades. I used a small industrial unit that produced a Oxy/Hydrogen flame through a very small torch tip in the 1960s. It used the age old electrolysis system to break down the water into oxygen and hydrogen, then fed these to the small torch handle.

IF this system is using electrolysis in this way, it uses more energy from an electric power source than it develops, making it an energy loss system.

Besides, if his unit works so well on water, I have to wonder why is he using it in a dual fuel vehicle, with gasoline?

[BUGKILLER]

David I agree. I'm skeptical as well but it sure is nice that people are working on the fuel issue outside of the oil industry. We have a huge fueling station for hydrogen vehicles a mile north of me in the city of Chino. From what I understand it is a very slow process and at this point cost more than the savings as you pointed out. I am personally working on getting my 05 LT to run on margaritas. Wish me luck. :D

[meese]

I remember an old story by CalTech Professor Richard Feinman where some guy was demonstrating an engine that ran on alternative fuel. While the "inventor" was filling the gathered press with lots of vauge rhetoric and evading Feinman's direct questions, the Professor noticed an extension cord running from the engine's gauge panel. He unplugged the cord, the miraculous engine made bad noises and destroyed itself, and the "inventor" ended up suing the Prof and CalTech. They ended up settling, while Feinmen kept declaring he'd done nothing wrong and that the guy was a quack. Obviously this amazing technology hasn't exactly set the world on fire.

[rixchard]

Now ask this question, how many kilowatts are used to break down the water and over what period of time.

[dshealey]

That it is quackery!

Just did some web searches, and am pretty well convinced you will not see this being used in cars. It is based on electrolysis, just as I figured it was. Nothing new there, and electrolysis does use more energy to break the water down to its components of hydrogen and oxygen than can be obtained from the resulting gases.

This is just the latest emergence of "Brown's gas" http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm

and "Rhodes gas"
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/academy/papers/Common_Duct_Electrolytic_OxyHydrogen/

Yet another wishful thinking person trying to resurrect old "technology".

[petepeterson]

SORRY guys but there is NO energy in water... 0 btu's nada, none.. Added to certain fuel/air mixtures you will change the burn rate but there will never be any energy in water............Regards Pete

[dshealey]

SORRY guys but there is NO energy in water... 0 btu's nada, none.. Added to certain fuel/air mixtures you will change the burn rate but there will never be any energy in water............Regards Pete

There is quite a bit of energy there once it is seperated into it's two components of Hydrogen and Oxygen. But as I stated before, using presently known methods it takes more energy to seperate it than the two gasses can produce when converted back into energy.

[petepeterson]

True, but once you change its make up you no longer have water.........Regards Pete

[rixchard]

There is energy bound up in every physical object. One just needs a means of extracting it. in this case, by passing current through the water, it is broken down into oxygen and hydrogen. Burning the hydrogen gives the energy we see demonstarted by the torch.