Various K1200GT comparos

[eljeffe]

After finding the NADA site that allows comparisons of motorcycles, I posted a bunch of it over at K-Bikes.com

http://www.k-bikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3658

[jpalamaro]

Nice piece of work Jeff. Seeing the comparisons makes a difference. Even comparing the GT among the RT and the LT interesting, however, maybe I read too quickly, but the S,R, and of course the GT now have a 'multi-plate' wet clutch.

My R12GS has had a 'smelly' clutch since new, with no problems and I know if it ever is a problem, dealer will fix it under warranty. The LT dry clutch at about 5000 miles no problem. I just think, and it's opinion, a dry clutch in today's day and age is neanderthal, but then again, just an opinion! As I said, nice work!

[RonKMiller]

I can't believe the GT weighs 100 lbs. less than the ST 1300? That is worth the price of admission alone for the GT. Absolutely amazing. The GT would absolutely SMOKE an ST in ANY performance category with that much of an advantage. The ST1300 is now a dinosaur. A big fat dinosaur.
I wonder what the Yammy weighs as it did not show up in your comparo. :confused:

I can't believe Yamaha only offers a 12 month warranty. I would not buy the bike for that reason alone. If they don't have any confidence in it... I would only consider it if the dealer threw in an extended warranty with a good warranty company.

I am warming up quickly to the GT, it certainly appears that BMW has created a new bench mark - and has left the Japanese sucking wind.

Excellent work Jeff. :thumb:

[TouringProf]

It is called the YES (Yamaha Extended Warranty) program, it is backed by Yamaha, and it is more reasonable then any of the extended warranties that I was aware of when I bought my 2002.

Just FYI.

[TouringProf]

Details from Yamaha web site:
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Say 'Y.E.S.' to Yamaha Extended Service

It's no secret that repair costs continue to rise. While your Yamaha is in warranty, you can relax, because the factory will step in to pay for those expensive repairs with the best warranty coverage in the industry. Wouldn't it be comforting to have the same kind of dependable coverage, even after the warranty expires? You can!

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Repairs* become Yamaha's problem, not yours. Y.E.S. will be there, whether the repair costs a few dollars... or thousands!

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[RonKMiller]

Hey Jeff (Touring Prof)

Do you remember what the cost was cost and term?

This should be any easy item to negotiate with the sale of a new bike, especially when the competition is offering 3 years - it doesn't really cost the dealer much at all -as you know these warranties have obscenely HUGE margins.

Have there been any big issues with FJRs? (beside the heat thing which is supposedly fixed for the 06...)

I'm heading off this weekend to look at an 06 FJR and GT. Not even gonna' give the ST a glance.

[TouringProf]

Ron:

I got 3 years worth of coverage, which is really 4 years because it doesn't kick in until the original warranty expires. To be honest, I don't remember how much it was, although I remember thinking it was inexpensive. When I get home later today, I'll pull the agreement out, check the price, and post it.

Insofar as the heat is concerned, I had heard that was a problem with both the FJR and ST. The difference is, there is a 'fix' for the FJR. It took me about 2 hours (I'm a slow and methodical worker), and about 25 dollars of material from Home Depot to completely eliminate the problem. The FJR now rides cooler than my Rocket (with bags - adding them changed the heat/air flow profile) and a lot of other bikes I've owned. In fact, there are a couple of web sites where you can download the instructions for the fix, and MCN ran an article a while back showing how as well. I can send you the information in pdf format if you decide to spring for a pre-06 model. It is a fabulous bike, and I have had zero issues of any kind since I bought it. Unlike what I think I'll be able to figure out for the GT, there are even mounts for highway pegs available for the FJR.

Get back to you later with the YES cost data.

Jeff

[TouringProf]

Ron-

More proof that when you are my age, memory goes second.

When I purchased my FJR, I purchased a maintenance plan for 3 years: unlimited maintenance (parts and labor) for 3 years. $1,040.00

The YES extended warranty I purchased was for an additional 4 years after my original warranty expires, for a total cost of $649.00

Jeff

[RonKMiller]

Ron-

More proof that when you are my age, memory goes second.

When I purchased my FJR, I purchased a maintenance plan for 3 years: unlimited maintenance (parts and labor) for 3 years. $1,040.00

The YES extended warranty I purchased was for an additional 4 years after my original warranty expires, for a total cost of $649.00

Jeff

THANKS!