Questions about the Remus Exhaust

[markfran]

I am thinking about installing a Remus exhaust on my LT and I had a couple of questions for the knowledgeable.

1. Do they sound good or annoying

2. Are they really loud or comfortable

3. Are they easy to install

4. Do they increase HP

5. Are they worth installing.

I know these will be subject to opinion, but I would like to know peoples opinions.

Thanks

Mark

[RMoore007]

1. Do they sound good or annoying
They sound a little unnerving at first but you will quickly get used to the throaty growl. Not really annoying, but your music listening will be interupted with a healthy twist of the wrist.

2. Are they really loud or comfortable
You will quickly get used to the sound and learn to shift quicker and use less rpm's when you want to ride stealth.

3. Are they easy to install
I just recently bought my third LT with it already installed. I believe I heard that they are easy and fast to install.

4. Do they increase HP
The increased HP will be subtle but the sound makes you "feel" like you're going much faster.:)

5. Are they worth installing
Yes. I would not want it removed now. It did take me a couple weeks to get used to the new sound.

Just recently at our annual Death Valley trip, several others mentioned to me that they liked the sound and could hear me shifting and accelerating even if I was behind them. Maybe they were just being polite.:p

[DaveDragon]

1. Do they sound good or annoying
Sounds good to me!
2. Are they really loud or comfortable
Very comfortable to me.
3. Are they easy to install
It's about a three beer job http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif
4. Do they increase HP
Yes, a little. With the RhineWest Performance Chip a Little More.
5. Are they worth installing.
I think so.

No more 5200-5500 rpm hesitation or buzz.
Solid predictable power throughout the powercurve.
Better sounding exhaust note.
No Catalytic Converter.

[SeaMarshal]

I had an 02 RT and put the Staintune exhaust on. First of all sounded great, then I got tired of hearing the louder tone verses the stock. Spendy item too. I also determined that I lost top end grunt for some reason.

Now have an 05 LT and enjoy the sound just as it is.

Tim

[meese]

Hi Mark,

Try a search on this board for Remus and you'll get lots of good info.

Also be aware that Remus makes a Sport can and a Street can. General consensus is that the Sport can is too loud for the LT, both in terms of drowning out the stereo and annoying others on the road. The Street can is better, and can be easily modified so it stays relatively quiet during normal riding, and gets a slight growl when opening the bike up.

Most people seem to be happy with the Street can upgrade, while a couple didn't feel it was worth the additional cost. At the end of the day, it's your money.

[messenger13]

I'd disappoint many people if I didn't jump in here and give my 2 cents again regarding "louder than stock pipes" on the LT.



1. Do they sound good or annoyingI personally prefer the sound of the LT for 800-mile days in the saddle. The Remus would annoy me on long rides (more than 15 minutes :D ). My wife would hate them within the first 2 minutes.


2. Are they really loud or comfortableI wouldn't call them "loud", let alone really loud. More like..."unneccessary". Then again, I ride a Ninja ZX-11 and run stock Kaw pipes on that too. They are from a ZZR1200 (not the OEM ZX-11 pipes)...but none-the-less, they are very quiet compared to most if not all aftermarket pipes.


3. Are they easy to installYes.


4. Do they increase HPHuge controversy here...on any forum regarding any bike/pipe combo. Just know this (and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong)...unless an aftermarket header/pipe is a full-race system, HP gains will be negligible at best. Typically, 0 to 3 HP gain max.


5. Are they worth installing.It's your money Mark. I do find two redeeming qualities about the Remus pipe. 1) They get rid of the minutely annoying 4800RPM vibration of the pre-'05 LT's. ...and 2) IMHO, they look really cool. I like the performance look of them, as compared to the semi-truck chrome stack look of the OEM pipe.

[motorhead]

Frankly, I think my bike runs much smoother, engine pulls from down low in rpm range too max rpm with out so much as a hickup. No 4500 rpm buzz & a nice sound that cagers can hear :p

I did a mod that was posted on the site to remove @ 30% of the low growl noise ... Now my wife is happy too. The REMUS street can unmodified my wife found too noisey .... hence the mod to baffle.

I got my REMUS at a good price from a fellow member, so the Cost to performance ratio was WELL worth it IMHO.

Scott

[belga1976]

I have the full remus exhaust with the chip on my RS. Love the sound of it. horsepower increase yes annoying not at all, cosmetically it looks great on a black bike...

[grifscoots]

Hey Joe, you forgot to add they drop about 20 pounds of weight.

[grifscoots]

Hey Joe, you forgot to add they drop about 20 pounds of weight.

With the Rhinewest chip and Remus you can expect around 100hp.

[k12steve]

Hey Joe, you forgot to add they drop about 20 pounds of weight.

Absolutely!!!

I've got the full Ti Remus on Bugkiller...for the last 20K miles. Smooth power, less weight, less chrome. How can you go wrong.

My wife likes the sound, of course, she also likes the sound of her Cobra :)

[messenger13]

Hey Joe, you forgot to add they drop about 20 pounds of weight.Oh yea...how could I forget that?


Let's see...Take an 860-pound bike

Add ONE 200-pound rider (And that's only riding 1-up, of course)
Throw on 40 pounds of gear (a conservative estimate)
I won't even bring up all the accessories that we have installed and love so much...
And you want me to bring up a 20-pound weight savings?! http://www.zx1112.bigbikeworld.com/forum/smilies/eek.gif



With the Rhinewest chip and Remus you can expect around 100hp.You're claiming a gain of approx. 20% over the stock pre-'05 LT? Interesting...

[STARFIGHTER]

Do they sound good or annoying ?
Sound good but on a long trip I sometimes miss the "quiet"
Are they really loud or comfortable ?
Comfortable with the above mentioned mod.
Are they easy to install ?
Even I, Allan the Hamfisted can do it.........
Do they increase HP ?
I'm saying yes but my Starfighter has been acknowledged to be fast anyway..........
Are they worth installing ?
Lose the cat. and all the over-rich running when the thin OEM header finally cracks and starts carboning up your valves................ended up costing me a sum to get my boy staraightened out . Wish I'd switched sooner.

[rracer]

I had Remus cans on my K1200RS and enjoyed them. The sound was nice without being offensive. Also, think I gained a pony or two though it is hard to tell for sure. Excellent quality as well.

For the LT, the silence is golden. It is an awesome feeling to fly down the road hearing nothing but the wind. Almost magic, though what works for me may not be for you. If you want a llittle more sound go with the Remus cans, and don't worry what others think.

[petepeterson]

Hmmmmm,, Sounds like the power increase is not much at all, don't know that you could honestly feel 2 horse power..Only a dyno can tell for sure..

Noise,, That is what the LT is all about, Its the BMW of motorcycles,very very smooth and quiet.. Really if ya got to have noise then its a Harley with 2 inch straight drags or nothing....:)...Regards Pete

[RonKMiller]

I can't understand why anyone would want to spend that much money on an exhaust system that supposedly:

1. Increases horsepower. Yeah, right... uh huh. Not a chance until you open up the breathing, put in the Rhinewest chip, install larger fuel injectors and do extensive and costly dyno testing to make sure your a/f ratio is correct so you don't ping an engine that can go 250K? You'll probably end up with less mpg as well. You're into 2 large at this point for MAYBE an extra 5 - 10 ponies - and what ARE you going to do with them? Drag race Hayabusa's?

2. You will NEVER pass emissions without the cat. That's OK, you can just bolt all the stock stuff back on again for a day - just like all the ricers do! 2005 was just officially recognized as the hottest year on record. What, me worry?

3. Most likely damages your hearing, and definitely causes MORE fatigue on a bike designed to cover hundreds of miles with low fatigue, and then...

4. You have to do a mod at home to decrease the noise, just to have the "perfect sound"?

5. Drop 20 lbs, of weight? If it ain't unsprung weight it does not count on an 800 lb. scooter.

I don't get it. Maybe Tool Time Tim Allen would. ;)

[motorman587]

I am thinking about installing a Remus exhaust on my LT and I had a couple of questions for the knowledgeable.

1. Do they sound good or annoying

2. Are they really loud or comfortable

3. Are they easy to install

4. Do they increase HP

5. Are they worth installing.

I know these will be subject to opinion, but I would like to know peoples opinions.

Thanks

Mark

1. Sound good.

2. Comfortable

3. A friend had put on the exhaust and chip. Looked easy for him, not me.

4. It runs better, can say about HP and it depends who you talk too.

5. If there was ever a aftermarket add on that was worth the money, it would be the chip and exhaust. It make the LT run so much smoother and sounds good too.

[markfran]

Will the LT not pass an emissions test with the Remus Exhaust. ?

[grifscoots]

We used my bike in the development of the first chip, I took her down past the tank and back together so many times that my fastest time was 1 hour 20 minutes. That's removing the gas tank. Some chips ran like a scalded ass ape, but had weird anamolies, like dieing at a stop sign, surging, etc. The first production chip made the throttle action more linear, smoother, gave a bump in hp (via dyno) and took away the vibration twixt 48-5000 rpm.

When Remus developed the exhaust, Rhinewest developed a new chip. Opening up the exhaust allowed them to chip more radically. I only had to tear the bike down once, evaluated it and they let her fly.

Here's a pic of Hank whilst sitting on a shop rag with David on the bike doing some dialing on an initial run. http://www.rhinewest.com/ltperf.htm

Bet some of y'all didn't know that there was a version of our LT that actually came out in 1998 in Europe? Some of the early 99's have a build date of '98.

[meese]

Will the LT not pass an emissions test with the Remus Exhaust?Not sure why that matters. California has some of the strictest emissions regulations in the country, and we don't have a periodic emissions test for bikes. Cars, sure, but as long as bikes meet the basic requirements from the factory, then you're good to go.

[RonKMiller]

Not sure why that matters. California has some of the strictest emissions regulations in the country, and we don't have a periodic emissions test for bikes. Cars, sure, but as long as bikes meet the basic requirements from the factory, then you're good to go.

That blows my mind. Most motorcycles put out significantly more hydrocarbons than cars of even triple the displacement. Without a cat they are REALLY dirty.

In Arizona, with the cat missing during a physical inspection you are not going to get plates, (It's also a violation of Federal Law to remove it... like they're going to send the FBI after you LOL!) as well as passing a "sniffer" test.

[RideIt]

Different Strokes for different people. I had a Remus on my LT, wife did not like the extra "noise". Well after a while I changed back to stock and I will have to admit that I really like the quiet better. I could not tell much if any difference in Remus and stock exhaust. If you want more noise I would recommend getting a Harley :)

Good Luck in your decision, because even though I didn't especially like it a lot of folks do.
Leon
05 Blue LT

[jfredriksson]

Hey Joe, Putting a pipe on a ZX11 would be akin to putting a bottle rocket on a ICBM. How much is to much!!!!!

[RMoore007]

1. Do they sound good or annoying
They sound a little unnerving at first but you will quickly get used to the throaty growl. Not really annoying, but your music listening will be interupted with a healthy twist of the wrist.

2. Are they really loud or comfortable
You will quickly get used to the sound and learn to shift quicker and use less rpm's when you want to ride stealth.

3. Are they easy to install
I just recently bought my third LT with it already installed. I believe I heard that they are easy and fast to install.

4. Do they increase HP
The increased HP will be subtle but the sound makes you "feel" like you're going much faster.:)

5. Are they worth installing
Yes. I would not want it removed now. It did take me a couple weeks to get used to the new sound.

Just recently at our annual Death Valley trip, several others mentioned to me that they liked the sound and could hear me shifting and accelerating even if I was behind them. Maybe they were just being polite.:p

After just getting back from a ride today, I forgot to add a few things.

I have the Rhinewest Chip installed with the Remus carbon fiber Revolution exhyaust system with stainless steel headers.(Raffy:D)

When I first got on this new LT last November, I thought it was faster and smoother than my two previous LT's. I think it is very easy to get used to any increased hp, no matter how little. No more 4500rpm buzz though. Kinda miss that sometimes.:)

I have to agree with some others about the quiet you'll miss at 75 mph. You have to get used to the rumble. And being two-up most of the time, I think I'd change back to the stock system too. But, if you ride alone most of the time, can afford them, have the stock system for a spare, then that's all good stuff right there.:)

[motorman587]

My half does not mind the extra noise. Then again she is only 30. :)

[rattler50]

I'm tempted to try the exhaust. I like the aluminum more as far as looks go. I sometimes miss the "Nasty Boys" on my Yamaha Venture. Does the Remus not use the exhaust bracket that bolts to the tranny? And Ron, I guess you've never had the FBI (Federal Bedding Inspectors) show up at your door and make you sew that tag back on your mattress!!........ :histerica

[gpolakow]

Remus exhaust was on my 2000LT when I bought it. I have decided to keep it, however there are definitely certain RPM ranges when they are little annoying. I find that at 3000 or above they are okay. Not sure I would have changed fromt the quieter stock muffler if it had been my call and I can't really talk about performance enhancement since I never experienced the stock muffler,