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DaveDragon
Jan 27th, 2006, 10:11 pm
I ordered a set of Model N Mick-O-Pegs from Riding is Wonderful, Inc. (http://www.ridingiswonderful.com/ridingiswonderfulinc/id46.html) manufactured and sold by our very own Jim Mick (MOPMan (http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/member.php?find=lastposter&t=2165)).

During the time between when I ordered them and the time I received them, Jim had released the redesigned Model N Mick-O-Pegs,
so he sent me the new set along with refund check for the difference in price for the new model.

The Model N Mick-O-Pegs are for use with J-Pegs. The O model are for use without J-Pegs and include modified tip over (crash) bars.

I received the package at my office and opened it to find the contents well packed in newspaper along with a printed installation sheet, sales receipt and a couple of business cards.

The materials and workmanship of the components are First Class with perfect Fit & Finish.
The Arm of the Mick-O-Pegs comes pre-installed on the spring hinge and mounting bracket and the hinge had been greased during assembly.

The foot rest piece is knurled for a slip free finish and is attached to the Arm with a single bolt.

The installation instructions are clear and complete and include a reminder to not lose the spring and BB from the J-Pegs while installing the Mick-O-Pegs.

I arrived home from work at 8:15pm and had them installed twenty minutes later.

The installation process (paraphrased):

Remove the J-Peg shoulder bolts (one at a time)
Install the provided shoulder bolts
Bolt the bracket to the new shoulder bolts
Attach the foot rest bar
The instructions also recommend usage do's & dont's.

I road with them the first time during my morning commute and found the leg position to be very comfortable.
The foot position is forward of the rider foot peg and about five (5) inches below.
This position results in a more relaxed knee bend angle and moving your feet back to the rider foot pegs is effortless.
When you remove your feet from the Mick-O-Pegs they retract to the tucked position.

The ride home this evening provided a 20 mile stretch of the Suncoast Parkway to use the Mick-O-Pegs.
Your feet feel comfortable on the Pegs and the more relaxed knee and hip position remains comfortable.


Out of the Box
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-00.jpg

Close Up
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-0.jpg


Before Installation of Mick-O-Pegs
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-1.jpg

Installing first modified shoulder bolt, the bolt heads are side cut to accommodate a 9/16 wrench
and are center drilled & tapped for the bracket mounting bolt.
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-2.jpg

Modified Shoulder Bolts installed and M-O-P hanging from mounting bolts
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-3.jpg

Mounting bolts snug
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-4.jpg

Mick-O-Pegs Installed
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-5.jpg

Wide View
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-6.jpg

Foot on the rider peg (with relocators installed).
Note the leg & knee angle and compare to the photo below.
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-7.jpg

Foot on the Mick-O-Pegs
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/2/6/0/7/Install-8.jpg

My Opinion: Mick-O-Pegs are a real solution that provide a comfortable and safe leg position while riding the LT on controlled access roads.

As you can see from the photos, I have also installed other ergonomic offerings for alternate leg positions.

Unlike the J-Pegs, The Mick-O-Pegs allow for a very comfortable leg and hip position.

This is one of those "Most Bang for the Buck$" mods on par with HID lighting.

Perfect Fit & Finish
Clear instructions
Easy installation
Works as advertised
Great value
Well done Jim!

beemerlt
Jan 28th, 2006, 2:59 am
Nice review Dave, thanks.

the1mavin
Jan 28th, 2006, 10:21 am
Dave,

Excellent review! I just ordered a set of the Model "O" this week and am expecting them today or Monday. Glad to hear you like them. I have read that the flex can be a problem--what did you think?

I will try to write up a review of the Model "O" with pics as you have done--I'll just have to learn to insert pics now...

Thanks
Tim

DaveDragon
Jan 28th, 2006, 11:45 am
I have read that the flex can be a problem--what did you think?
Tim
The Flex is side to side and not a problem at all.
They only flexed or wiggled side-to-side when I crossed a rough road to bridge transition.

MOPMan
Jan 29th, 2006, 5:13 am
May I add a post here for help? We want to buy your used stock crash (tip over)bars. We need about another 12 before we can finish our next production run of Model O. We pay up to $40 if they aren't bent. Paint scratches aren't a problem because we repaint them. If interested please check the post MOPMan2 put in WTB or our web site.

steamboatjohn
Feb 6th, 2006, 8:16 am
Dave, I think I see that you have Suburban footpeg relocators. Do the pegs intrude on the back of your ankles? How about cornering clearance? Is there a diiference, having to put your feet back on pegs for sharper turns?
Oh, I now see that you include the phrase controlled access roads..... Thoughts, please?
Thanks in advance as well as for the good review.

DaveDragon
Feb 6th, 2006, 10:04 am
I have not had an issue with the peg relocators.

That being said, there is limited room between the front edge of the rider foot peg and the back edge of the chrome piece that wraps around the tip over wing.

I have not found this to be an issue at all for me.

Controlled Access roads such as Highways and Interstates present no problems unless there are twisties such as I-70 from Denver West where you may scrape the pegs.

rixchard
Feb 7th, 2006, 2:57 pm
I had a set installed at CCR and love them. one caveat, The foot peg can at time get hooked on the cuff of your pant leg if you are putting your foot down for a stop and your boots comes bit too close to the foot peg

the1mavin
Feb 10th, 2006, 7:04 pm
Hi all,

I don't have any other highway pegs and chose the Mick-o-pegs for the non-gyno position. I am only about 5'7" so putting my feet up on the wings or even next to them feels like a stetch.

When I called to order they were very friendly and told me the pegs would be there in just three days. Having dealt with many parts dealers, I didn't really believe it. I was very happy to say they did show up in three days as promised.

I wasn't able to complete my install in one sitting due to other circumstances, but I would say the total time taken was a bit over an hour.

The part arrived well packed in newspapers and all seem to be of very high quality.
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/BoxContents.JPG
Package contents

The crash bars are replaced as part of the install. There is a small plastic/rubber piece on the top of the crash bars near the rear (right side of the crash bar in the pic) that were not present on my originals and made the replacement of the covers a tight fit.
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/ReplacementCrashBar.JPG
Replacement crash bar

The kit includes good instructions with templates for cutting the black plastic crash bar covers.
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/Template.JPG
Templates
http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/TemplateWing.JPG
Template on Wing

The templates didn't work out for me on either side--I had to enlarge both holes by about 1/4". The bolts use a large washer, so I installed the cover and inserted the bolt with the washer and traced the edge of the washer with a razor. I then used a die grinder to make the hole the proper size.

http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/Enlarged.JPG
Enlarged holes

Although it wasn't mentioned in the instructions I used some semi-permanant locktite to install the three bolts. I have had pegs come loose before and it was a bit scary--hopefully the locktite doesn't hurt anything.

http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/SideView.JPG
View from the side

http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/7/9/8/5/RidersView.JPG
Riders view

Weather here isn't too great right now, but I managed to ride about 100 miles , maybe 40 on the pegs. The comfort level is great. Being a short guy I am left with just a slight bend in the knees. The miles I put on them were on straight highway. I am way to addicted to riding the curves quickly so I won't even try riding the twisties with my feet on them.

The only complaint I had will surely be a great feature in the summer... The position had the wind going straight up my pant legs. Since it was only 35-40 degrees it was a bit chilly. I'm sure I'll be loving it come summer.

Tim

steamboatjohn
Feb 12th, 2006, 12:27 am
Thanks for the replies!

tmgs
Mar 27th, 2006, 10:24 am
I have not had an issue with the peg relocators.

That being said, there is limited room between the front edge of the rider foot peg and the back edge of the chrome piece that wraps around the tip over wing.

I have not found this to be an issue at all for me.

Controlled Access roads such as Highways and Interstates present no problems unless there are twisties such as I-70 from Denver West where you may scrape the pegs.


so your saying you better ride slow up here then <grin>

Tom hehehehe

tmgs
Mar 27th, 2006, 10:26 am
Dave, I think I see that you have Suburban footpeg relocators. Do the pegs intrude on the back of your ankles? How about cornering clearance? Is there a diiference, having to put your feet back on pegs for sharper turns?
Oh, I now see that you include the phrase controlled access roads..... Thoughts, please?
Thanks in advance as well as for the good review.


up here i ahd the suburban pegs on my bike one day, they drug like crazy through the curves here in N Ga, I sent them to Jinks he lives in FL <g>

Ask Messy 13 about the lowering pegs, he took them off on 60 on the way up to Suches he actually lifter his rear tire off the ground one time scraping!

Tom

dmatson
Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:16 pm
I took mine off to because of the easy scrapping. They don't just scrape, the front lower edge of the block that the peg is attached to digs in and when the rear tire pops up in the air it's scary!

rixchard
Aug 4th, 2006, 7:44 am
Bought a set last year at CCR and I agree with your bangforbucks statement. The comfort level is fantastic.

RVB1019
Aug 4th, 2006, 9:21 am
I had a set installed at STC in April. Love 'em for slabbing, hate 'em in the twisties.

I truly believe that I was able to do the 16 hour ride home from STC in one day is because I was able to change my leg positions in a number of different ways. These pegs are wonderful. You just have to remember to take your feet of them going into any sort of curve.

FWIW, your feet are supposed be on the pegs for optimum control entering and exiting a curve anyway.

UncleRock
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:43 am
I agree they are the best bang for your buck in leg position relief.
Very easy install, (unless you use the tip over bars for slider's, like some folks.) start on the side of the bike closet to the tool box will cut 10 minutes off. Also I didn't have the bumper guards on, so a few more screws I didn't need to remove.
They are not perfect or flawless, rust started showing on fastners after about 5K.
And this from Joe " You got SAE on a metric bike? "
They grab your pants all the time (they warn you about this in the paperwork) when you go to put your foot on the ground.
All that said, they are worth every penny, the more you ride, the better you'll like them.
Rock

grifscoots
Aug 4th, 2006, 6:00 pm
Hey Dave, I see someone else likes SOLAS tape.

Sunderland
Aug 5th, 2006, 1:42 pm
I'm about to spring for a set of Mick 0 Pegs. Question: Do the arms ever rub against the lower fairing and consequently scratch paint? One or two of the pictures shown on the Mick o Peg website made me wonder. Thanks for the help.

RVB1019
Aug 5th, 2006, 8:33 pm
Nope, not a problem on mine. Like UncleRock said, pants getting stuck on them is the biggest problem.

Sunderland
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:17 am
Thanks Rob. Good to know that they don't scratch the paint.

bflemingor
Oct 21st, 2006, 8:24 pm
My new LT has floorboards (the prior owner was a Harley nut), and I don't have the stock pegs. Will the MOPs work with them??
Thanks

MOPMan
Oct 23rd, 2006, 8:02 pm
Although Mick-O-Pegs on your K1200LT will have your feet down and forward of the stock foot peg position, your ankles should clear the floorboards unless they are huge! On the left side, the Mick-O-Peg rotates down just past the part of the sidestand which sticks up and out, so when you put your foot on the left peg, your heel should be slightly out and forward of the end on that part of the sidestand. My guess is that your floorboards aren't so large that you don't have access to raising the sidestand while sitting on the bike.

Bamabear
Jun 19th, 2007, 11:39 am
Dave and all,

I have to get something to help with my knees. I need something that won't scrape through the twisties but will give me some comfort. I am 6 feet tall with a 31" inseam and I also have standard foot pegs.

I have read this whole tread, but was wondering if the Mick-o-pegs would scrape while they were in the up position. The cost of J-pegs are too expensive and not sure I would like hanging my feet up there. Also, are the highway ottomans up above the crash extenders? That may be an option.



Thanks in advance....

DaveDragon
Jun 19th, 2007, 12:33 pm
Dave and all,

I have to get something to help with my knees. I need something that won't scrape through the twisties but will give me some comfort. I am 6 feet tall with a 31" inseam and I also have standard foot pegs.

I have read this whole tread, but was wondering if the Mick-o-pegs would scrape while they were in the up position. The cost of J-pegs are too expensive and not sure I would like hanging my feet up there. Also, are the highway ottomans up above the crash extenders? That may be an option.



Thanks in advance....

I've scraped just about everything on the LT that's scrapable, but never scraped a M.O.P.

ljjohns
Jan 26th, 2008, 3:46 pm
My O-model MOPs came Friday (really quick and friendly service) and I did an initial install this morning in about 30 minutes (haven't cut the openings in the rubber wing tips yet--that may take longer) so that I could join a RTE headed for Las Cruces.

These use the clamp to attach to the crash bars, so it's easy-on, easy off.
But on the RTE, after some struggling to locate them (without seeing them), I found that the front of my lower shins rubbed up against what I think is the back of the housing for the crash bars. I could rest the ball of my feet on the pegs, but I really had to twist and turn to get my arches on them.

I'll play some more with minute adjustments to the positioning of the clamps (should the pegs be perfectly parallel to the ground? Mine tilt up on the outside). Anything else I should try?

Larry Johnson
2003 LT-C
El Paso TX