The Virgins....

[cfell]

A Catholic perspective...

[loansumrider]

Amen...

[BennyBob]

You boys better go to confession! ;)

[DaveDragon]

I love the bullshit about 72 virgins in heaven.
I attended a siminar at USF conducted by a local Mullah in Tampa and he explained that the actual language of the text indicates their reward will be "White Raisins".

Just a slight difference in interpretation http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

I guess it's tough to recruit Suicide Bombers with dried fruit.

Christoph Luxenberg's book, Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, available only in German, came out just over a year ago, but has already had an enthusiastic reception, particularly among those scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic languages at Princeton, Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, Aix-en-Provence, and the Oriental Institute in Beirut.

Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear if we read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go into the technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris.

[wacolt]

I understood martyrs would be met by 72 virginians; some famous people from Virginia include the following.

Nathaniel Bacon (1647-1676) led "Bacon's Rebellion" against British authority in 1676

George Rogers Clark (1752-1818) Charlottesville; Revolutionary War soldier captured Northwest Territories from British;

Patrick Henry (1736-1799) Hanover; orator; patriot leader; famous for "liberty or death" speech; governor Home: Red Hill -

Henry "Lighthorse Harry" Lee – (1756-1818) Prince William County; Revolutionary War hero; father of Robert E. Lee;

Richard Henry Lee – (1732-1794) Westmoreland County; presented the proposal for independence to Continental Congress in 1776; Home: Stratford Hall-

George Mason – (1725-1792) Fairfax County; author of Virginia Declaration of Rights Home: Gunston Hall -

Daniel Morgan – (1736-1802) Shenandoah Valley; Revolutionary War soldier; leader of "Morgan's Rifles"

Pocahontas – (1595-1617) daughter of Indian Chief Powhatan; married John Rolfe

Peyton Randolph – (1721-1775) Williamsburg; President of First Continental Congress; h

John Smith – (1579-1631) leader of first settlement at Jamestown;

George Wythe – (1726-1806) Hampton; first professor of law in an American college, the College of William and Mary;

Stephen F. Austin – (1793-1836) leader of Texas independence from Mexico movement;

James Barbour – (1775-1842) Orange County; Secretary of War (1825-1828);

Philip P. Barbour – (1783-1841); Speaker of the House (1821-1823), Supreme Court Justice (1836-1841).

Henry Clay – (1777-1852) Hanover County; famous orator and statesman; moved to Kentucky after youth in Virginia.

Peter V. Daniel – (1784 – 1860) Stafford County; Supreme Court Justice (1841-1860)

John B. Floyd – (1806 – 1863) Smithfield; Governor of Virginia (1849-1852); Secretary of War (1857-1861)

Thomas W. Gilmer – Secretary of the Navy (1844)

Sam Houston – (1793-1863) Rockbridge County; Governor of Tennessee (1827-1829); first President of Republic of Texas (1836-1838);

Charles Lee – (1731-1782) Cheshire, England; Attorney General (1795-1801)

John Marshall – (1755-1835) Fauquier County; Chief Justice of Supreme Court (1805-1835); \
John Y. Mason – (1799-1859) Greensville County; Secretary of the Navy (1844-1849), Attorney General (1845-1846);

Edmund Randolph – (1753-1813) Williamsburg; First Attorney General of the United States (1789-1794); Secretary of State (1794-1795); Governor of Virginia (1786)-

John Randolph – (1727-1784) Williamsburg; congressman, political writer;

Winfield Scott – (1786-1866) Petersburg; General, hero of Mexican-American War;

Alexander H. H. Stuart –(1807-1891) Staunton; Secretary of the Interior (1850-1853);

Abel P. Upshur – (1790-1844) Northampton County; Secretary of the Navy (1841-1843)

William Wirt – (1772-1834) Bladensburg, MD; Attorney General (1817-1829)

Jubal Early- (1816–1894) Franklin County; Confederate general;

A.P. Hill – (1825-1865) Culpeper; Confederate general;

Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson – (1824-1863) Clarksburg; Confederate general;

Joseph E. Johnston – (1807-1891) Prince Edward County; Confederate general; first commander of Confederate Army.

Fitzhugh Lee – (1835-1905) Confederate general; Governor of Virginia; commanded United States forces in Cuba during Spanish-American War (1898);

Robert E. Lee – (1807-1870) Westmoreland County; Commanding general, Confederate Army of Northern Virginia;

John Singleton Mosby – (1833-1916) Edgemont; "The Gray Ghost", Confederate cavalry commander;

George Pickett – (1825-1875) Richmond; Confederate general, led fateful charge at Battle of Gettysburg;

J.E.B. Stuart – (1933-1864) Patrick County; Confederate general;

Henry H. Fowler – (1908-2000) Roanoke; Secretary of the Treasury (1965-1968);

Carter Glass – (1858-1946) Lynchburg; Secretary of the Treasury (1918-1920);

John O. Marsh Jr. – (1926- ) Winchester; Secretary of the Army (1980-1989);

Lewis F. Powell Jr. – (1907-1998) Suffolk; Supreme Court Justice (1972-1990);

Claude A. Swanson – (1862-1939) Pittsylvania County; Secretary of the Navy (1933-1940);

Maggie L. Walker – (1867-1934) Richmond; first woman bank president in America, advocate of black women's rights;

John W. Warner – (1927- ) Amherst County; Secretary of the Navy (1972-1974); U.S. Senator (1979-present);

L. Douglas Wilder – (1931- ) Richmond; First elected African-American Governor in U.S. history;

Those martyr dudes are gonna be pi$$ed!

[gunny]

You missed Lewis Puller LtGen USMC.

[jayjacobson]

A Catholic perspective...
:eek: Just add a free knee ride and they're DOUBLE F'D! :histerica

[cfell]

:eek: Just add a free knee ride and they're DOUBLE F'D! :histerica


Looking back, the "Sisters" and "Brothers" never gave me any discipline I didn't deserve... God bless 'em.

[DaveDragon]

Looking back, the "Sisters" and "Brothers" never gave me any discipline I didn't deserve... God bless 'em.

The "Sisters" in the Jesuit archdiocese where I attended Primary School were Brutal and Mean. Especially to the three non-cathaholic kids in the school.

I guess they figured that since we weren't their kinda "Christians", they were bound to beat any and all original thought or action out of us. Didn't work, I still hate em'.

[cfell]

The "Sisters" in the Jesuit archdiocese where I attended Primary School were Brutal and Mean. Especially to the three non-cathaholic kids in the school.

I guess they figured that since we weren't their kinda "Christians", they were bound to beat any and all original thought or action out of us. Didn't work, I still hate em'.

Dave... sorry that happened.... glad to see you were strong enough to not let it affect you.

[simoncharles]

It did ! He still hates them.

[DaveDragon]

Dave... sorry that happened.... glad to see you were strong enough to not let it affect you.

Actually, I don't waste my time with Hatred. But if I did, I would focus it on those whom were the offendors, back in the day.

[Maximus]

I'm Catholic and Proud and I say it LOUD! :wave

[grifscoots]

The "Sisters" in the Jesuit archdiocese where I attended Primary School were Brutal and Mean. I genuflected a water fountain while walking down the hall while in second grade. Remind me to show you the scars.

[jayjacobson]

Looking back, the "Sisters" and "Brothers" never gave me any discipline I didn't deserve... God bless 'em.
I was talking about a little different kind of knee ride! :histerica BUT, +1. :D