New highway pegs for your R1200RT

[MOPMan]

If you are considering highway pegs for your R1200RT, you may be glad to see the new posting which can be found in the Site Sponsor's sub forum for "Riding Is Wonderful (http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44503)".

[cali_beemer]

sweet, mick-o-pegs for the 1200RT. Sounds like one more farkle I may need to ad. I would like to see pictures though.

[MOPMan]

'Will post pictures as soon as we install as set at Bike Week. We'll be set up at the New Smyrna Beach Airport. There is a picture of our prototype on our prototypes page of our web site. The production version will have cleaner cuts and bends.

[MOPMan]

UPDATE

We are leaving a GW Rally in AL early, with plans to dig our R1200RT out of the snow next week, mount a production set of R12R Mick-O-Pegs, take some pictures, post them on our web site (by Friday night 4/3) and have it at the MCBeemers Club meeting in Detroit Sat (4/4).

PS. no one with an RT found us at Bike Week and we have been at GW rallies since then.

[peterb]

[QUOTE=MOPMan]UPDATE

... mount a production set of R12R Mick-O-Pegs, take some pictures, post them on our web site (by Friday night 4/3) and have it at the MCBeemers Club meeting in Detroit Sat (4/4)...

...waiting :wave ...

[Billy]

I have the Elf Pegs and they so not let me get my legs straight enough. I was told that the Mick o Pegs can be much more damaging if you drop the bike. I don't know if this is true or not but because of that I have been planning to buy the Touratech engine guards and mount Kuryakyn pegs on it.

[ddking]

I have the Elf Pegs and they so not let me get my legs straight enough. I was told that the Mick o Pegs can be much more damaging if you drop the bike. I don't know if this is true or not but because of that I have been planning to buy the Touratech engine guards and mount Kuryakyn pegs on it.

How could anyone know if they're more damaging if no one has them yet. :confused:

[Billy]

The dealer said it was because of the way the pegs are mounted to the bolts. Perhaps they are not made to break off in the case of a tip over as the Elf pegs are?

[ddking]

The dealer said it was because of the way the pegs are mounted to the bolts. Perhaps they are not made to break off in the case of a tip over as the Elf pegs are?

OK. Thanks. Now this makes sense. Since the dealer sells Elf pegs, has never seen MOPs and can't make any money selling them, he is speculating to make a sale...although he might truly believe what he says. Is this the Marietta dealer or Blue Moon? Paul at Blue Moon has had experience with MOPs for the LT, but no dealer has any experience with MOPs for the RT.

[MOPMan]

This is long, so grab another cup...When designing Mick-O-Pegs, our emphasis is providing comfort for riders but we also try not to have a product that may cause additional damage when the bike falls.

We have laid our RT down (both sides) and the results look promising - but we have not dropped it from an upright position. Please keep in mind that we are a small company with not a lot of R&D money. Maybe we should consider offering some money (maybe $50) to customers who do end up dropping their bike with Mick-O-Pegs if they share either positive or negative observations... We're thinking about that.

There is a difference when riding because the suspension changes things, but at rest, when laying the bike down on a garage floor, the bottom edge of our 'cover' hits the pavement just before the top curved part of the bracket, stock foot peg and the tip of our 'peg' do. I will soon be posting pictures on our web site.

When riding through a curve the suspension is loaded which makes the first point of contact (still) the lower edge of our 'cover' which will grind away before the feeler under the stock foot peg does. There is a lot of aircraft aluminum you can grind off while riding before the Mick-O-Peg would become dysfunctional. We have had several Gold Wing riders bring to rallies or mail to us fully functional Mick-O-Pegs following an accident where their bike was totaled and much of the Mick-O-Pegs was ground away by the road.

I took the new R12R Mick-O-Pegs to the Grand Rapids Dealership yesterday on the way home from Frankfort, where we had just installed them on our R1200RT. They liked them and one of them mentioned another aftermaket product attached to the valve cover bolts was involved in stripped threads in valve cover bolts, but another mechanic said that he has seen that in several valve covers that had no aftermarket modifications/add ons. So damage to valve cover bolts being stripped has been a concern for some - but not necessarily from being dropped.

As we understand BMW's design intentions with the valve cover gasket and bolts - the bolts don't need to be strong to hold the valve cover in place. To limit damage to the gasket, there is a shoulder just above the threaded end so you can't crush the gasket. Those bolts are intended to have very little torque - have you checked out just how little?? It appears that many people have not checked the torque and have caused the damage by over tightening. It may be as simple as a even a mechanic using a power tool - with the wrong torque setting. It could happen.

Here's our experience with dropping the RT from an upright position: none.

Our RT was dropped on a pothole filled gravel driveway before we bought it. The right valve cover is scuffed from the fall. If Mick-O-Pegs had been on it at that time, I can't understand how any ADDITIONAL damage could be caused by them being mounted there. The Mick-O-Pegs may have even reduced some of the rash on the valve cover.

As explained on our web site, our bracket mounts using the forward two bolts and stock rubber bushings. Our bracket is machined out from both sides to receive the head of the bolt (with the washer removed) from the outside. The back side of the bracket is machined out to receive the stock rubber piece. Thus, our bracket serves like a slightly thicker washer and surrounds the bolt heads. Our instructions will include a caution that if tightened until the shoulder bottoms out, you may be crushing your gasket. Instead, just tighten it to about as tight as the back two valve cover bolts felt just before they bottomed out. Does that make sense?

Mick-O-Pegs are not intended to support the riders total weight but I straighten my legs to push myself back in the seat several times during the 300+ mile ride home yesterday. No observable problems to report. I weigh about 190 pounds.

Additional damage being CAUSED by Mick-O-Pegs?? We try to design a product that does not. During our past 8 years of providing Mick-O-Pegs to some Honda riders there have been far fewer reports of riders saying their Mick-O-Peg caused additional damage than reports of rider saying because of their Mick-O-Pegs, there was less damage to their bike.

Should I make it official? Should we offer (the first 3 or 4) customers $50 to provide either a positive or negative report of their experience with dropping their R1200RT equipped with Mick-O-Pegs?

One of our first few customers to have Mick-O-Pegs on their K1200LT was Roger P. You may have met him (green LT) at CCR in the Grand Teton National Park a few years back. Roger is short and used to level ground here in SE MI. He announced to a few people out at the CCR that he had become the 'tester' for Mick-O-Peg damage when the LT was dropped. Three times on the way out, Roger dropped his bike - each time he tumbled off so he didn't break the bike's fall. The only damage caused by the Mick-O-Pegs was a small nick in the fairing under the tip over bar where our 'leg' flexed in and put a 1/8" nick in the trailing edge of the hole under the tip over bar. We modified the shape of out 'leg' after his experience so that damage should be eliminated. I don't recall any other negative reports (for the LT) since Roger's (and the road rash on the saddle bags and tip over bar cover were much greater than the little nick our early model K12O caused).

Does anyone see any potential for damage done by the R12R Mick-O-Pegs that we don't see?

[ddking]

Pictures (http://www.ridingiswonderful.com/id65.html) are up.

[MOPMan]

Since the R1200R has the same valve covers, our latest Mick-O-Peg should fit equally well on the R1200R. The position should provide more comfort than on the R1200RT without the fairing being an issue for taller riders.

On Saturday at our Club meeting, we did discover that two other engine guards don't allow Mick-O-Pegs to be mounted.