And now you'll know . . . the REST of the story!

[messenger13]

On December 4th, Dan posted a link of a video and asked "Who was at fault in this accident? (http://<b>http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3101)". "Cager or biker?"

Well...as we all should know by now, this internet is smaller than we realize and stories get around fast. My friend and riding buddy knows the guy in that video. He was riding a Kawasaki 250. He only suffered minor injuries and you can read about it IN THIS THREAD (http://forums.ninja250.org/viewtopic.php?p=422270#422270) on the Ninja250 Riders Club forum. It's kinda neat to read through our thread first, and then see whose speculations were more accurate than other's.

[Woolly]

On December 4th, Dan posted a link of a video and asked "Who was at fault in this accident? (http://%3Cb%3Ehttp://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3101)". "Cager or biker?"



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[mwnahas]

Thanks for that link Joe, I didn't think he was speeding.
Really like the part about being right, "dead right".
Happens all too often, wife asks who's fault would it have been.
His, but I'd be dead.

[danbrew]

On December 4th, Dan posted a link of a video and asked "Who was at fault in this accident? (http://<b>http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3101)". "Cager or biker?"

Well...as we all should know by now, this internet is smaller than we realize and stories get around fast. My friend and riding buddy knows the guy in that video. He was riding a Kawasaki 250. He only suffered minor injuries and you can read about it IN THIS THREAD (http://forums.ninja250.org/viewtopic.php?p=422270#422270) on the Ninja250 Riders Club forum. It's kinda neat to read through our thread first, and then see whose speculations were more accurate than other's.

Nice to know the guy is still alive - but it's too bad there wasn't a significant critical analysis of the accident. The biker basically says that the other driver was at fault, was an old lady, and "maybe" he was going too fast (but the speed limit).

This is one reason why I really really like BMWLT.com - we'd all be creating detailed reports on what we did wrong (if we did), what the other guy did, etc., etc., etc. -- net/net, we'd all learn something. All I learned from reading the posts at the link above is that the guy got into an accident, wishes he hadn't (no kidding), and was "doing the speed limit."

:)

[messenger13]

All I learned from reading the posts at the link above is that the guy got into an accident, wishes he hadn't (no kidding), and was "doing the speed limit.Well...there's a huge difference (or at least should be) with a Ninja 250 rider, and an LT rider. The average Ninja 250 rider rides an average of 2,000 to 3,000 miles per year. That figure comes from that very forum. I'm guessing the "average" LT rider rides at least 3 times that . . . if not, 5 to 6 times that amount per year. (I said "AVERAGE"!) The Ninja 250 is basically a starter bike, or a commuter bike. Although, IIRC, there were 2 of them in this year's Iron Butt Rally.

[motorman587]

The cage. And if I were working that crash the driver of cage would get ticket for same. Or in Florida a violation of right of way.

Sure, the M/C could have been speeding, but how r you going to prove in court. You can surely prove right of way violation.

Great video and glad the person is ok. Glad he went flying and not hitting the side. It is the sudden stop that gets us all.

And were was this rider looking? What happened to scanning? What happened to "there is a store up head and a car may or is turning"?

[gunny]

The cage. And if I were working that crash the driver of cage would get ticket for same. Or in Florida a violation of right of way.

Sure, the M/C could have been speeding, but how r you going to prove in court. You can surely prove right of way violation.

Great video and glad the person is ok. Glad he went flying and not hitting the side. It is the sudden stop that gets us all.

And were was this rider looking? What happened to scanning? What happened to "there is a store up head and a car may or is turning"?
Right you are! I beleive that of all of us, you have the greatest depth of knowledge and experience on these matters.

I try to pay atention to all that goes on around me but there are the distractions, things that take your mind off of the task at hand momentarily. Examples that come to mind: The girl changing out of her bathing suit while her boy friend/husband was driving up I 85, the dog chasing a motorcycle in front of you who looses sitational awarness and runs into a mailbox post, the advertising clown on the side of the road doing his best to catch your attention, this list goes on.

Glad the rider was OK.

[motorman587]

Very true and it happens to all of us. That one second of a distraction.

[rspyder]

The Ninja rider admitted he did not have his bright headlight on so that may have made a difference. Many times I see riders coming toward me with low beams only and it is very difficult to see them.