I didn't know whether to laugh or cry

[eljeffe]

well, if only if the crying is caused by intense laughter

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/105227/For-Clinton,-Millions-in-Debt-and-Few-Options

[KMC1]

I wonder how many people just go "wow, that's a lot of money" and don't go the extra step to think "wow, that's a lot of money... I wonder WHY in the world would someone spend that kind of their own money to get a job that pays $400,000 per year?" :think: Hmmmm... Doesn't that seem a little strange? Spend $20,000,000.00 ( or a HELL of a lot more than that :eek: (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/barack-obama-is-100m-man-2008-06-09.html) ) to make a bid for the CHANCE to get a job that will pay $1,600,000.00 over FOUR years? Hmmm.... now why would someone DO that? Don't people usually only do things with their money to allow themslevles to make MORE of it.. not less? Hmmmmm....Seems strange.... Maybe these people just REALLY REALLY REALLY love their country and want to get the job so they can try to make things better.....BWAHhahahahahaha :histerica :histerica

[grifscoots]

I love it! One option is for Obama to ask his contributors to help her pay her debt down. Let me think this leetle financial quandry through for Obama: "Do I help Clinton, who raked me over the coals and possibly hamstring my run, or do I tell her to jump off a bridge?"

Man, what a tough decision.

[Lzyellodog]

I wonder how many people just go "wow, that's a lot of money" and don't go the extra step to think "wow, that's a lot of money... I wonder WHY in the world would someone spend that kind of their own money to get a job that pays $400,000 per year?" :think: Hmmmm... Doesn't that seem a little strange? Spend $20,000,000.00 ( or a HELL of a lot more than that :eek: (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/barack-obama-is-100m-man-2008-06-09.html) ) to make a bid for the CHANCE to get a job that will pay $1,600,000.00 over FOUR years? Hmmm.... now why would someone DO that? Don't people usually only do things with their money to allow themslevles to make MORE of it.. not less? Hmmmmm....Seems strange.... Maybe these people just REALLY REALLY REALLY love their country and want to get the job so they can try to make things better.....BWAHhahahahahaha :histerica :histerica

I think you are looking to short term. Think about the money Mr Clinton gets for public speaking engagements. Between 2001 and 2005 Clinton earned over $31,000,000 for speaking engagements. Now thats a pretty good return on your investment.

[norriscooper]

Between 2001 and 2005 Clinton earned over $31,000,000 for speaking engagements. Now thats a pretty good return on your investment.

And that will buy him alot of Lewinskys!

[DakotaDude]

I think you are looking to short term. Think about the money Mr Clinton gets for public speaking engagements. Between 2001 and 2005 Clinton earned over $31,000,000 for speaking engagements. Now thats a pretty good return on your investment.


The dog days of Bill's speaking engagements may be over. I never did understand the public's attraction to him and I wouldn't walk across the street to see him or Hillary. He made a campaign speech within 3 blocks of my office a couple of weeks ago, and then another speech, about a week later in Anaconda, MT while I was attending my neice's HS graduation. I couldn't even travel the 600 miles to Anaconda to get away from him.

I continue to hear rumblings about the Democratic party's desire to distance themselves from the Clintons; possibly the shine has tarnished. I have my doubts Hillary will be re-elected to her senatorial position....hope I'm not wrong.

Insofar as her campaign debt......let her sink.

[grifscoots]

I think you are looking to short term. Think about the money Mr Clinton gets for public speaking engagements. Between 2001 and 2005 Clinton earned over $31,000,000 for speaking engagements. Now thats a pretty good return on your investment.Ahhh, but that's personal money. Look at Hilary's campaign as a corporation.

[jayjacobson]

I think you are looking to short term. Think about the money Mr Clinton gets for public speaking engagements. Between 2001 and 2005 Clinton earned over $31,000,000 for speaking engagements. Now thats a pretty good return on your investment.
I think you may have TOTALLY MISSED HIS POINT. But, I digress.
And that will buy him alot of Lewinskys!
I dink I ruv you!
The dog days of Bill's speaking engagements may be over....I continue to hear rumblings about the Democratic party's desire to distance themselves from the Clintons; possibly the shine has tarnished....
Wow! The GREATEST president to EVER walk the face of the Earth? The smartest woman in history and a shoe-in for 2008? Why what possibly could have happened?! :histerica

[DakotaDude]

Wow! The GREATEST president to EVER walk the face of the Earth? The smartest woman in history and a shoe-in for 2008? Why what possibly could have happened?! :histerica

Thankfully, SANITY HAPPENED!!

[zippy_gg]

And that will buy him alot of Lewinskys!The oral version, for what I am told!:histerica

[jayjacobson]

The oral version, for what I am told!:histerica
How about proper handling of the "evidence" this time? :D

[KMC1]

The GREATEST president to EVER walk the face of the Earth? The smartest woman in history and a shoe-in for 2008? Why what possibly could have happened?! :histerica
:histerica :histerica So many comments... so little time.... :histerica :histerica

This sort of sums it up...

When President Truman retired from office in 1952, his income was substantially a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting he was paying for stamps and personally licking them, granted him an "allowance" and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.

When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the president, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale." Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

We now see others who have found a new level of success in cashing in on the presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress, too, become wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale.

[jayjacobson]

:histerica :histerica So many comments... so little time.... :histerica :histerica

This sort of sums it up...
Yes! And a little sarcasm can go a long way....

$13,507.22 is worth $109,500.71 in 2008 dollars and $25,000 is worth $202,663.21.

[walkingdude]

I know what I will do, cry. I think she was the only candidate running who could undo the damage Bush has done to the economy, foreign policy and American freedoms. I look back at the Clinton Administration with great fondness, high employment, soaring economy, no permeative wars and no spying on American citizens, then I look where we are today and yes, I cry.

[jayjacobson]

I know what I will do, cry. I think she was the only candidate running who could undo the damage Bush has done to the economy, foreign policy and American freedoms. I look back at the Clinton Administration with great fondness, high employment, soaring economy, no permeative wars and no spying on American citizens, then I look where we are today and yes, I cry.
And we're so incredibly stupid that she didn't even get the chance! :rotf: :histerica

[RVB1019]

Errrr....did anyone check out Prez Georgie's debt for the past 8 years? She was just trying to keep up with the Georgie and Dick show!

[WildBil]

The average investment in the US Presidency is around $100 MM. For both the winner and the looser, and growing. I the grand scheme of things, what Hillary owes is farily minor. My guess is that it will be retired wihin a year or less.

George and Dick do not make a lot, but I hate to think what their oil holdings will be worth when they walk away, and as retirement benefits go, they ain't too bad for Pres/VP.

What else did we expect with two oilmen at the helm.

[RVB1019]

Don't forget their holdings in Haliburton or their "friendship" with the Saudis!

Michael Moore is GOD!

http://unclemeat.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/michaelmoore.jpg

:stir:

[RVB1019]

Never let it be said that I am not a fair and balance sniper!


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x201/flyingv66_2007/hillary_clinton.jpg

[jayjacobson]

....George and Dick do not make a lot, but I hate to think what their oil holdings will be worth when they walk away, and as retirement benefits go, they ain't too bad for Pres/VP.

What else did we expect with two oilmen at the helm.
AND don't forget about everyone invested in EVIL big oil! Can't wait until the next "oilman" gets elected pres.
....Michael Moore is GOD!
AND a friggin' NUT!

[RVB1019]

Hey now! Don't slander someone else's God!

Wait a second, that debate is in another thread!:p

[jayjacobson]

Hey now! Don't slander someone else's God!

Wait a second, that debate is in another thread!:p
Once AGAIN, I STAND CORRECTED! I had NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER to slander the Church of the Most High HEATHEN. :D

[Ted Shred]

well, if only if the crying is caused by intense laughter

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/105227/For-Clinton,-Millions-in-Debt-and-Few-Options

What a scam. She "borrows" money from some of her closest friends/advisors and they just forgive the debt. What a crock of shit. So much for campagne finanace laws.

165k for cel phones. That's just crazy. I though AT&T had a $100 unlimted plan??:)