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kellenbenz
Apr 12th, 2008, 9:28 pm
I am writing this post for Brian, but others may benefit from some of the information…..so why not make a post out of it.

Brian had a question about which intercom system was installed in his 2000 LTC. We met at the RTE in Centerville, Texas today and I was able to identify it as the J&M built BC3 Comm System. This post will apply to that system.

Brian was looking for an audio output from the intercom to use for some earphone speakers. After I left him I thought of one other way that he can accomplish that if he does not need a microphone…other than that he will need headsets. The option is to use this adapter from CycleGadgets and connect it to the headset jack on the left front panel.

http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=HA

If he wishes to go the headset route, Sierra Electronics is a dealer for J&M and has a couple different quality headsets to offer. Their headsets come with an upper 8 pin cord that is universal and will allow you to connect many different bikes by using a specific lower cord for that bike. In the case of the LT, it would be for a 6 pin system. The available headsets and cords also depend on the style of helmet that they are to be installed. Here is a link to the many options:

http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=312

I use an open face helmet with the economy headset and lower cord…this one:

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=JM-HS-BCD257-UN

using the cord option of JM-HC PWY

That combination costs $90 for the headset and $21.50 for the lower cord
The difference between this and the BMW headset and cord is the length of the rider cord and shape of it. If the jack on the bike is located on the left front panel next to the Bike Computer, the cord needs to be longer and not coiled at that end. It then drapes over or under the handlebars so as not to interfere with them. I cured this problem by making a 16 inch extension cord with normal 6 pin din jacks and plugs bought at Radio Shack. I have this attached by an Adel clamp to the left bar. A Photo is attached. A better way to cure this would be to relocate the jack from next to the Bike Computer to the flat black horizontal panel under the left handlebar…I have seen some in that position on newer bikes.

Brian’s next question was about the CB radio. His LT has everything already installed, however the CB itself is missing. There were 2 different Midland CB’s that were used in that time period. One was the 75-830 and the other was the 75-820. Brian’s appeared to have the base that uses the 75-820. The 75-820 and the 75-822 are interchangeable. This one is still available online from a few places. Here is a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Midland-75-822-Handheld-Vehicle-Adapter/dp/B00000K2YR

The link below will probably do more good than any of my help. It will take you to the pdf file that is the Comm System Manual.

http://www.bmwlt.com/files/albums/userpics/10430/ComSystem%20Owners%20Manual%202002.pdf

I hope this has helped clear up things….if you have any questions please just ask.

Ron Kellenbenz

wildwestrider
Apr 13th, 2008, 1:55 pm
You are a veritable encyclopedia of information when it comes to Com systems Ron.

Thanks so much for taking the time to research and answer my questions here.

I think I will take the route of relocating my Multi (6?) pin female connector to the Stingray.....Sierra has a picture of this arrangement on there webpage........would I do that with a Male/female multi pin extenstion cord or is there a way to do it that would allow the existing multi pin jack by the computer to be moved to the stingray area,....then I could add another 12 volt jack in the old com jack location.....??

Brian

kellenbenz
Apr 13th, 2008, 3:20 pm
Brian,

That harness going next to the Bike computer actually plugs in under the stingray. I think it is possible to just relocate it with the existing length. When you have it apart next time take a look. Let me know if I am correct.

Ron

kellenbenz
Apr 13th, 2008, 3:29 pm
Go to the following link (which is the installation manual for your Comm System) and look at instruction # 20 and 21......item 4 in the drawing on item 20 is that cable. In item 21 it shows where it plugs into the Red Din connector under the stingray. That appears to me would have plenty of length to relocate.

http://www.bmwlt.com/files/albums/userpics/10430/ComSystemInstructions.pdf

I see no reason why you couldn't use the old hole by the BC to put a power connector in. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Ron

wildwestrider
Apr 14th, 2008, 10:01 am
Ron,

I have an "Esnipe" bid pending on the 75-820 on ebay ($60) is the roof mount antenna a valuable item? (dont know if I would ever use it)

There are many Midland 75-822s on eBay.....any idea if they will work?

Brian

kellenbenz
Apr 14th, 2008, 12:22 pm
Brian,

The 822 is a very slight change from the 820 it should work fine with your system. Actually the manual for the 2 radios is the same manual.

http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus/store/catalog/75_822.pdf

You can note on the link below that the adapter listed in product accessories is the same for the 820 and 822.

http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3108

I actually have an extra 820 that the wife uses in the truck when she is pulling the travel trailer and I am riding the bike. The extra antenna comes in handy there.

Ron

wildwestrider
Apr 15th, 2008, 1:10 am
Ron, check out this link to a Sierra page. It shows the set up that moves the jack to the Stingray. Does this look like a good location to you? (I hate the idea that I will have to tear the bike apart again after just having put it back together).

Do I need the HC-PWY lower cord no matter where I have the jack??

Here's the link

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SIE%2DJCB03%2DBMW

kellenbenz
Apr 15th, 2008, 12:03 pm
Ron, check out this link to a Sierra page. It shows the set up that moves the jack to the Stingray. Does this look like a good location to you? (I hate the idea that I will have to tear the bike apart again after just having put it back together).

Do I need the HC-PWY lower cord no matter where I have the jack??

Here's the link

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SIE%2DJCB03%2DBMW

With the connector located as you have it right now, the HC-PWY cord will be too short. A BMW lower cord would work there.

The location shown on the Sierra page is showing the BMW 2003 CB unit installed instead of the factory unit like you have. That location would be fine for the length of the HC-PWY cord....however the jack is slightly different than yours in that it does not have the cover on it. I have seen people relocate it to the flat horizontal area to the left and below the location on the Sierra page. I am not sure if you could just remove that cover and install one of those rubber cord clamps like they show. I do believe that you would have enough cord to reach that location.


Ron

kellenbenz
Apr 15th, 2008, 12:18 pm
I just remembered that I had replaced one of the cords and jack from my 2000LTC. I don't throw anything away ( obviously) so I went to my junk bin and recovered it. Here is what you will be looking at to relocate. As you see it has the cover on the left end and just threads beyond that. This would preclude you locating it as is shown on the Sierra page.

I couldn't hold it straight and take the picture, but the length of it is 18 inches. The other end of it does plug in under the left side of the stingray...so you have many choices on where it could go.

Sometimes a picture helps clear thing up. Hope that helps,

Ron

wildwestrider
Apr 15th, 2008, 12:37 pm
Ron,

If you dont mind talking in person, could you email me a phone number where I can call you today. I would like to get whatever I need ordered today if possiblel

email it to my direct email: bcollins7@sbcglobal.net


Thanks, Brian

kellenbenz
Apr 15th, 2008, 1:28 pm
Email sent