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nelson61
Mar 13th, 2008, 7:07 pm
I found this pretty interesting. Check it out.

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line
of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to
get more of your money's worth for every gallon..



Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.



Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important
role.



A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.



When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some
other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
worth for your money.



One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here
where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that
every gallon is actually the exact amount.



Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is
being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
f the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get
the most value for your money.



DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!



WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON



Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might
even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
return the favor.



An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.



Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the
coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
their oil from the Saudis.



Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the
tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family,
and my friends.



I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are
the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern
oil.

Ron_Kendall
Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:17 pm
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important
role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.


Isn't the ground temp going to be the same below 3' all the time? ...I would agree don't top off your tank then park right away in the hot sun. As an example, I'm sure everyone has opened a gas can and heard the air escaping from the expanded gas.

cfell
Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:40 pm
I thought it was "temperature adjusted"... at least a little....of course the tank probably shrinks too.. ????

meese
Mar 23rd, 2008, 4:22 am
But you're really just talking about trivialities that might make you feel empowered, but really make no significant difference.

You can't solve such a problem with a quick-fix that doesn't really change your normal habits anyway. I know, it's the American Way, but it just plain doesn't work any better than the latest fad diet or well-meaning but useless petition.

If you really want to save money and give less of it to OPEC and the gas companies, then sell your gas guzzling SUV and buy a car that gets better mileage. Not some wannabe hybrid half-assed attempt either (and what's the point of a hybrid SUV, besides maybe smugness?). Instead look at a Jetta Diesel for example, which easily gets as good or better mileage than our bikes do.

Or just drive less. Now that might even work. :)

Ron_Kendall
Mar 23rd, 2008, 9:06 am
If you really want to save money and give less of it to OPEC and the gas companies, then sell your gas guzzling SUV and buy a car that gets better mileage. Not some wannabe hybrid half-assed attempt either (and what's the point of a hybrid SUV, besides maybe smugness?). Instead look at a Jetta Diesel for example, which easily gets as good or better mileage than our bikes do.

Or just drive less. Now that might even work. :)
Thats why I drive a Toyota Prius...averaging 53mpg.