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OU812
Dec 21st, 2007, 7:28 pm
My 02 LT cruise works sometimes and not. Hit a bump, and it disengages. What are the usual suspects for this problem?
Thanks!
Steve
grifscoots
Dec 21st, 2007, 9:59 pm
The microswitch at the clutch is usually the culprit in this case.
OU812
Dec 21st, 2007, 10:31 pm
Thanks for the reply. I have got to get it working right, before spring. Just wondering, how many switches are there to the cruise? :confused:
I have heard there are quite a few. :eek:
RDAWG
Dec 21st, 2007, 10:31 pm
Agree with cluch sensor adjustment. Had 06 that I bought ued with 9k on it w same problem. Dealer adjusted the switch at clutch and has been flawless for last 9k.....
best of luck and Merry Xmas!
Rich
dshealey
Dec 22nd, 2007, 7:48 am
I cannot remember when the speed sensor was removed from the final drive. If your '02 has this, the culprit is almost guaranteed to be the wire from it being partially cut where it is zip tied to the front end of the rubber brake line, at near the pivot point of the swing arm. This is very common, and will cause the cruise to kick out on bumps when the wire is flexed. I was the first to have this problem and posted about splicing the wire back, and over the years since many, many more have done so.
Watch the speedometer when riding over bumps and see if the needle flickers. If so, the problem is the wire.
If you do not have the speed sensor on the '02, then it is another problem.
OU812
Dec 22nd, 2007, 7:58 am
Thanks everyone for the help! I will be getting into it after the holidays.
Steve
Chockkicker
Dec 22nd, 2007, 9:43 am
I had same problem, it was front brake handle switch needed adjusting, try riding it with opposite force on the clutch handle, front brake handle and foot brake, this should help isolate the switch.
OU812
Dec 22nd, 2007, 10:10 am
I had same problem, it was front brake handle switch needed adjusting, try riding it with opposite force on the clutch handle, front brake handle and foot brake, this should help isolate the switch.
This I tried, and to no avail. It also does not engage all the time.
:( :confused:
tbarstow
Dec 23rd, 2007, 12:01 am
Search the Hall of Wisdom for the Cruise Control Diagnostic Procedure. It will tell you where the problem is.
In my case, I had 2 problems, the speed sensor wire and the throttle microswitch.
ademarzi
Dec 23rd, 2007, 1:44 am
Sometimes a bent (or partially bent) foot brake lever could also be the culprit. Have you dropped it lately? Don't ask how I know.:o
gdroege
Dec 23rd, 2007, 8:31 am
That's exactly what happened on my 99. The wire was cut where the zip tie was attached. In my case, however, the cruise had quit working altogether.
OU812
Dec 23rd, 2007, 10:34 am
Is the "Hall of Wisdom" the archived treads? I saw a few in there about steps. Just can't find the one with the steps laid out. :confused:
No I never dropped it, but the previous owner had(not moving). It only had 1200 miles on it, but I can see with all the switches, any one or more could be causing it.
Thanks!
Steve
Dick
Dec 23rd, 2007, 12:14 pm
Is the "Hall of Wisdom" the archived treads? I saw a few in there about steps. Just can't find the one with the steps laid out. :confused:
No I never dropped it, but the previous owner had(not moving). It only had 1200 miles on it, but I can see with all the switches, any one or more could be causing it.
Thanks!
Steve
Steve - take a look at this (http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=K1200LT&Number=135159&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&vc=1) by Joel.
OU812
Dec 23rd, 2007, 1:37 pm
Thanks Dick! I will try this as soon as my wife let's me have the time. :histerica
azredline
Dec 24th, 2007, 4:04 pm
Just went through this too. On a previous failure, it was the clutch switch. This time the dealer said they repositioned the throttle cable and it started working. Said they cut a zip tie holding the cable in place and this allowed them to repositon the cable and it worked. Took them only a min to find it, said they have seen it before. I was in a hurry so they left it at that and they will look closer when I have it in for something else in the future. Just took it on a 1k mi ride this weekend and it worked the entire time.
Happy holidays!
kip
Dec 24th, 2007, 4:49 pm
i had the same issue on my 99
was the wire going to the speed sensor just where it was tie wrapped to the frame around the brake stuff.....had to strip back the wire and solder it together.....fixed it and its been fixed for 2 years
IF you watch ur speedo closely ...and its that wire....you will note a little jump in the speedo when you hit a bump or something.....it doesnt take much to knock the cruise off.....
just follow the wire from the sensor to where its crimped all to hell with some wire ties and thats where u are likely to find the problem!
OU812
Dec 24th, 2007, 5:37 pm
With all the salt on the roads here, just have to wait til it clears off. :(
Tom1200
Dec 26th, 2007, 3:46 pm
My cruise would stop working and I would find if I cleaned the metal plate between the foot brake adjusting screw and the sensor this would fix it every time. The paper towel would come out dirty from road grime.
Push down on the foot brake and you will see were there is a screw that adjusts the height of the foot brake but it also triggers the crush cut off.
OU812
Jan 5th, 2008, 9:55 pm
Steve - take a look at this (http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=K1200LT&Number=135159&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&vc=1) by Joel.
Well, I went through the diagnostic check, and got as far as twisting the throttle back. No light up. It does not tell you what to do at any point, when the test fails. And that is when mine did. I checked the cable adjustment accoring to my Clymer's, and still no positive light up on the full throttle twist to stop (with the motor off). :mad: :confused:
charlieg
Jan 6th, 2008, 8:09 am
I have also been trying to correct a cruise control problem on my '05. My crusie works fine below 60mph no problem setting and will hold. Between 60mph and 70mph I have trouble getting the cruise to set and it will hold intermittantly. Above 70mph where it is most needed, it will not set. During the diagnostic check everything is OK until the final process of spinning the rear tire, no light. I have checked the speed sensor clearance and have tried adjusting it in and out with no results. Any ideas why speed is effecting the
cruise control being able to set? -Chuck-
OU812
Jan 6th, 2008, 2:22 pm
I have tried this sequence:
http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=K1200LT&Number=135727&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0
Nothing past the on/off/set/res switch check is giving a positive response.
Help? :(
OU812
Jan 8th, 2008, 6:44 pm
Bump for help?
Guess it goes to the dealer. :o
grifscoots
Jan 8th, 2008, 6:54 pm
Bump for help?
Guess it goes to the dealer. :oOk, I'll say it again: the microswitch at the clutch is usually the culprit in this case.
OU812
Jan 8th, 2008, 9:26 pm
The microswitch at the clutch is usually the culprit in this case.
I checked out the Clymer's and there is a procedure, but it will take me awhile to get to it. Thanks!
grifscoots
Jan 8th, 2008, 11:14 pm
I checked out the Clymer's and there is a procedure, but it will take me awhile to get to it. Thanks!A couple of small screws to get to it, loosen the screw that holds the microswitch, move the microswitch, button it back up.
OU812
Jan 9th, 2008, 6:56 am
That is much less then the Clymer's test procedure. :eek:
Will give your advice a try. Thanks!
Steve
OU812
Jan 9th, 2008, 5:15 pm
This may sound stupid, but anyone try set the cc when the bike is on the center stand at speed? I don't have the balls to try this without affirmation. :rotf:
ibbones
Jan 10th, 2008, 10:53 am
A couple of small screws to get to it, loosen the screw that holds the microswitch, move the microswitch, button it back up.Does the switch need to be replaced or just cleaned? My CC is a part time'er as well. It works just about every time the temp is above 68-70* but when it drops lower, it is an "only sometime" unit.
OU812
Jan 10th, 2008, 7:15 pm
If I new which screws to loosen, and if there is a cover to remove 1st? I would have a clue as to what I was attempting. :confused: :histerica
grifscoots
Jan 10th, 2008, 8:14 pm
For others wondering the same thang, here (http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47964) is the exploded view from Max BMW parts fiche. Part #3 has to come off.
grifscoots
Jan 10th, 2008, 8:17 pm
Well, that didn't work worth a damn. Scroll down to 32- Steering, right underneath it is the exploded view of the clutch handlebar assembly. Double click it.
charlieg
Jan 11th, 2008, 12:24 pm
I have also been trying to correct a cruise control problem on my '05. My crusie works fine below 60mph no problem setting and will hold. Between 60mph and 70mph I have trouble getting the cruise to set and it will hold intermittantly. Above 70mph where it is most needed, it will not set. During the diagnostic check everything is OK until the final process of spinning the rear tire, no light. I have checked the speed sensor clearance and have tried adjusting it in and out with no results. Any ideas why speed is effecting the
cruise control being able to set? -Chuck-
My dealer suggested a new speed sensor. Put the new one on and no joy. Still have no cruise control over 65mph+-, part time cruise control from 50mph to 65mph and everthing works fine under 50mph. I guess I may have to let the dealer have a hand at it? -Chuck-
OU812
Jan 11th, 2008, 5:46 pm
The microswitch at the clutch is usually the culprit in this case.
It was. Big Thanks to Grifscoots on this one! :yeah:
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