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messenger13
Nov 27th, 2005, 5:28 pm
It's a known fact that most people do not like change. We are creatures of habit, for the most part I guess. I actually like change and welcome it typically...most of the time. But there certainly are some things that I hold on to for dear life. But...I digress.

I was looking over the Member List and realized that 2 out of the top 5 most-frequent posters no longer own an LT. Looking further, 3 out of the top 10! Yikes! As my eyes combed down even further, I saw many guys that currently do ride an LT...but the miles are starting to pile up, and I know for a fact that they are entertaining thoughts of...dare I say it . . . "OTHER" motorcycles!!! Perhaps a different BMW model, and some are even looking closely at other alternatives.

Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Who will be next? Who is going to announce that their LT is no longer in their stable? :eek:

Unfortunately for some...messy13 will be keeping his LT for awhile yet. The wifey likes it too much. Otherwise, I might even be tempted to keep my Ninja and trade the LT in on the new K1200GT this coming spring.

So . . .
What's your NEXT bike? And when? . . .

hoog62
Nov 27th, 2005, 6:28 pm
If Yamaha gets the FJR right this time, I'm going to have a hard time justifying the extra $4k (or more) for the GT. Of course, that'll replace the Sprint, not the LT.

TandemCyclist
Nov 27th, 2005, 6:38 pm
I don't care if someone owns an LT or not as long as they have credible information to pass along.

S2DOG
Nov 27th, 2005, 8:29 pm
Joe,

I have to tell you it's nice to see yor posts here again.

Anyway, to answer your question, I'll be seriously looking at an RT when the in line 4 comes installed.

How bout a poll, "How long will you be keeping your LT" or "What would you trade your LT for" then list several other brand and model bikes mentioned here.

What' ya' think?

messenger13
Nov 27th, 2005, 8:35 pm
"credible information"?!?! This is the internet, isn't it? If you read it, it must be true. :D

No, but really... This is NOT a thread about judging those who own an LT or not. I'm just wondering what the real average life expectency of the LT rider is. It seems there was a time when this forum ate, breathed, slept, and drank the K1200LT. As of late, I see a lot of other bikes talked about in here. And a lot of the "heavy-hitters" riding other machines. I find it kinda interesting. Nothing more...

messenger13
Nov 27th, 2005, 8:37 pm
Stew, thanks for the kind words. You know I wuvya man! :)

But as far as surveys, and polls, and blah, blah, blah... Naw! we're just having a casual conversation. That's all...

S2DOG
Nov 27th, 2005, 8:44 pm
Well, we all meed some Chit to Chat about! LOL!!

grifscoots
Nov 27th, 2005, 8:53 pm
It's a known fact that most people do not like change. But...I digress.



And I digest.

I'm planning on keeping mine, though she'll have 100 thou any day now. That is until the next gen LT comes out... for a few years to see how many rear drives fail and to find out what kind of oil to use.:p

bmwrider79
Nov 27th, 2005, 9:23 pm
I plan on keeping my LT for a long time besides the 1-1/2 years yet to pay on it.

That being said there are few other BMW bikes that cause me to drool over. I like the 2 new K1200 S & Rs The new RT has some features I like more than the LT. But I have not test driven any of them yet.

I am not sure I am mature enough to have a bike with 150+ horse power.

Economics aside the BMWs seem to have more built in goodies than other brands off the show room floor pre farkleized. If economics were a issue I would have a tougher time making a choice. There are very few comparable bikes that you can buy in any given bike type (except sport bikes) BMW vs Yam, Honda etc.. that are in my opinion are worth the trade off of features for lower price.

All that being said I only drive the LT 8000 miles a year so far. I have a 82 RT that I only drive 500 miles a year. That is wrong but the LT is so much more easier & fun to drive. So to add to the stable would be wrong on few levels. I was entertaining the thought of converting the RT to a S like the R90/S but the energy level and $$ are not present at this time.

dlancello
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:01 pm
We are all riders at heart. aren't we? We are just fortunate enough to have ridden the most luxurious sport bike made.
I would have a K12S in the garage but Revard in Inaianapolis closed before they were sent to dealers.
I still have my 1982 Honda Turbo that I ride 1000 miles per year but parts are getting very hard to find so, I went out this summer and bought a new Harley Street Rod and love it. It's sporty and solid yet tame enough to keep me out of trouble?
I guess my point is that it's all about the ride, and once you have owned an LT all others will be compaired to it.

patrick2000
Nov 27th, 2005, 10:23 pm
My 99LT is been one of the best bikes I've ever owned, however I would not replace it with another LT. My reasons are many, but none are the fault of the machine itself. In retrospect it is I who has changed. In the six years of ownership I have never used the sound system and the only add-on is the Forth Worth Rack. Still I think my bike has too much stuff on it. Today I seek simplicity , ease of maintenance and classic design in a motorcycle. My next mount will likely be used unless BMW comes up with something different to their latest offerings. I will probably be riding a R1100R or R1150R in the next couple of years. An R90S would be nice but I doubt I'll find one in the condition I want.

eljeffe
Nov 27th, 2005, 11:02 pm
Since I ride one-up, I've been looking for something to replace my LT, but I just haven't found anything that offers the balance of long distance creature comforts as well as the sport in the twisties. Since I bought the LT, I've gone through 2 K1200RSs and an MV Agusta F4, but through it all the LT has been constant.

I've looked at the Honda ST1300, and it suffers from an even worse dealer competency problem than the BMW does!!! There are not a lot of Honda dealers that know much about the ST1300, and since it's a "one off" technology and not a big seller, finding a competent mechanic is a big issue for the ST1300 owners (or so they say on their site).

I've considered the FJR1300. In fact, I was one of the people that lobbied Yamaha to bring it over. I spoke with Jim Gentz, US VP for Yamaha, several years ago begging him to bring the bike over. By the time Yamaha decided, I had already bought my first K1200RS. And when I totalled my first RS, I didn't even consider the FJR because of the "issues" it was having and that the 2002 RS included an electronic cruise control.

And as my LT gets long in the tooth and rolled over 76,000 miles this past weekend, I look at the new K1200GT as that possible replacement. I want to wait for the next LT, but this new K1200GT just excites me. The idea of a sportier bike with all the creature comforts (electric windshield, radio, cruise, heated everything...) has me thinking of getting a plane ticket for one of the IMS shows where the GT will be shown. Told my dealer to get me a blue one with all the bells-n-whistles (except for the GPS).

meese
Nov 28th, 2005, 12:17 am
What are you doing in two weeks, Jeff? Come on out this way and drool over the GT with the rest of us SoCal folks. Of course, you really ought ride out . . .

I'm with you though. I want to test ride the GT, but I think I'll wait until the next-gen LT appears before making a decision. I still do a reasonable amount of two-up, so I still would like decent passenger comfort, plus the ability to play when I want to.

Besides, by then I should have the '02 paid off, and have around 100K miles on it as well. :) I don't expect much trade-in value, but that's not why I bought the LT in the first place. As for competent dealers, I suppose I can learn the new technology the same as I did the old, so that's not really a concern for me.

grifscoots
Nov 28th, 2005, 7:42 am
As for competent dealers, I suppose I can learn the new technology the same as I did the old, so that's not really a concern for me.

If anybody can teach a cell phone and credit card new technology, it will be Jeff!:cool:

hawg
Nov 28th, 2005, 8:21 am
an up-beat post for "it's the people that keep us together" kinda statement is it???

How's about a nice religious thread to really keep us together!!!

DaveDragon
Nov 28th, 2005, 8:34 am
85,000 on the DragonFly now and she's running strong.

I doubt I'd purchase another BMW at this point, however if the new designed LT is actually a New Design I may consider it.

Top runners at this point are the FJR and the ST with a Wing way down the list.
Top detractors for the LT: Total costs of ownership and insufficient dealer network.

TandemCyclist
Nov 28th, 2005, 8:42 am
I for one time did not think you were judging. I think as a model gets older most of the people who have been writing about them think everything has been said. When the new model comes out I'll bet this forum takes off. Chances are most of the people that moved to something else, traded cars twice in the same period. A few probably traded in a wife or girlfriend and found the need for a different bike. Hey, if my wife left me, I would probably buy something that would be easier to kill myself on. (is she still reading over my shoulder) Last April I was getting out of MCing. Now I have an LT, Burgman, and just picked up an SV for the track. Keeps life interesting.

Well let's see if I can get the old wheelchair van going. Got to take mother to the doctor. Another one of lifes unexpected turns.

Lynn_Keen
Nov 28th, 2005, 9:18 am
I've owned GW's for almost 20 years, including about 7 years with a side hack (that was before the wife got her new hips). I'm obviously a touring bike kind of guy, oh yea, the Wife likes the comfort as well. I rode Wings all those years 'cause I felt they were the only train leaving the station. Well then, in '99 along came the LT. I test rode one and bought it on the spot. It was a huge step up from the 1500 Wing. I put 94,000 mi on that '99 and about a month ago found a deal on an '05 that I just couldn't pass up. It to is an awesome machine. I dare say I'll be riding it for another 90 plus thousand miles. By then age will probably force me to start looking for something smaller and lighter. And yes TOM, if you read this, you probably were in diapers when I was enjoying the "Good 'Ol Days" !! If it weren't for that ugly beard you'd probably get carded in all the bars.

bmwhd
Nov 28th, 2005, 10:29 am
As a somewhat frequent poster that no longer owns an LT, I'll comment too.

I'm going to get another LD mount at some point. If cost was no object, the new KGT would be in the running as would the R12RT. As cost is an object at this time, the FJR is my leading candidate right now. We'll see...

JetDoc
Nov 28th, 2005, 10:38 am
With the mountains around Carson City slowly turning white, and the overnight lows dropping into the teens, it may be time to put all the bikes away for a month or two, but I doubt that I'll be getting rid of my LT any time soon. It's still one of the best long distance bikes I've ever owned, but it will probably get fewer annual miles on it since I've added a V-Strom DL1000 to the stable.

With nearly the same power as the LT, and about half the weight, the Suzuki V-twin is much more user-friendly for around-town riding, plus I can go explore some of those back-country dirt roads that stretch across so much of the high desert near my new home. :D

Russ
Nov 28th, 2005, 2:20 pm
"Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Who will be next? Who is going to announce that their LT is no longer in their stable? "

My '03 suits me just fine....for now. The "plan" is to keep it as long as possible. But factors such as old(er) age, overall decline in health/fitness, loss of my in-town dealer, retiree finances, etc....all will come into play. What I'm pretty much sure of is that I won't be buying another 800 "plus" pound/high COG/high seat height/high(er) maintenance cost touring motorcycle. As great as my LT is with all it's features, I know a compromise will have to be made in the future.

My Street Glide, even at around 745 lbs, is just so damn "easy" to ride/maneuver at any speed, 1 or 2 up.

regards

airborneod
Nov 28th, 2005, 3:23 pm
If I was to buy another bike it would be a Honda GW or HD Ultra. I love to have comfort, accessories and lots of storage. I am afraid the older I get the faster I was. I have the Rune as well and that's about as close to a sports bike that I will ever own again.
The LT is still my # 1 ride but if someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse....Who knows.

pkpr1998
Nov 28th, 2005, 3:36 pm
As the dragon said, cost of ownership and the lack of dealers will weigh heavy on my next purchase.
It has taken any extra money (and then some) to maintain the beast. Since I ride every day and put 15-18K/annum on her, you can imagine the maintenance costs that I incur! I am NO mechanic and all of the tech sessions that John Rehder has held I have not been able to attend any of them (not his fault) I have had NO trouble with BMW of Atlanta, but they are a 200 mile round trip for me (and a wasted Saturday). I will say that the tires (Metzs) don't have to be replaced as often as my cruiser (which had to be replaced twice as often). I have not had any trouble with the bike so no complaints on my 03!

The long trips that I have taken on the bike have been great! Great mileage, smooooooooth riding, peaceful, and comfortable. It runs fast too! But I am always thinking about "what happens" when the bike goes bunk and I am a thousand miles away from a dealer? You pass a thousand Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki dealerships on the way, but no BMW Motorcycle shops. With that being said, the membership map is a good idea and I feel that if something were to happen while on the road I could call on anybody on the map and I could get the help that I needed (of course I would have to print the map). I am not a member of BMWMOA so this map is a great idea.
With the thread about the FJR1300AE and my wife still wanting to revert to the Kawasaki Nomad, I am not sure if I would go back to the BMW for the reasons that Dave said.
But, after a test ride on the FJR or other cruiser/touring bike (in the future), I may have to stick with the BMW LT (or likeness) because I have been SPOILED with such a nice bike!
If I were to get out of the BMW, I would have to stick with this forum due to ALL OF THE NICE people that I have met at CCR (the board) and the SE guys like Don, Al (aka Skippy), John R., Dave, John D, Fletcher, Bruce, Joey, Jeff and all of the others that I can' remember their names! I almost forgot Joe; even though he is a yankee!

So, NUFF SAID

hawg
Nov 28th, 2005, 3:48 pm
an up-beat post for "it's the people that keep us together" kinda statement is it???

How's about a nice religious thread to really keep us together!!!


Yep...can see it all now on the gl1800 forum..."LT owners defecting due to costs and lack of dealership support"...

So, uh, what has changed in the last 2 years???? Nothing.

Sure is a heck of a way to get new folks on this board, huh? One look at this thread and g'bye doods!

rixchard
Nov 28th, 2005, 3:58 pm
I guess this question more than anything else helps me understand that I am not a motorcyclist. I don't ride and LT because it is a motorcycle I ride it because it is an LT

hawg
Nov 28th, 2005, 4:22 pm
I guess this question more than anything else helps me understand that I am not a motorcyclist. I don't ride and LT because it is a motorcycle I ride it because it is an LT


Good point....my point is that it seems like a lot more negativism on this site lately...so WTF?

I STILL cannot find a motorcycle that fits me and my riding needs as well as the LT. Yeah, I still like Gold Wings and I still love Ultra's but neither fits me as well as the LT. So, it seems like we have a bunch of mid/late-life menopausal changes creeping to the surface? Just wanting a change? What is it?

I STILL prefer the LT...

amarider
Nov 28th, 2005, 4:35 pm
Good point....my point is that it seems like a lot more negativism on this site lately...so WTF?

I STILL cannot find a motorcycle that fits me and my riding needs as well as the LT. Yeah, I still like Gold Wings and I still love Ultra's but neither fits me as well as the LT. So, it seems like we have a bunch of mid/late-life menopausal changes creeping to the surface? Just wanting a change? What is it?

I STILL prefer the LT...


Hawg - That's just PMS Parked Motorcycle Syndrome - It's that time of year.
You know time to argue over Oil, tires and basically bitch a lot. ;)

I sold my LT just over a year ago with plans to by another in the future when it is updated and hopefully lighter. I don't get to ride two up much anymore - my son is older and my wife has developed bad knees. So the RT is the perfect ticket for now - But that just me.
I don't get PMS - I'll ride in any weather but it's usually good out here.

messenger13
Nov 28th, 2005, 6:54 pm
Yep...can see it all now on the gl1800 forum..."LT owners defecting due to costs and lack of dealership support"...

So, uh, what has changed in the last 2 years???? Nothing.

Sure is a heck of a way to get new folks on this board, huh? One look at this thread and g'bye doods!First of all, are you having a conversation with yourself, or what? You do realize that you replied to yourself...right?

Second...Dave you perpetuate more negativity than just about anyone on the site. Your comments would be like me yelling at people for being obnoxious. Just wouldn't make much sense...now would it?

And Lastly...I hardly doubt that this thread will detract ONE, SINGLE person from buying an LT. And if this is all it takes, then SO BE IT! They must not be very serious about the decision. And...I probably did all of us a huge favor.

Lighten up big guy. Might be time you slammed down one of those holiday elixers.

hawg
Nov 28th, 2005, 7:07 pm
First of all, are you having a conversation with yourself, or what? You do realize that you replied to yourself...right?

Second...Dave you perpetuate more negativity than just about anyone on the site. Your comments would be like me yelling at people for being obnoxious. Just wouldn't make much sense...now would it?

And Lastly...I hardly doubt that this thread will detract ONE, SINGLE person from buying an LT. And if this is all it takes, then SO BE IT! They must not be very serious about the decision. And...I probably did all of us a huge favor.

Lighten up big guy. Might be time you slammed down one of those holiday elixers.

Whoa, can't take the heat?

Why don't ya just wander over to the GL site and mosey through some of their threads. Don't remember seeing one single thread with as much negative responses about the Gold Wing as I have seen on this board about the LT in the last couple of weeks.

Must be Parked Motorcycle Syndrome for sure.

Tell ya what...come on down and I will buy you a Guinness or three!!! Weather is fine down here and it would be good to see ya!!! How 'bout it?

hawg
Nov 28th, 2005, 7:11 pm
First of all, are you having a conversation with yourself, or what? You do realize that you replied to yourself...right?

Second...Dave you perpetuate more negativity than just about anyone on the site. Your comments would be like me yelling at people for being obnoxious. Just wouldn't make much sense...now would it?

And Lastly...I hardly doubt that this thread will detract ONE, SINGLE person from buying an LT. And if this is all it takes, then SO BE IT! They must not be very serious about the decision. And...I probably did all of us a huge favor.

Lighten up big guy. Might be time you slammed down one of those holiday elixers.

Oh, yeah...I DO reply to myself. Sometimes I even question myself. Don't you?

Heh, heh...

messenger13
Nov 28th, 2005, 7:43 pm
Why don't ya just wander over to the GL site and mosey through some of their threads. Don't remember seeing one single thread with as much negative responses about the Gold Wing as I have seen on this board about the LT in the last couple of weeks.I think the fact that you're surfing the GL forums speaks volumes about the whole premise of this thread. 'Sup with that Dave? You shopping?! :D

Oh...and as for PMS, it was 65 degrees here today. I know some of y'all southern posers might think that's a bit too nippy to ride, but not I. :D

eljeffe
Nov 28th, 2005, 7:45 pm
Wow! A post that allows me to give Joe a "thumbs up". http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Tallyho
Nov 28th, 2005, 8:47 pm
Who will be the next to give up "what we think to be the best touring bike in the world?" I think it was Raffy last Saturday. See his post in NorCal. I agree that the bike as not changed but a number of the riders have yet they are still in alignment with the site's Mission Statement in most respects.

"The BMW Luxury Touring community exists to promote a friendly, on-line community specifically related to luxury touring on BMW motorcycles. The information on this site is primarily related to the BMW's Flagship Motorcycle - the BMW K1200LT; however, all riders who like to travel two-up, enjoy the better things in life, and share many common interests among the larger BMW Luxury Touring community are welcome to join in on the fun."

Seems about two years(seasons?) is all some guys can go before they need to change to something different. Especially if they have only one bike. Guess you could say that about a lot of things. Maybe it's a one-up thing. While everyone's waiting for the next generation LT, the competition isn't waiting and neither is BMW for that matter. They're banking on a calculated measure of brooding dissatisfaction especially over the dark and dank months of winter. Watch out Pillions, if the LT goes, you might be next. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-040.gif

hoog62
Nov 28th, 2005, 10:02 pm
I haven't really beeen paying attention, but Joe's in the GREEN!!!

messenger13
Nov 28th, 2005, 10:05 pm
SSssshhhhhh . . . . :D

Tallyho
Nov 29th, 2005, 1:44 am
Here's a pretty decent view of my saddle.

http://www.bmwlt.com/gallery/files/5/4/4/4/SKRreset.jpg

tmgs
Nov 29th, 2005, 11:47 am
It's a known fact that most people do not like change. We are creatures of habit, for the most part I guess. I actually like change and welcome it typically...most of the time. But there certainly are some things that I hold on to for dear life. But...I digress.


Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Who will be next? Who is going to announce that their LT is no longer in their stable? :eek:

So . . .
What's your NEXT bike? And when? . . .

My next bike won't be a LT this I know for sure, at the moment I have no plans on selling the LT for something different, in fact I plan on keeping it until it is just flat done and wore out, I do plan on "adding a bike to the list though hopefully next year, I think my next bike will be along the lines of the R-GS, Buell Ulysses or something simlilar depending on who comes out with the next adventure touring bike and what I like/dislike about it.

put cruise on the GS or buell and it will be the winner for me

Tom

eastmtadv
Dec 6th, 2005, 5:30 pm
Currently in the barn:
02 LT
03 electraglide
05 FJR
02 Goldwing
Vulcan 500 (wifes)
Vstar 650 (daughter's)

Sold this year:
Motoguzzi Lemans (oh my back)
ST 1100
Roadstar

Who has a problem? Not me.

petepeterson
Dec 6th, 2005, 10:07 pm
Having drove alot of the bikes on the market over the last 40 years and owning quite a few of them I never gave a BMW a thought! Then I quit riding for some reason in the early 90's. In 04 I told the wife I needed to ride again and was going for another dresser or something along those lines.....

Well the net showed me the BMW and that there was a new dealer only 50 miles way, sounded great, I rode my Harleys to the same town for years to get them serviced....

The new BVMW shop is owned by the same people who own 2 more here in NC..... Anyway a year and a half ago I test rode a LT bought it the same day and have no intention of getting rid of it till I'm to weak to hold it up, then it will be GS time or time for a walker...

The LT is as good as it gets, I see no reason to change.....Regards Pete

meese
Feb 8th, 2008, 8:20 pm
I was looking over the Member List and realized that 2 out of the top 5 most-frequent posters no longer own an LT. Looking further, 3 out of the top 10! Yikes!Just ran across this old post from November '05 and thought that an update might be interesting.

. . . Check the membership list, sort by # of posts, review the user names . . .

Wow. Of the top 5 posters none of them are currently riding LTs. (OK, I still have my LT, but I've put 100 miles on it versus 35K on the GT in the last year.) BTW that's 3 GTs in the top 5, and 2 that don't have a bike at the moment.

For the next 5 posters 3 are still riding LTs, one got rid of his LT for a GT, and one rides a GS-A but still has an LT sitting idle.

So really, 7 out of 10 no longer ride an LT. Yikes is right.

kdog
Feb 8th, 2008, 9:04 pm
So really, 7 out of 10 no longer ride an LT. Yikes is right.
Well, I'm still riding mine. Ya'll are a bunch of fickle ladies. :histerica

dshealey
Feb 8th, 2008, 10:19 pm
Just ran across this old post from November '05 and thought that an update might be interesting.

. . . Check the membership list, sort by # of posts, review the user names . . .

Wow. Of the top 5 posters none of them are currently riding LTs. (OK, I still have my LT, but I've put 100 miles on it versus 35K on the GT in the last year.) BTW that's 3 GTs in the top 5, and 2 that don't have a bike at the moment.

For the next 5 posters 3 are still riding LTs, one got rid of his LT for a GT, and one rides a GS-A but still has an LT sitting idle.

So really, 7 out of 10 no longer ride an LT. Yikes is right.Yes. but at least ONE of those top ten would love to have another LT.

meese
Feb 8th, 2008, 10:37 pm
Yes. but at least ONE of those top ten would love to have another LT.I know, David. :) I keep telling you I have a spare LT just sitting here . . .

Lonewuff
Feb 8th, 2008, 10:57 pm
Thoughtful question Joe. I really do like my LT now, but only because there are people other than the dealer, who care enough to help those of us without skills to use tools and don't understand mechanics (first time I saw my LT with the tupperware off it looked like a machine or something in there :bmw: ). I love riding the LT but only after meeting Grif, who got my machine set up and riding right and a couple of others here who have turned a few tools on her at Tech Sessions. I at least have confidence in the bike I am riding and know that everything is running as it should.

I do miss the security of jumping on the Ultra and heading cross country knowing that if something happened on the road, I was always within 50 miles of an HD dealership or another rider would be along soon who would probably know what was wrong and how to fix it. Now after going to the Inter. Mot. Show this year I fell in love with the Ultra all over again and have tossed around the idea of going backwards, but apparently not too serious about it I guess. I rode GW's until the 1800 came out with all it's problems, which is why I went with the HD. I rode the GW for the same reason I felt comfortable on the road with the HD. There was always a dealership in every little town, so if something happened...

If I had to decide today what I was going to ride tomorrow and had any choice available, I would probably back my LT our of the garage head out and be happy. In fact our 80 degrees tomorrow and the promise of no rain (first time in a long time) pretty much insures that's what I'll do.

You just keep thinking up ideas Joe, that's what your good at. ;) Seriously, like I said, very thought provoking question.

messenger13
Feb 9th, 2008, 11:03 am
You just keep thinking up ideas Joe, that's what your good at. ;) Seriously, like I said, very thought provoking question.Thanks Jerry. I'll take the compliment. :)

Funny to see this thread get resurrected. I have thought about it from time to time ... especially each time a long-time member reports buying a new bike other than an LT.

ATDRS
Apr 28th, 2008, 7:10 pm
It is kinda of funny that this emerges at this time.
Over the last 2 years I have I have been having trouble with picking and staying with a bike.
I have had ST1300, GL1800s LTs and R12RTs.. So many that I am embarrassed to tell.
I currently have an 08 GL1800 but just saturday I was at the BMW dealer test riding a LT again.
The GWing is a great machine but the LT is a great m/c.
Money is not so much of a problem for me as my wifes sanity is.
I'll check back in a couple of weeks. God help me!

messenger13
Apr 28th, 2008, 7:19 pm
The thread that simply refuses to die. I love it!
I guess the winds just keep blowin'. :)

jers99lt
Apr 28th, 2008, 7:51 pm
What first hit me, reading the original post from late 2005, was grasping the relationship between top posters and still having an LT. I often am amazed to see a question from someone that joined this forum in 2002 that has posted less than 100 times.
I don't feel that this forum is an absolute indicator of miles/knowledge and number of posts to it. Yeah, there are some VERY well versed owners that I've learned a ton from. Given the total volume of LTs sold in the US and regular posting members, we're a small community and maybe not even representative of the total. It's entirely possible that there are LT savants that aren't members.
Anyone know the percentage of LT's that have changed hands? What can that be compared to, versus other makes/models?
I'm not really looking for hard and fast answers, but just offering up a look at the realm we're dealing with.
Just my $0.02 since I don't see the sky falling down on me.

Jer

rldavidson2
Apr 29th, 2008, 7:55 am
I'm certainly more of a lurker than an active participant in this forum. I have gained phenomenal insight into my bike because of the fine folks here.

I learned that the HID upgrade is not too hard to do yourself, and it's worth every penny. Man, that was one of the best things I've ever done to that bike!

I also learned that grip puppies rule! Spot on, yet again.

But I lost the clutch at < 23,000 miles, and now it appears that the dreaded dead radio is hitting me. I don't have a lot of faith in the dealer that services the bike, so I tend to stay fairly nervous riding the bike now (what was that sound, was that there before, etc).

I am now looking at selling the K1200LT and moving on to something different. I fell in love with the K1200LT because it was leading edge and not everybody had one. Personally, I think there's now some competition on that front, so I'm gonna' look at switching over to a different brand.

This forum kept me on the K1200LT longer than I would normally have planned. This forum also made the miles that I did put on the bike more comfortable. It would've been nice if BMW Motorrad figured out what an asset this group is.

Hopefully, I'll see you guys on the road. Thank you very much for the support, advice and entertainment.

Robert

pkpr1998
Apr 29th, 2008, 8:27 pm
The thread that simply refuses to die. I love it!
I guess the winds just keep blowin'. :)

Yeah, just like Friday night at STC :histerica

davemoore
May 5th, 2008, 12:41 am
...Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Who will be next? Who is going to announce that their LT is no longer in their stable? :eek:
So . . .
What's your NEXT bike? And when? . . .

Triumph Tiger 1050. Last week.

See http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=291054#post291054

MattKas
May 5th, 2008, 12:04 pm
I got my second LT about a month ago. I think 2 LTs will give me more reliability. :-)

It's a known fact that most people do not like change. We are creatures of habit, for the most part I guess. I actually like change and welcome it typically...most of the time. But there certainly are some things that I hold on to for dear life. But...I digress.

I was looking over the Member List and realized that 2 out of the top 5 most-frequent posters no longer own an LT. Looking further, 3 out of the top 10! Yikes! As my eyes combed down even further, I saw many guys that currently do ride an LT...but the miles are starting to pile up, and I know for a fact that they are entertaining thoughts of...dare I say it . . . "OTHER" motorcycles!!! Perhaps a different BMW model, and some are even looking closely at other alternatives.

Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Who will be next? Who is going to announce that their LT is no longer in their stable? :eek:

Unfortunately for some...messy13 will be keeping his LT for awhile yet. The wifey likes it too much. Otherwise, I might even be tempted to keep my Ninja and trade the LT in on the new K1200GT this coming spring.

So . . .
What's your NEXT bike? And when? . . .