Should I wave at "scooteristas?"

[RonKMiller]

I am starting to feel surrounded by underpowered, inexperienced, obnoxious, loud air polluting "scooteristas". I'm talking about the Chinese 50cc variety that are barely visible in traffic, wear half helmets (if any at all) and consider cut offs, t-shirts and flip flops safety gear.

I am being smug but not waving at them?

I mean, they ARE fellow BIKERS, right? :D Have I finally reached a level of snobbish geek intolerance? :think:

Here's a bio of your typical scooter geek:

Age: 23
Hometown and Current Location: Helena, Montana
Education: Graduated from Harvard University with a degree in Social Anthropology
Occupation: Receptionist
Interests: "I can recite around five digits of pi and I like strategy board games and Sci-Fi/Fantasy literature. My goals include land conservation and improving public understanding of political and corporate practices. I often get lost in maps and can stare at them for hours. I have spent five years developing my own personal popcorn recipe with four oils, spices and honey

Ciao!

[Zotter]

I don't.

I don't want to risk them loosing control by feeling obligated to wave back.

They don't need an 'M' endorsement - so I they go in the category of 'powered skate boards' for me.

[RonKMiller]

I don't.

I don't want to risk them loosing control by feeling obligated to wave back.

They don't need an 'M' endorsement - so I they go in the category of 'powered skate boards' for me.

OK, you're smug! :D

[K1200LTryder]

I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.

Never again.

[DavidTaylor]

JMHO - They are riding a motorcycle, regardless of its scooter classification. Scooters are a jumping off point for a lot of riders moving on to "real" bikes, so why not let them share in the camaraderie? I give them a wave. For example, yesterday on a backroad near my house I met a gaggle of about a dozen older Honda Passport step-throughs buzzing down the road. It was funny looking to see them in a pack, but hey, they were out for a ride! I waved at every one of them, and at least half waved back.

[meese]

I dunno, Ron. Maybe you ought to work a bit harder and come up with a few more prejudicial stereotypes. Come on, you know you can do better than that.

[Tallyho]

I agree with Dave. You're waving at the future. Some of us have sons and daughters in college riding those things the short distances between dorm/home and school at 120mpg. Next thing you know they are venturing out on the weekend. These same sort of riders starting looking for a good used BMW but then can't ride very far because of the stock seat. Suddenly, what was once goofy is another whole generation right in your market, Ron!

[Zotter]

OK, you're smug! :D

OK - so maybe it was a glib response. :D I did a couple times. Never got a wave back. Figured if I get one, I'll return it. But, for this season it's a moot point. They've all gone underground for winter 'round here. :cool:

But, I am an IT geek that also likes maps and honey popcorn. Maybe I'm seeing something I'd rather not admit??

[grifscoots]

I wave at everybody.... except myself.

You know, you're laid into a corner, nailing the throttle out and catch a glimpse of the rear of the bike.

[RonKMiller]

I agree with Dave. You're waving at the future. Some of us have sons and daughters in college riding those things the short distances between dorm/home and school at 120mpg. Next thing you know they are venturing out on the weekend. These same sort of riders starting looking for a good used BMW but then can't ride very far because of the stock seat. Suddenly, what was once goofy is another whole generation right in your market, Ron!

You know - you're right!

It wasn't long ago that a goofy looking 12 year old kid with black glasses and a wild look in his eye was stripping down his 3.5hp Briggs and Stratton mini-bike - just to paint it metal flake gold! :o

Hi, my name is Ron - and I was (and still am) a GEEK! :eek:

[hallzee]

What a coincidence. Was out for a ride yesterday, and saw at least 5 Piaggio (or similar) scooters on the road. A pack of 2, and a pack of 3. One of the groups were "seasoned citizens".

They were in the twisties too - so I gave 'em a wave (with my smug expression hidden by the helmet)!

[RonKMiller]

I dunno, Ron. Maybe you ought to work a bit harder and come up with a few more prejudicial stereotypes. Come on, you know you can do better than that.

Hmmm, about this for starters? :p

Three construction workers are building a skyscraper, spending many days on high steel, in dangerous locations.

One is Irish, one is Mexican and the third is Ken, a blonde surfer dude from California.

At lunch time, sitting on a high steel beam, the Irish guy opens his lunch and says, "Oh no, not corned beef again! Corned beef, always corned beef. If I get one more corned beef sandwich, I swear I am going to jump and end it all."

The Mexican opens his lunch and says, "Not another burrito. All I ever get is Burritos. All the time burritos. I am with you, if I get one more burrito I am going to jump too."

Ken, the blonde California surfer dude opens his lunch and says, "Tuna again! It is always tuna, tuna, tuna. I am with you guys -- if I get one more tuna sandwich I am jumping too."

The next day the Irishman opens his lunch and says, "CORNED BEEF! That is the final straw." ...and he jumps to his death.

The Mexican opens his lunch and says, " Aye a BURRITO again. That is it, I can't take it any more."...and he jumps to his death.

Ken, the California surfer dude opens his lunch and says, "Oh no, TUNA again --I'm with you guys." ...and he jumps to his death.

They have a joint funeral and at the funeral the Irish wife is moaning, "Why didn't I give him roast beef. I could have given him ham and cheese...." The Mexican wife is wailing, "I could have given him tacos. Why didn't I make him fajitas...."

The California wife says, "HEY DON'T LOOK AT ME. HE MADE HIS OWN LUNCH."

[zippy_gg]

I am starting to feel surrounded by underpowered, inexperienced, obnoxious, loud air polluting "scooteristas". I'm talking about the Chinese 50cc variety that are barely visible in traffic, wear half helmets (if any at all) and consider cut offs, t-shirts and flip flops safety gear.

I am being smug but not waving at them?

I mean, they ARE fellow BIKERS, right? :D Have I finally reached a level of snobbish geek intolerance? :think:
Ron, just be sure to use ALL fingers when you wave!:rolleyes: :D

I wave at scooters and mopeds because that is how I started at age 14... No money for a "real" bike and too young to get a license yet, but the virus had alreeady bitten me hard.

[bowlesj]

2 wheels and a motor and I'm waving.

Most don't wave back though.:)

[STARFIGHTER]

I wave at all riders.
Including bicycles........ever see those folks pedal up a 6% grade..?
They are tough !!

[zaphod]

I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.

Never again.I'm glad I wasn't drinking when I read that.

I usually wave at everyone. I might think twice about scooters now.

The funny thing is my boss just bought a 600cc Suzuki scooter, his Goldwing was too unwieldy and he really like an automatic.

[hschisler]

I wave at all riders.
Including bicycles........ever see those folks pedal up a 6% grade..?
They are tough !!Scooters, bicycles, unicycles, and -- just last week -- 2 people on a tandem bike (3 wheels): they all get waved at. I also wave at little kids who stop to watch the LT go by. I like to think I'm planting the seed of a thought of a future motorcycle rider. :)

[tobiwan]

even the pedal type. Never know what they may have in the barn at home.

[dlbushey]

I wave at everyone. I don't mind the scooters so much. At least here in MI they need a cycle endorsement on the license to ride one if it's over 50 cc's. And there are a few scooters out there that are supposed to be able to keep up with regular bikes on road trips. At least that's what the article in American Motorcyclist said.

[pkpr1998]

When I have waived, I never get a response back!

So, the heck with 'em! LOL

Get a real motorcycle!

[Lonewuff]

I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.

Never again.


Sex was that bad huh? :histerica

Sorry Tryder...that just couldn't go unsaid. :D

[sparky_k1200lt]

I waved at one of those scooters today...he waved back with the McDonalds shake he was holding in left hand. ( I think he needed a cupholder )

[Tat_n_Telle]

Telle and I went out riding on the LT this past weekend with my buddy on his Harley Road Glide. We saw a group of riders coming the other way - Goldwings, Harleys, a few metric cruisers, and about half a dozen scooters!

Our daughter enjoyed riding with me on the LT so much, she decided to get her motorcycle endorsement. She obtained her permit and found a Suzuki Burgman 400 scooter at a dealer in RI. Because her permit was only valid in MA, I rode down with her in the car to pick it up so I could ride it home. I have to tell you, it was a blast! After the LT, it felt like a motorized skateboard - light, nimble, plenty of power for around town and secondary highway riding. I have since had the opportunity to ride the Burgman 600. That 'scooter' can handle highway speeds with no problem!

I'm not real crazy about the smaller scooters (150cc or less) but I'll still wave to them.

[RonKMiller]

When I have waived, I never get a response back!

So, the heck with 'em! LOL

Get a real motorcycle!

OK! You're smug too! :thumb: :histerica

Man, I admire honesty. :D :thumb:

[RonKMiller]

I waved at one of those scooters today...he waved back with the McDonalds shake he was holding in left hand. ( I think he needed a cupholder )

POIFECT! - now that's what I'm talkin' bout! :rotf::histerica

[JCabranes]

I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.

Never again.

Never again for the gay sex or the wave??? :eek:

[kmurphy165]

OK - sBut, I am an IT geek that also likes maps and honey popcorn. Maybe I'm seeing something I'd rather not admit??Uh oh, no elevator riding with you, Buddy! :eek:

Karl

[K1200LTryder]

Never again for the gay sex or the wave???
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Well as far as the wave goes, never again.

As far as gay sex, I've never tried it, and nothing I can possibly think of would make me want to. ( my wife takes care of my needs, as I do hers) :dance:

[pkpr1998]

:histerica OK! You're smug too! :thumb: :histerica

Man, I admire honesty. :D :thumb:

That's right, never tell a lie!

[ronk1200lt]

I have a little Piaggio scooter I ride around town. Much more convenient than my GSA. I never have a problem with the wave thing, because when I ride the scooter I am much to embarrassed to wave at anyone.

[SilverBuffalo]

ok then I'll admit it,
I was in my truck,
in town, 7 lane road 3 lanes each direction and a turn lane, speed limit is 45
I'm in the center lane and come upon a scooter doing 30 mph,
cause he's talking on the cell phone!!!!!
Yeah I waved at him, and I only used one finger.

[Patric]

I wave at everybody . Farmer in the fields , guy on a bicycle you name it .


The hardiest folks I've met wile out on a motorcycle are the bicyclists. I met some bicycle folks one time out in Idaho , and they were going cost to cost on there bicycles . One guy was 65 year old , and said it was kind of like going to work every day , Just do your 8 hours or so ... They had a van that carried there camping gear . The driver would make dinner for them , then they cleaned up . The next day the driver would go 10 miles or so down the road and stop , and have a drinks & snacks for them . This would go on all day . They did around 100 miles a day that way ....

I have ridden a motorcycle to Alaska 3 times now , and ever time that I have gotten up that way , I run into bicyclists . This last year I run into bicycles going up the Dempster Hwy going to Inuvik NWT . There a tough bunch , ever time I think I really did something on a motorcycle .I meet some dude that is out doing it on a bicycle . ...patric ...

[DakotaDude]

Originally Posted by K1200LTryder

I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.
Never again.[Quote}

[QUOTE=Lonewuff]
Sex was that bad huh? :histerica

Sorry Tryder...that just couldn't go unsaid. :D


Man, did you get nailed on that one.......good shot Lonewuff!!

[Brian-NC]

Hey Ron, You might as well wave at them because in my neck of the woods these scooters are everywhere. The thing is, there aren't any more Mopeds left. Everything on the road is actually a motorcycle these days. The laws have changed in the last several years. If the "scooter" will travel 30 mph or greater on a flat level surface, then it's a motorcycle. It requires the same registration, insurance, state inspection, DOT approved helmet and last but not least, an "M" on the operators license.

The last time I was at "The Dragon" (Hwy 129 NC), I was passed by a old dude on a Suzuki Burgman 400cc. Those of you reading this may say, well, it only has 47 or 49cc so I don't have to have anything, that would be incorrect and most likely get you a fist full of citations. Hey, I think scooters are cool. They've even got their own magazine on the shelves- "Scoot!" They also have rallies and other events, just like we do. I wave at em. My wife has been asking about them lately..

Brian
Charlotte, NC

[gpolakow]

A vespa and a Lambretta. Liked the Lambretta better. But that was back in the 60's. No one waved then. Still, I count them as motorcycles. But I have to be honest, I don't wave to them either. I think they could hurt themselves trying to wave back.

[petevandyke]

I saw one the other day and I didn't wave!!!



Of course, my hands were busy picking the schrapnel from my detonated rear drive, the pieces of my transmission linkage, the sack of money I was bringing to the bank to make my monthly BMW Finance payment, and my 475-page NHTSA comparison report of rear-drive oil viscosity, so I really couldn't wave, even though I normally extend that courtesy to anyone on two wheels...


:histerica :rotf:

[RonKMiller]

A vespa and a Lambretta. Liked the Lambretta better. But that was back in the 60's. No one waved then. Still, I count them as motorcycles. But I have to be honest, I don't wave to them either. I think they could hurt themselves trying to wave back.

SMUG! :thumb::D

[RonKMiller]

I saw one the other day and I didn't wave!!!



Of course, my hands were busy picking the schrapnel from my detonated rear drive, the pieces of my transmission linkage, the sack of money I was bringing to the bank to make my monthly BMW Finance payment, and my 475-page NHTSA comparison report of rear-drive oil viscosity, so I really couldn't wave, even though I normally extend that courtesy to anyone on two wheels...


:histerica :rotf:

NOT Smug! (since you admitted that you normally wave at them) ;)

You're way too damn nice Pete. :D

[petevandyke]

NOT Smug! (since you admitted that you normally wave at them) ;)

You're way too damn nice Pete. :D


Ron, you are the very FIRST person to EVER say that about me!

[jayjacobson]

I am starting to feel surrounded by underpowered, inexperienced, obnoxious, loud air polluting "scooteristas". I'm talking about the Chinese 50cc variety that are barely visible in traffic, wear half helmets (if any at all) and consider cut offs, t-shirts and flip flops safety gear.

I am being smug but not waving at them?

I mean, they ARE fellow BIKERS, right? :D Have I finally reached a level of snobbish geek intolerance? :think:

Here's a bio of your typical scooter geek:

Age: 23
Hometown and Current Location: Helena, Montana
Education: Graduated from Harvard University with a degree in Social Anthropology
Occupation: Receptionist
Interests: "I can recite around five digits of pi and I like strategy board games and Sci-Fi/Fantasy literature. My goals include land conservation and improving public understanding of political and corporate practices. I often get lost in maps and can stare at them for hours. I have spent five years developing my own personal popcorn recipe with four oils, spices and honey.
You're right on target, Ron. Oh, one more thing you could add to the bio: "what's important is how I FEEL about things. What actually is, is not relavent. It's all about my feelings."
I don't.
I did once, and a few days later while picking up a few things at the local grocery store, the guy I waved at walked up to me while I was putting things away on my LT and propositioned me for gay sex.

Never again.
I just think he sensed how incredibly homophobic you are, Ryder.
I dunno, Ron. Maybe you ought to work a bit harder and come up with a few more prejudicial stereotypes. Come on, you know you can do better than that.
Hmmm, about this for starters? :p

Three construction workers are building a skyscraper, spending many days on high steel, in dangerous locations.

One is Irish, one is Mexican and the third is Ken, a blonde surfer dude from California.

At lunch time, sitting on a high steel beam, the Irish guy opens his lunch and says, "Oh no, not corned beef again! Corned beef, always corned beef. If I get one more corned beef sandwich, I swear I am going to jump and end it all."

The Mexican opens his lunch and says, "Not another burrito. All I ever get is Burritos. All the time burritos. I am with you, if I get one more burrito I am going to jump too."

Ken, the blonde California surfer dude opens his lunch and says, "Tuna again! It is always tuna, tuna, tuna. I am with you guys -- if I get one more tuna sandwich I am jumping too."

The next day the Irishman opens his lunch and says, "CORNED BEEF! That is the final straw." ...and he jumps to his death.

The Mexican opens his lunch and says, " Aye a BURRITO again. That is it, I can't take it any more."...and he jumps to his death.

Ken, the California surfer dude opens his lunch and says, "Oh no, TUNA again --I'm with you guys." ...and he jumps to his death.

They have a joint funeral and at the funeral the Irish wife is moaning, "Why didn't I give him roast beef. I could have given him ham and cheese...." The Mexican wife is wailing, "I could have given him tacos. Why didn't I make him fajitas...."

The California wife says, "HEY DON'T LOOK AT ME. HE MADE HIS OWN LUNCH."
Nice, Ron. I knew you could do better! See, it would be unfair that the other guys died and "Ken" didn't. So, "Ken" did the right thing. Imagine how he would FEEL if he were the only one left?!
Ron, just be sure to use ALL fingers when you wave!:rolleyes: :D....
WTH, you can wave at me with one finger.
ok then I'll admit it,
I was in my truck, in town, 7 lane road 3 lanes each direction and a turn lane, speed limit is 45. I'm in the center lane and come upon a scooter doing 30 mph, cause he's talking on the cell phone!!!!!
Yeah I waved at him, and I only used one finger.
My kind of honesty, Hans!
Ron, you are the very FIRST person to EVER say that about me!
Hey Pete, that's what I like about Ron. He's the best damn lier EVER! He's got all my seat business for life.

[petevandyke]

Hey Pete, that's what I like about Ron. He's the best damn lier EVER! He's got all my seat business for life.[/QUOTE]


haven't we had ENOUGH gay posts on this thread?


:rotf: :histerica

[jayjacobson]

haven't we had ENOUGH gay posts on this thread? :rotf: :histerica
I'm working through my homophobia....there is nothing the matter with "gay" posts. :D

[Retread]

The hardiest folks I've met wile out on a motorcycle are the bicyclists. I met some bicycle folks one time out in Idaho , and they were going cost to cost on there bicycles . One guy was 65 year old , and said it was kind of like going to work every day , Just do your 8 hours or so ...

A good friend of mine just celebrated her 55 birthday by riding Hwy 1 from Central Cal up into Canada. Wanted to go all the way to Alaska, but didn't have the time.

Another friend here here in Reno says Motorcyclists wave at him all the time when he's out on his bicycle. Kind of surprised him at first, but now he thinks it's great. BTW, he's seriously temped to get a motorcycle as well since I got the the LT.

The way I see it is everyone on two wheels out on the road is a minority, wave at 'em all.