RTP Question

[ka5ysy]

Does anyone happen to know if the crash bars from the RTP will fit on the standard RT?

Alternate question is whether the RTP can mount the standard two-person seating setup and topcase mount?

I think I screwed up yesterday :confused:


The Boss (Dr. Judy) wanted to go for a ride on an RT to compare with our R1200R. Problem is that the RT had the suspension set on the comfort setting. She liked it, and the bike is "cute". The "cute" factor always ends up costing money, but if it is "cute" it is ok by her. :bmw:

[tbarstow]

Depends on which year. For the 1150's - No. You have to make it fit which includes drilling your engine block and cutting holes in your tupperware.

The 1200 RTP I looked at seems to have slightly different tupperware up front and in the rear that allow for installation of the crash bars.

For a definite answer, I'd call A&S in Roseville, CA, they do a lot of RTPs for CHP.

[ka5ysy]

Thanks Tim. I will give them a call.

[Ted Shred]

Does anyone happen to know if the crash bars from the RTP will fit on the standard RT?

Alternate question is whether the RTP can mount the standard two-person seating setup and topcase mount?

I think I screwed up yesterday :confused:


The Boss (Dr. Judy) wanted to go for a ride on an RT to compare with our R1200R. Problem is that the RT had the suspension set on the comfort setting. She liked it, and the bike is "cute". The "cute" factor always ends up costing money, but if it is "cute" it is ok by her. :bmw:

Are you asking because you want a two up RT with engine bars in front?? If so just buy the Wunderlich bars. They look and work great.

Trying to add a back seat to an 12RTP would be about imposable. You also can't get cruise, ASC, ESA, TPM and many other feature on the RTP...

[petevandyke]

I had a 2002 CHP R1150-RT-P that I had re-painted and swapped the solo seat for a two-piece OEM saddle, added the bmw topcase and swapped for full size saddlebags. Only way you could tell it wasn't a stock RT was when I handily exceeded the top-speed governor maximum that doesn't exist on the police models.

[Ted Shred]

Only way you could tell it wasn't a stock RT was when I handily exceeded the top-speed governor maximum that doesn't exist on the police models.

BMW Motorcycles do not have any mechanical or electronic governors for speed. Only rev limiters to protect the motor...

[ka5ysy]

... Only way you could tell it wasn't a stock RT was when I handily exceeded the top-speed governor maximum that doesn't exist on the police models.


And the maximum warp speed is?...... :confused:


BTW: Thanks for the responses guys!

[petevandyke]

BMW Motorcycles do not have any mechanical or electronic governors for speed. Only rev limiters to protect the motor...



ok, I guess I stand corrected...

I would have sworn that last fall when I couldn't get my LT to go beyond 127.6 mph (indicated, GPS) it had a good 2,000 RPM left on the tach and wouldn't move even at wide-open-throttle for a couple minutes (tucked in, windshield down as well, 5th gear).

Why would the RT-P bikes have a higher top speed in tests than the RT models then if that's the case?

And why would there be re-programming units for sale to eliminate the top speed limits that I incorrectly(?) labelled governors for bmw motorcycles including the LT, or is that just a gimmick?

thanks for the help, I love this site.

[sundaeman]

Does anyone happen to know if the crash bars from the RTP will fit on the standard RT?

Alternate question is whether the RTP can mount the standard two-person seating setup and topcase mount?




R1200 RTP front crash bars will fit on a standard RT. I don't remember all the details offhand, but I did compare my RTP to an RT and the all the holes appear to be in right places.


Trying to add a back seat to an 12RTP would be about imposable. You also can't get cruise, ASC, ESA, TPM and many other feature on the RTP...


Converting a R12RTP to a two up is possible, requires a pile of parts (the radio box can also be kept in this configuration) and is probably pricey. I believe ASC and TPM are available now on the RTP.

[Ted Shred]

ok, I guess I stand corrected...

I would have sworn that last fall when I couldn't get my LT to go beyond 127.6 mph (indicated, GPS) it had a good 2,000 RPM left on the tach and wouldn't move even at wide-open-throttle for a couple minutes (tucked in, windshield down as well, 5th gear).

Why would the RT-P bikes have a higher top speed in tests than the RT models then if that's the case?

And why would there be re-programming units for sale to eliminate the top speed limits that I incorrectly(?) labelled governors for bmw motorcycles including the LT, or is that just a gimmick?

thanks for the help, I love this site.


The LT won't go any faster than that because that's about the speed where the bike reaches peak torque and it can't push the beast through the air any faster than that.

I have NEVER seen an after market product for a late model BMW that claims to eliminate top speed governors. If you know of one post it.

There are a couple products from Wunderlich that claim to reprogram and add horsepower.

[Ted Shred]

Converting a R12RTP to a two up is possible, requires a pile of parts (the radio box can also be kept in this configuration) and is probably pricey. I believe ASC and TPM are available now on the RTP.

If you convert the bike back to two up the radio box goes away. The box sits right where the back seat will go.

This conversion was possible on the 1150RTP's with about 1000 bucks in parts. It will be even more for the 1200...

[sundaeman]

The box sits right where the back seat will go.

i'm aware.

[Ted Shred]

i'm aware.

If you have a 1200RTP with a back seat and a radio box I'd like to see some pix...

[sundaeman]

Mine is a standard 1 up, however the dealer mentioned that R1200RTP can be configured 2up with the radio box further back. Based on the construction of the radio box, it appears doable.

[Brian-NC]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here in these threads is- if you are purchasing an RT-P and altering it for 2 up, make sure the seller or dealer has removed/replaced the "run flat" tires. These special, POLICE tires are designed to be ridden by only one rider, (officer) and not intended to be used for 2 up touring.

I have ridden an RT-P for several years and officers have a purchase option at the end of the lease. They are a good buy but the other advice to fit Wunderlich bars on a civilian RT would be a much better choice, besides, they look a lot better. The police RTs don't have some of the amenities that the civilian versions do.

Good luck,

Brian
Charlotte, NC

[Rathjen]

It would help a lot if you mentioned 1100, 1150, or 1200. There are many differences in conversions.

1100RT or 1150RT +RTP bars:
RTP bars are expensive to add to an RT and require modification to the fairing in the rear. The rear RTP bars only provide protection if you have the city lids. You can use them with normal lids, but your lids won't open all the way. I doubt you can use them at all with the really wide touring lids, but I'm not sure. On the 1200RT you cannot add RTP bars on a 2-seater because I believe the rear set mounts to where the rear footpegs mount.

RT+other bars:
Wunderlich bars are less expensive. There is no rear set. They require some modification to the front fairing on the 1150RT. I don't know about the 1200.

RTP->2-seater:
If you want the RTP bars instead of the Wunderlich, this is probably the least expensive route just because RTPs are often discounted quite a bit. The 1100RTP was very difficult to convert. For the 1150RTP there is a BMW official parts list for conversion. I have no idea why, but conversion kits vary from $650 to $1000 from dealer to dealer. Many of the bolts and whatnot can be reused, so perhaps some dealers know this and some don't. The 1150RTP is quite different than the 1150RT: speedo accurate to +/-1mph, shorter lockable side stand, oil cooler fan, run flat tires, two batteries (you lose a glove box), on/parking/off headlight switch, 840 watt alternator instead of 700, two extra handlebar switches, comfort seat, taller windshield, crash bars, and free scratches in the paint where they scraped off the police stickers. There is also an optional shotgun mount if you are so inclined. :)