Death Valley Days 2008

[Ted Shred]

So who's going ?? I know Hal wants to take his new KLR. What days are you thinking of going down and coming back? I'll likely trailer the GS and I need to start planning now for the time off work...

[LodiHal]

Last year, didn't we leave Thursday and come back on Sunday? That would work for me again. I can't wait, I had a great time last year, even with the horizontal gravel/rock road at speed sudden parking incident. :D

I want to trailer down also.

[Ted Shred]

Last year, didn't we leave Thursday and come back on Sunday? That would work for me again. I can't wait, I had a great time last year, even with the horizontal gravel/rock road at speed sudden parking incident. :D

I want to trailer down also.

I'll get those days off then. We can use my truck and trailer if you want. I can take 4 guys and at lease 4 bikes...

[Ted Shred]

For those interested the DVD is Jan 25-27th 2008.

Sounds like Hal and I are leaving on Thursday the 24th...

Hal, did you make a hotel reservation yet?

[Sharkey]

Denise and I are planning on going.

[Chuck Presnail]

the 28th is a monday I reserved a cabin thursday through Sat leaving Sunday

Spendy but I had a great time

Chuck

[mikerd400]

I'm in this year. I want to ride the GS down. It would be nice to have the KLR trailered down, so I can some off road practice with it.

[LodiHal]

For those interested the DVD is Jan 25-27th 2008.

Sounds like Hal and I are leaving on Thursday the 24th...

Hal, did you make a hotel reservation yet?

No, nobody at dinner tonight has except Chuck... I'll try calling hopefully Friday. I want a cabin also, that was kinda cool. My cabin last year was the evening meeting spot to watch the days camcorder recordings, that was fun.

[amarider]

:yeah: Someone say Death Valley Daze :thumb:

Still a long way off but looking forward to it. The Cabins are great, don't forget to ask for the discount/group rate with name of the event or "The Village idiots" or "Internet BMW RIders". The group rate may not be in effect yet, they usually post it up in late October.

[Ted Shred]

I'm in this year. I want to ride the GS down. It would be nice to have the KLR trailered down, so I can some off road practice with it.

I just booked a cabin. I'm ready to go :-)

[LodiHal]

I've got my cabin too! :D

[Jim]

:yeah: Someone say Death Valley Daze :thumb:

Still a long way off but looking forward to it. The Cabins are great, don't forget to ask for the discount/group rate with name of the event or "The Village idiots" or "Internet BMW RIders". The group rate may not be in effect yet, they usually post it up in late October.

The group rate is in effect. Got my cabin back in Feb. :thumb:

[dougholck]

Got a Cabin.
Have trailer for my bike + 1.

[mike2243]

Lots of time in between now and then... Not sure what my plans are for the upcoming months.... may be on a journey to the east coast via bike... if not count me in.... will be camping ... had a blast last year with the masses..... and well all the HDDC guys and gals....

[Dan-A]

I am in too. I will trailer my KLR down, or will happily take a slot on Ted's trailer and truck if it is available, or can tow any larger trailer and hold up to 6 in the Excursion.

However it works out, count me in.

[brasters]

Whats with all the trailering?

[Dan-A]

Whats with all the trailering?

I am not up to riding my KLR 650 there and back so it's a trailering we will go.

[dino2000]

+1 w/ DRZ in tow.

[LodiHal]

Whats with all the trailering?

Because we are secure in our manhood! :D:D

Plus, after the crash it's much easier to get home...

[amarider]

Because we are secure in our manhood! :D:D

Plus, after the crash it's much easier to get home...


I heard that if you ride a KLR that far you won't have any manhood left... :eek:

[Ted Shred]

Whats with all the trailering?

It's a long shitty ride. Also, we've learned from experience that if you're gonna ride hard off-road it's best to have a truck and trailer around to get you home...

[Dan-A]

I heard that if you ride a KLR that far you won't have any manhood left... :eek:

John,

He's got the new one, and those you can ride farther without as much sacrifice. Death Valley is probably only a one nutter. :rotf:

[kapod2t]

I bought a KLR just to go to DV Daze next year. My Road Glide didn't like the trip up the hill to the charcoal kilns last January. (But it made it.)

See you off the road.

[Dan-A]

Because we are secure in our manhood! :D:D

Plus, after the crash it's much easier to get home...

There will be no crash.

[LodiHal]

There will be no crash.

Yea, that's what I thought last year too, until Raffy and I got to riding on gravel "in a sporting manner..."

[xharleyrider]

I would like to make this trip. I live in Galt, I am open to trailering or riding. I would of course share expenses with anyone who wants to share. Where are you getting the cabins at? I have been practicing my off road riding, and already am bringing the bike in for new tires and fork seals on friday. Geez, this could get a little pricey, but fun.

[LodiHal]

I would like to make this trip. Where are you getting the cabins at?

http://www.furnacecreekresort.com/

[xharleyrider]

I am in. Turns out my wife is interested in seeing Death Valley, so I am booking a room for us. I will throw the bike in the back of my truck as see you all there. She can use the truck while we are out exploring. Any other wives going?

[Ted Shred]

I am in. Turns out my wife is interested in seeing Death Valley, so I am booking a room for us. I will throw the bike in the back of my truck as see you all there. She can use the truck while we are out exploring. Any other wives going?

I don't think so...

[amarider]

I am in. Turns out my wife is interested in seeing Death Valley, so I am booking a room for us. I will throw the bike in the back of my truck as see you all there. She can use the truck while we are out exploring. Any other wives going?

Make sure you book at the Ranch not the resort unless you want the $250+ a night rooms. Also mention the Internet BMW riders/village idiots for the group discount. You must call the Ranch directly for the discount - 760-786-2345

[Tallyho]

I am in. Turns out my wife is interested in seeing Death Valley, so I am booking a room for us. I will throw the bike in the back of my truck as see you all there. She can use the truck while we are out exploring. Any other wives going?I am pretty sure Bruce and Denise Marks are still planning to attend. He mentioned it on page one, fifth post. However, Denise and your wife might well be the only two women in attendance.

[Jim]

This is off the DVD Yahoo list from Brian Curry...

I contacted the person that holds rooms for us. There are still 24
rooms left in "our block". It is turning out that that weekend is the
weekend to be "at Death Valley"

There are at least three other groups there: senior tours, JPL, Photo groups.

Seniors. They move slowly. DO NOT expect them to get out of the way
quickly. They DO NOT make good fender ornaments. The Photo groups
may stop unexpectedly. Or you may not be alone in the back country.
JPL. Well they are a bunch of nerds and considering the computer
users here, might work out well.

None of them are camping. So, we will be just disturbing the "normal"
folks that thought they would be the only ones in the Furnace Creek
camping area. Try to get out of there quietly please. The good news.
The rangers like us! :):):)

HTH

[kapod2t]

I am in. Turns out my wife is interested in seeing Death Valley, so I am booking a room for us. I will throw the bike in the back of my truck as see you all there. She can use the truck while we are out exploring. Any other wives going?

My wife calls this a "Sausage Fest" and prefers to wait until spring when we ride down there with the Harley group.

[ltcommuter]

Ok, I had to resurrect this thread from page 3 since no one started an ofishal DVD "whoze goin" thread with a sticky.

Just to let you know my friend Ken and I will be there this year. Last year we did the White Stag lounge rally in Beatty and visited yall in the valley for dinner. This year we're staying with ya. Lookin forward to some off-roading on my LT.

Cheers!

[Ted Shred]

Time to start the list??

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13???

[DavidTaylor]

Ok, I had to resurrect this thread from page 3 since no one started an ofishal DVD "whoze goin" thread with a sticky.

Just to let you know my friend Ken and I will be there this year. Last year we did the White Stag lounge rally in Beatty and visited yall in the valley for dinner. This year we're staying with ya. Lookin forward to some off-roading on my LT.

Cheers!

Ya know, Bob, I can loan you a GS for a nominal fee. :D Starting the new job I wouldn't be able to go anyway, but that doesn't mean my bikes can't! ;)

[Nathan]

Time to start the list??

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.

[Chuck Presnail]

Time to start the list??

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.

[amarider]

DVD - The List

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John

[xharleyrider]

DVD - The List

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin

[dino2000]

Who's riding w/ me?
1. ME
2. Mike
3. Johnny LaLa
4. Ted


5 bikes on the trailer(one for Raffy if he still needs one)

Confirm

[Ted Shred]

Who's riding w/ me?
1. ME
2. Mike
3. Johnny LaLa
4. Ted


5 bikes on the trailer(one for Raffy if he still needs one)

Confirm

That looks to be correct. Guess the truck is full...

[tlash]

DVD - The List

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom

[RMoore007]

DVD - The List

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom
21. Roger

I'm going to Titus Canyon too, only with four wheels. I'm renting a 4x4 Jeep in San Fran for three days. Picking up Friday morning and returning Sunday night. Staying at the Stagecoach Hotel and Casino in Beatty.:D Not that I'm trying to distance myself from you all but Furnace Creek is kind of full and camping is just not right.:p

[Ted Shred]

I'm going to Titus Canyon too, only with four wheels. I'm renting a 4x4 Jeep in San Fran for three days. Picking up Friday morning and returning Sunday night. Staying at the Stagecoach Hotel and Casino in Beatty.:D Not that I'm trying to distance myself from you all but Furnace Creek is kind of full and camping is just not right.:p

I'm sure somebody has an extra bed at the Ranch. We can't have you staying in Beatty:eek:

[RMoore007]

I'm sure somebody has an extra bed at the Ranch. We can't have you staying in Beatty:eek:
I don't mind. It's cheap and I don't mind sleeping/snoring alone.:p

[Tallyho]

I don't mind. It's cheap and I don't mind sleeping/snoring alone.:pThere are rooms available at Stovepipe Wells in the park.

[Ted Shred]

I don't mind. It's cheap and I don't mind sleeping/snoring alone.:p

I have a couple friends from San Luis Obisbo that are going to be staying at Stovepipe too...

[RMoore007]

Just got home. Will check. TY.:)

[strsout]

I checked today. No more rooms available.
Some are talking about 'cabins'... were are this cabins? I only could get rates for the 'hotel roons' and there are no more "internet BMW Riders" rooms available and the rate is 'only' $135... is that right?

[Ted Shred]

I checked today. No more rooms available.
Some are talking about 'cabins'... were are this cabins? I only could get rates for the 'hotel roons' and there are no more "internet BMW Riders" rooms available and the rate is 'only' $135... is that right?


The cabins are at the same place, Furnace Creek. $135 is a little higher than the group rate but not much...

[amarider]

The Cabins are part of the hotel complex, same phone number to reserve but I believe they are sold out also.

[Jim]

I have been doing this for seven or eight years now and this is the first time I can remember even the campsites being sold out.

[Ted Shred]

The Cabins are part of the hotel complex, same phone number to reserve but I believe they are sold out also.

I think there's an echo in here;)


I checked today. No more rooms available.
Some are talking about 'cabins'... were are this cabins? I only could get rates for the 'hotel roons' and there are no more "internet BMW Riders" rooms available and the rate is 'only' $135... is that right?

Last I heard there were still rooms at Stovepipe Wells. It's pretty close to Furnace Creek...

[MattKas]

I am thinking of going too. I will be riding my bike to the business trip to SanDiego week before any way.

I have never been to the Death Valley Days before. What are the main attractions?

Matt Kas
04 LT
Chandler, Arizona

So who's going ?? I know Hal wants to take his new KLR. What days are you thinking of going down and coming back? I'll likely trailer the GS and I need to start planning now for the time off work...

[Ted Shred]

I am thinking of going too. I will be riding my bike to the business trip to SanDiego week before any way.

I have never been to the Death Valley Days before. What are the main attractions?

Matt Kas
04 LT
Chandler, Arizona

It's a very informal "Rally". The main attraction is riding in the National Park. There is a brief get together at the visitor's center on Saturday afternoon where they take some pics and hand out swag.

[dougholck]

Fresh Report:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279717

I am thinking of going too. I will be riding my bike to the business trip to SanDiego week before any way.

I have never been to the Death Valley Days before. What are the main attractions?

Matt Kas
04 LT
Chandler, Arizona

[Chuck Presnail]

[QUOTE=dougholck]Fresh Report:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279717



Nice ride report Kind of rough for NOOBS though

Chuck

[MattKas]

I made a reservation at Stovepipe Wells for Friday night. I will stay in Las Vegas Saturday night. I will most probably stick to paved roads with my LT :-)

[Ted Shred]

I made a reservation at Stovepipe Wells for Friday night. I will stay in Las Vegas Saturday night. I will most probably stick to paved roads with my LT :-)

Right on:) There will be plenty of people there on street bikes so you'll have plenty of people to ride with:bmw:

[tlash]

I will most probably stick to paved roads with my LT :-)
Me too, Matt. I'm leaving the GS at home this year, and riding down on my GT.

Whether we’re dual sporting or all asphalt this year, I'd like to suggest that we all still get together for our usual Saturday morning breakfast in Beatty. Instead of eating at Rita’s in the Stagecoach casino like the last couple years, how about trying the Ensenada Grill this year? They start serving B-fast at 0700. Not that I plan to be there at 0700!

[lrmk1200]

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom
21. Roger
22. Larry M (I have a room at Stovepipe Wells.)

[strsout]

1 Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom
21. Roger
22. Larry M (I have a room at Stovepipe Wells.)
23. Elton and Eliane

[MattKas]

1.Ted
2 Deano
3 Hal
4 Mike E
5 Dan
6 Doug
7 Raffy
8 John L
9 Bob
10 Ken
12 Sharkey and Denise
13 Nathan
14 keith H.
15 Steve C.
16.Chuck I have a Cabin but we will have to see IF I can ride by then.
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom
21. Roger
22. Larry M (I have a room at Stovepipe Wells.)
23. Elton and Eliane
24. Matt Kas (Stovepipe Wells)
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[strsout]

Unfortunately I have to cancel my trip. I have a room at the hotel for $135/night, two nights (Friday and Saturday). Before I cancel it, I wonder if any one here would like to take it. I'm not sure how it works to do the exchange at the hotel, but we can figure out if there is any interests. As far as I know, there are no more rooms available on the hotel. Just on the resort now ($300+)

[Tallyho]

Unfortunately I have to cancel my trip. I have a room at the hotel for $135/night, two nights (Friday and Saturday). Before I cancel it, I wonder if any one here would like to take it. I'm not sure how it works to do the exchange at the hotel, but we can figure out if there is any interests. As far as I know, there are no more rooms available on the hotel. Just on the resort now ($300+)PM sent on this.

[Ted Shred]

Unfortunately I have to cancel my trip. I have a room at the hotel for $135/night, two nights (Friday and Saturday). Before I cancel it, I wonder if any one here would like to take it. I'm not sure how it works to do the exchange at the hotel, but we can figure out if there is any interests. As far as I know, there are no more rooms available on the hotel. Just on the resort now ($300+)

Is this room still available?

[strsout]

Is this room still available?


No. I'm sorry. The room went to luck rider already. !

[dougholck]

DVD List
Bump/Update

1. Ted
2. Deano
3. Hal
4. Mike E
5. Dan
6. Doug - cabin
7. Raffy
8. John L
9. Bob
10. Ken
12. Sharkey and Denise
13. Nathan
14. Keith H.
15. Steve C.
16. Chuck -cabin
17. Jim
18. John
19. Bob Griffin
20. Tom
21. Roger
22. Larry M (I have a room at Stovepipe Wells.)
23. Matt Kas (Stovepipe Wells)
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[tlash]

Reposted from the DVD Yahoo Group, dated today (1/20):

Those who are traveling from the California side and who like to run over
Hwy166 to Lake Isabella be aware of heavy ice and probably new snow. We're
expecting snow over Greenhorn Monday through Wednesday with levels down to
1000.

I went over three weeks ago and there was plenty of ice towards the top and
tons of sand. We've had a substantial storm since then and overnight lows in
the low 20's up there. With the impending storm, although not a lot of
moisture predicted, dumping more snow it'll be a bit more "exciting" that
has been the last few years.

I'll try to update this on Wednesday night/Thursday morning.

Greg

[Jim]

I was right behind my buddy on a RT up there two years ago on the way to DVD when he spun out on some ice. Looked just like the rest of the road. No harm, no foul but it was a real wakeup call.

Be careful out there.

[ltcommuter]

A week ago none of this week's wet weather was forecast! Now it looks like the only way into DV might be Tehachapi Pass for us coast dwellers. That may not even be an option according to Accuweather.com which shows freezing rain Thursday night! Hmmm, also freezing rain forecast for the Grapevine on Thursday night! :eek:

What's everbody thinking is going to be a decent route? :confused:

Cheers!

[Ted Shred]

What's everbody thinking is going to be a decent route? :confused:

F250 4x4:histerica

[amarider]

A week ago none of this week's wet weather was forecast! Now it looks like the only way into DV might be Tehachapi Pass for us coast dwellers. That may not even be an option according to Accuweather.com which shows freezing rain Thursday night! Hmmm, also freezing rain forecast for the Grapevine on Thursday night! :eek:

What's everbody thinking is going to be a decent route? :confused:

Cheers!

I beleive Tehachapi will be OK during daylight hours, just take it easy and ride safe. Besides Bob you know how to ride a long way in 3 gear right??? ;):p

[DavidTaylor]

A week ago none of this week's wet weather was forecast! Now it looks like the only way into DV might be Tehachapi Pass for us coast dwellers. That may not even be an option according to Accuweather.com which shows freezing rain Thursday night! Hmmm, also freezing rain forecast for the Grapevine on Thursday night! :eek:

What's everbody thinking is going to be a decent route? :confused:

Cheers!

Didn't you master the long ice crossing a few years ago? Or did I get that backwards and it mastered you? :histerica

Kidding aside, if you time it for a mid-day crossing during the warmest part of the day you'll probably be OK. But do monitor conditions and be extra careful.

And the "be careful" goes to all you guys heading down the DVD. Have a fun trip and come back in one piece!

[tlash]

I'm out. You all play nice. Call quick for a motel room at the Ranch.

[Ted Shred]

I'm out. You all play nice. Call quick for a motel room at the Ranch.

I think my buddy Kevin got your room today at the Ranch. We'll miss you though Tom, what's up?

[Sharkey]

Denise & I are bailing both sick. You guys have a good time and take lots of pictures.

[lrmk1200]

OK, I tried to convince myself that the water continuing to fall form the sky was no big deal. Well, it's happened, I have abandoned my plans for the Death Valley Daze this year. In addition to the lousy weather, I keep envisioning my baby, Maggie, the Big Red RT slippin' and slidin' along roads of which I am totally unfamilar. Bottom line, I have chickened out for this year. Hope everyone who braves the trip has a great time and safe ride.

[Jim]

F250 4x4:histerica

How about swinging by So Cal and picking me an' the GS up?

Please

[nelson61]

Larry ...I dont call that being "chicken" I call that being "smart". One thing being in a nice warm truck trailering a bike and another trying to ride there and then having to deal with it on the way back.....NOT worth it.

[amarider]

Come on Nelson where's your since of Adventure? :p

While I agree it's not chickening out to decide not to ride, there are some of us that are not bright enough to come in out of the rain....... :crazy: I'm riding, but will be prepared and safe as possible. :D

[nelson61]

Hey John

You are another breed ;)
Its one thing being in rain. Snow or ice not sure about that.. I dont see "read" a group ride like before ...seems like everyone is on there own. Couple of years back when I rode with the group it was fine. But I do remember coming back and riding with Tom "Tlash" over I think it was 88 or 108 or god knows what I had a tight grip on the handles...thanks Tom for leading the way .

[Ted Shred]

How about swinging by So Cal and picking me an' the GS up?

Please

We're full up:)

You'll be fine. It doesn't rain in So Cal does it:lol8:

[tlash]

I think it was 88 .
It was 88. Good lord we had no business up there. I'd like to call it our superior riding skills, but I think just dumb luck had a lot more to do with us not sliding out on the slush and ice.

[amarider]

Gonna be a wet one today, Jim and myself will be heading out about 1100 for Tehachapi. Should be able to get in before dark and before the rain turns to snow on the pass.
See Everyone at the Ranch.

[Chuck Presnail]

[QUOTE=amarider]Gonna be a wet one today, Jim and myself will be heading out about 1100 for Tehachapi. Should be able to get in before dark and before the rain turns to snow on the pass.
See Everyone at the Ranch.

Have a good ride .

Chuck

[Tallyho]

OK, I tried to convince myself that the water continuing to fall form the sky was no big deal. Well, it's happened, I have abandoned my plans for the Death Valley Daze this year. In addition to the lousy weather, I keep envisioning my baby, Maggie, the Big Red RT slippin' and slidin' along roads of which I am totally unfamilar. Bottom line, I have chickened out for this year. Hope everyone who braves the trip has a great time and safe ride.Larry, sounds to me like you made an intelligent choice after weighing and measuring all the factors and not just the external ones but also your own ability, experience, and confidence. "Between the Ears" is where safe riding begins and peer pressure is where it ends. Remember that line from Jurassic Park "You were so busy trying to figure out if you could make dinosaurs that you never stopped to think whether you should." No chicken involved in your decision. :think:

By the way, as I write this it currently 33 degrees and dropping in Tehachapi. High wind advisory in steady rain expected to turn to snow by 2pm. The snow is expected to continue through Monday with accumulations up to ten inches. Hope everyone riding or driving takes it easy getting to and from DVD from NorCal. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/natur/nature-smiley-12.gif

[ldrider]

DVDaze items:

I wrote most of this a couple of weeks ago, trying to prepare. There have been some changes since, so please review and accept it as intended.
I know most of you are experienced, but I’m posting this just as a reminder and general info.

Getting there and back:

Remember it’s winter in most parts of the country. I think SoCal is exempt from winter. If you are going through someplace cold, say fer’ instance Donner Pass, it’s important to keep warm. Layering helps. I find that if I layer my electric jacket over my electric vest I stay pretty warm.
John Pierce has a nice route from the Bay area, on roads that don’t have much traffic. If yours’ is similar, arrange to have someone know your route and check in with them when you arrive at DV. (John, with the weather like it is are you making route changes?)

Plan a route that keeps you out of the snow if possible. Try and ride with someone. Carry tools, flares, cell phone, and be prepared. KLR guys, travel in packs.

Important Notice:
Due to equipment failure, no gasoline is available at Scotty's Castle. The nearest gas is available at Stovepipe Wells (45 miles), Furnace Creek (53 miles), Beatty, Nevada (60 miles) and Tonopah, Nevada (80 miles).
We are at Furnace Creek campground, gas up when you can. It’s a good idea to gas whenever you can, if not for your own sake, for the idiot that runs out (holding up hand). (BTW, these are mileages from Scottys')

Weather notes:
Check the Death Valley Morning Report (www.nps.gov/deva/Morning.pdf )
And remember it got down to 26f last year. Bring good gear. The small hand and foot warmers can help, and carrying a few reheater packs can help a cold night. I see that many of our normal paths will possibly have snow. It is possible to run far south and back north, adding a few hours and much safety.

If you are going home early Sunday, remember that Saturday night. Being hung-over doesn’t make riding more pleasant, and can cloud your judgment.

Odds-n-Ends
While this is a “no host” get-together, we like to have everyone at the Visitor Center at about 3:30-4pm on Saturday for a group picture, SWAG give-away. Look for me and John Pierce. John will be the “official” photographer and announcer. The voice of DVDaze so to speak. Other planned items are the 7pm “where the hell is (insert name here) and the “we need to go get (insert name)’s bike, followed by the semi-finals of the ADVRIDER Arrrrrgggggg off.

Take advantage of what the park rangers have to offer in the way of tours and special events. Check the ranger programs before you go.
The Swag:

Every year we’ve had a swag give away. Most years just about everyone gets something. If you can hit up your local dealer for some swag please get a business card for each item. If you win some swag, please let the giver know what you got and that you appreciate them supporting DVDaze. We will have some postcards with stamps ready to send out.

The Rangers:

Sharon (a park ranger) has been there since forever and knows us. And tells the other rangers so they don't start stressing when all these motorcyclists show up. Yes, that has happened in the past. After a day or two of patrols they figured it out. No trouble here.
While the rangers are friendly to us, remember they are there to keep the peace and enforce the laws. Don’t get pissed off if you get a ticket for something you did, and try to not give them a reason to visit your campsite in an unfriendly mode.
Some folks noticed park rangers WALKING around at NIGHT "sniffing in the air." I would expect the same this year. Consider this, and act appropriately.

Put away the alcohol at night. We don’t want to be tempting the visiting teenagers.

With the ability to reserve Walk-in sites, it is possible that civilian's might become mixed in amongst us. If that is the case, and they get upset, can I remotely suggest that, if possible, work with them and the rangers to rearrange us and them to minimize the impact on the civilian's. They did not know that this is "our" weekend. I seriously doubt that will be the case this year, but it is possible.

And if the rangers have taken it upon themselves to rearrange civilian's and us DO NOT BITCH. Work with them. They know that we tend to take over "the slot" and work out from there.

If you are coming by 4 wheels, BRING WOOD. The rangers like folks that do that.

When you leave, tidy up. Use the dumpsters. Bring some empty plastic grocery bags to carry stuff to the dumpsters.

DO NOT cut any trees, or burn any brush. Even if it is just "laying there." BTDT, Robert Laposta can tell you it is NOT A GOOD THING.
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If you want a DVD button, let Fulton know:

Hi, all,

As in years past, I'll be making personalized buttons for DVD. If you're going, please send me your name (as you want it on the button), then remember what name you gave me so when you look me up to pick it up, I'll know which bag it's in. (If your name is John Smith, butt you told me "Goofy Rider," it's not going to be in the "S" bag.)

If you invite your friends to DVD, and they're not on any of the lists, send me their names also, so they'll have a button.

I'll be camping, and eating at the 49'er Cafe, with some sojourns into the adjoining bar.

--
Fulton Martin
fulton@exwis.com
__=o&o>__
San Diego, CA
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History
Since I was recently asked, DVD was started by IBMWR and the Original Village Idiots. The OVI were started because of the Cheeseburger Chronicles on the IBMWR list. I set up a Macjordomo list on a Mac SE30 and started the Village Idiot list. DVD was set up and the first few years were small enough that we could all eat supper and breakfast together. There are ride reports scattered about the web. For various reasons it has always been a “non-event”, and Brian Curry has been the “non-leader”.


That’s all I have for now

Joe Denton

[jims136]

Hi ALL

Jim and I made it to Mojave about 5pm, had a great steak dinner and a few beers.
Tehachapi at 415 was 32 degrees and snowing when we went through, decided not to stay. It appeared we would wake up to a winter wonder land and frozen roads.
The snow was not sticking and was only snowing on top of the pass but we just heard they closed the grape vine and Tehachapi travelers were being escorted by the CHP.

TRAVEL safe everyone.

John signed on Jims logon

[tlash]

Hi ALL

Jim and I made it to Mojave about 5pm, had a great steak dinner and a few beers.
Tehachapi at 415 was 32 degrees and snowing when we went through, decided not to stay. It appeared we would wake up to a winter wonder land and frozen roads.
The snow was not sticking and was only snowing on top of the pass but we just heard they closed the grape vine and Tehachapi travelers were being escorted by the CHP.

TRAVEL safe everyone.

John signed on Jims logon
Good timing guys. How are you going in tomorrow? If through Ridgecrest/Trona area, watch Towne Pass in the Panamints. Otherwise you could slab it to Baker and up 127.

[Dan-A]

5:40AM, bike's on the trailer, all the gear is on the truck, next stop Steve's. We hope to be out by 7AM, south on 99 and over 58 I presume.

See you guys in Furnace Creek.

Anti-rain dance: :dance:

[ltcommuter]

Ken and I are bailing. You all know how I hate ice. :p

You guys have a good time and, like Tom says, play nice!

Just cancelled our reservations at the Ranch so have at it.

Cheers!

[Ted Shred]

we're all here safe and sound. ready to ride tomorrow :-)We'll take lots of pics...

[Ted Shred]

Great day of riding. Only blew up one motor :(

Not a BMW this time...

[ducatigirl]

Really glad everyone made it safely, the weather has been really bad here today. Hal, have you been to the 'establishment' yet? My bet is you will be pleasantly surprised. Oh and here is my Internet question of the week for class, "What is your predictions for additional Internet capabilities that you expect to use in the next five years?" I'm sure you have an opinion on that! Any suggestions/opinions duly appriciated :)

Have fun all and get home safe,

[Ted Shred]

Really glad everyone made it safely, the weather has been really bad here today. Hal, have you been to the 'establishment' yet? My bet is you will be pleasantly surprised. Oh and here is my Internet question of the week for class, "What is your predictions for additional Internet capabilities that you expect to use in the next five years?" I'm sure you have an opinion on that! Any suggestions/opinions duly appriciated :)

Have fun all and get home safe,

everybody had a good weekend without incident. We're all headed home early tomorrow.

[Bobnoxous]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[amarider]

Just made it back in, never a dry road but managed to miss most of the rain. Jim split off in Sac so hhe should have beaten me home. Great event, about 1400 miles for the round trip.
Hope eveyone makes it back in good shape, IF anyone gets in from Dan's group let us know due to your delay.

Picture tomorrow.

[dougholck]

Hal, Chuck and I home safe, rain/wind over the pass, mostly dry the rest of the way. Had to take 395 all the way south to 58 due to flooding.

Beautiful weekend in Death Valley, to bad so many people had to cancel due to bad conditions elsewhere.

Dan got towed to Ridgecrest, hoping for repairs to his truck in the morning.
The rest of his group rode home on their bikes????

[Ted Shred]

Hal, Chuck and I home safe, rain/wind over the pass, mostly dry the rest of the way. Had to take 395 all the way south to 58 due to flooding.

Beautiful weekend in Death Valley, to bad so many people had to cancel due to bad conditions elsewhere.

Dan got towed to Ridgecrest, hoping for repairs to his truck in the morning.
The rest of his group rode home on their bikes????

Dan is in a motel in Ridge Crest waiting for the Ford store to open in the morning. Keith, Steve and Nathan rode home. Hope we hear from them soon...

[RaffyK]

Well, if he needs to get back quickly, I will be there on the 7th and 8th and I can drive the truck back for him on the 9th.

[Ted Shred]

Well, if he needs to get back quickly, I will be there on the 7th and 8th and I can drive the truck back for him on the 9th.

That's cool Raffy. I'm expecting to hear from Dan in the am. If the truck is going to take a while, I may go down and pick him up...

[RaffyK]

ok. Let me know. that way I make plans accordingly (fly in drive back or drive in and drive back).

[Chuck Presnail]

some pics first of airing down on the way to the Racetrack Notice the white stuff . I had the NX650 which was new to me and I had no idea of fuel milage so the Pics in the snow were as far as I got -estimated total distance was 180+ round trip / when Doug Jim and John left to continue I looked in the tank and saw NO GAS! so Hal volenteered to shepard me back . we made it to the pavement and then to the highway I decided that Stovepipe wells was the better choice ( a ten mile savings) when I filled up 3.16 Gal for 124 miles

Good thing we turnd around I think I would have been 10-15 miles short!

OH the white stuff Cold it was.

The rest were other side trips.

Good weather over all some little rain some cold some sun .

Good times

Chuck

[LodiHal]

Really glad everyone made it safely, the weather has been really bad here today. Hal, have you been to the 'establishment' yet? My bet is you will be pleasantly surprised. Have fun all and get home safe,

Lisa, you were right about the "establishment", truly amazing! I even brought you a small present from there.... :D

PM sent about the Internet question.

Thanks! :D:D

[LodiHal]

A couple of quick pictures... :D

In spite of the weather, it was still a beautiful place:
http://www.halsinger.com/dvd/weather.jpg

The snow was fun..
http://www.halsinger.com/dvd/snow.jpg

Nathan taking a picture of me, while I was taking a picture of him...
http://www.halsinger.com/dvd/nathan.jpg

And finally, a picture of the "Crow Whisperer." 'Nuff said...
http://www.halsinger.com/dvd/dougcrow.jpg

.

[Keith_H]

Nathan, Steve and I made it back last night around 9:30. Weather was good until Galt then all hell broke loose. The wind blew the KLR across 4 lanes of 50 :eek:

Both Steve and I started losing power, I guess due to something getting wet. But we both made it home. :)

I'll be calling Dan later today to see how his truck is going.

[kapod2t]

What's Doug doing? Stalking lunch?

[dougholck]

What's Doug doing? Stalking lunch?


"Communicating" with nature.

[kapod2t]

After this 565 mile escapade on a KLR in January snow, rain and, worst of all, blinding fog on a mountain pass, it'll be an anti-DVD in Lone Pine in late February. No more 6 or 7 meal weekends at the 49'er Cafe.

[Ted Shred]

Just spoke with Dan. They put a new fuel pump in and where going to replace a couple injectors. He thinks he'll be on the road early this afternoon.

[Ted Shred]

"Communicating" with nature.

I think I found that same bird:)

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3689.sized.jpg

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3690.sized.jpg

[Ted Shred]

The Mighty Nathan -

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3634.sized.jpg

[Ted Shred]

Love these signs:rolleyes:

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3668.sized.jpg

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3666.sized.jpg

[amarider]

Good to hear from Nate last night when they made it home, and I hope Dan's SUV gets all fixed up today.

Well it was quite a wet and wild trip to DVD and back, but Death Valley was worth it. Here's start of some pics from the trip.

Snow and Ice on Wildrose, Jim and I made the sensible discission not to go skating with the GS's. The snow had melted and turned into a thin sheet of ice and continued around the next couple of bends.
Once in the Valley we rode out to a canyon and hiked in a little ways.
Jim, Doug and I at Tea Kettle Junction.
Sunny at the racetrack.

[amarider]

Some pictures of the Valley, Hal enjoying a beverage in the resort bar, Das Boot on his KLR and more.

[amarider]

A few more pics.............

[RMoore007]

Nice pictures everyone. I sure wish that I could have gone. Maybe another time. Hope you get home today Dan. Sorry for your unwanted opportunity but at least you got to stay in Ridgecrest.:)

[Chuck Presnail]

I decided that Stovepipe wells was the better choice ( a ten mile savings) when I filled up 3.16 Gal for 124 miles

Good thing we turnd around I think I would have been 10-15 miles short!



Turns out I was luckyer than I thought The 3.16 Gal I put in my tank was almost empty I looked at the "Book" when I got home last night and the tank is only 3.4 total!!!!

OH and I "Google Earth ed" that snowey spot that Hal and I turned around at no wonder it was cold -1537 meters 5,040 feet.





Good times

Chuck[/QUOTE]

[Keith_H]

Love these signs:rolleyes:

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3668.sized.jpg

http://www.sealec.com/ted/albums/album74/IMGP3666.sized.jpg

There was pavement in the picture... I'm pretty sure that's a violation! :histerica

[Ted Shred]

There was pavement in the picture... I'm pretty sure that's a violation! :histerica

I rode on the gravel shoulder, I swear!!:p

[Jim]

Ted, out of curiosity, where were you posting from when you were in DV?

[Ted Shred]

Ted, out of curiosity, where were you posting from when you were in DV?

There was WiFi in the registration building that worked in the cabins and in front of the Cafe.

[LodiHal]

Both Steve and I started losing power, I guess due to something getting wet. But we both made it home. :)


A common problem with the KLR is the gas tank venting. I believe that once all air is purged from the tank fuel vapor is all that remains. Engine heat usually keeps the fuel warm, but I think sustained high speed riding in a cold wet environment cools the tank enough to cause the liquid fuel to absorb the vapor above it and create a vacuum. If this occurs faster than the vent allows air in to equalize pressure then fuel starvation will occur, especially at lower fuel levels.

Several companies make kits to "T" the vents, including Fred at Arrowhead.
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/parts_frames.html

Or EagleMike recommends "The best fitting to use is a "Y" - but lots of tees out there work fine. Size 1/4".

Location just below the carb, so the single leg of the "Y" goes down, one leg goes up to the carb, and one leg goes up and lays in the right side top of the airbox.

The "Y" can be found at auto parts stores as noted. If you're ordering stuff, it might be cheaper just to get the kit than chase parts unless your auto parts place is very close."

I have this mod on my KLR and no venting problems.
YMMV

[Keith_H]

A common problem with the KLR is the gas tank venting. I believe that once all air is purged from the tank fuel vapor is all that remains. Engine heat usually keeps the fuel warm, but I think sustained high speed riding in a cold wet environment cools the tank enough to cause the liquid fuel to absorb the vapor above it and create a vacuum. If this occurs faster than the vent allows air in to equalize pressure then fuel starvation will occur, especially at lower fuel levels.

Several companies make kits to "T" the vents, including Fred at Arrowhead.
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/parts_frames.html

Or EagleMike recommends "The best fitting to use is a "Y" - but lots of tees out there work fine. Size 1/4".

Location just below the carb, so the single leg of the "Y" goes down, one leg goes up to the carb, and one leg goes up and lays in the right side top of the airbox.

The "Y" can be found at auto parts stores as noted. If you're ordering stuff, it might be cheaper just to get the kit than chase parts unless your auto parts place is very close."

I have this mod on my KLR and no venting problems.
YMMV

I would not have thought of that. Thanks Hal.

[kapod2t]

I would not have thought of that. Thanks Hal.

It hurts my head to think about it.

[Keith_H]

Dan called a bit ago. His truck is fixed and he's on the road. :)

[Ted Shred]

Dan called a bit ago. His truck is fixed and he's on the road. :)

SWEET!! I hope he's wearing his new lucky shirt LOL:D

[Ted Shred]

Dan called a bit ago. His truck is fixed and he's on the road. :)

He's over the pass and into Bakersfield. In real good spirits too:D

[LodiHal]

Come on Dan... Please check in when you get home... :D:D:D

[Dell]

Great pictures guys. I am in my hotel room living vicariously through your posts. I am sorry to hear about Dan. Let's see, last year his bike almost caught on fire, this year the problems with his truck. Can't wait to see what challenge you will face next year, Dan.

[Nathan]

Ok there are more photos on this site http://www.americanwheelmenmc.com/

[RMoore007]

Thanks Nathan. I liked the abandoned mine and house with pool. Where was that?

[mikerd400]

Thanks Nathan. I liked the abandoned mine and house with pool. Where was that?

It is called Warm Springs. It is off West Side Road (a dirt road). That is where I gave my KLR bath. I'll let Dan post those pics.

[Ted Shred]

Thanks Nathan. I liked the abandoned mine and house with pool. Where was that?

My pics are all here -

http://www.sealec.com/ted/album74

[Dan-A]

Home sweet home!

Got home last night about 4PM, dropped the bike, then went to return the trailer. Truck ran smoothly all the way home. Weather was good to about Stockton.

Was too tired to post any pics so I'll get them uploaded maybe tonight. Got some good ones including Dino taking a swack at Ted with his axe, and the U-Boat Commander's dive.

Thanks to all for the help, and all the offers to come and get me, they were greatly appreciated.

I truly understand why this is called "adventure touring". :eek:

[Dan-A]

Great pictures guys. I am in my hotel room living vicariously through your posts. I am sorry to hear about Dan. Let's see, last year his bike almost caught on fire, this year the problems with his truck. Can't wait to see what challenge you will face next year, Dan.


I am almost afraid to go, not.

[Dan-A]

It is called Warm Springs. It is off West Side Road (a dirt road). That is where I gave my KLR bath. I'll let Dan post those pics.


Since you asked....

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16336&stc=1

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16339&stc=1

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16340&stc=1

Gotta get to work, more later...

[kapod2t]

Panamint Valley on the way to Furnace Creek, Thursday

[Dan-A]

Here is a link to the DVD pics, just got them up.

http://gallery.mac.com/dan.albertson/100268

[Dan-A]

Here is a link to the DVD pics, just got them up.

http://gallery.mac.com/dan.albertson/100268

Here are a few:

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16358&stc=1

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16357&stc=1

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16359&stc=1

[dino2000]

Dan - glad you made it home and Ford did u right

Nathan - I hope yer f-ing foot don't fall off

Keith and Steve - You guys are NUCKING FUTS!

Dino pics here http://dino2000.smugmug.com/gallery/4255823#249161627

Chau, dino

[Keith_H]

Nate took some videos. You can see them in the Photo Gallery at AMWC (http://americanwheelmenmc.com) Funny stuff! Rated R for language.. ;)

[brasters]

Just saw .JPG no video...?


Just Bob.

[Keith_H]

Bob,

There are two albums. One is just pics, the other just movies?

The gallery is titled....

2008-01-26 Death Valley Daze Movies

[LodiHal]

Bob, Click on Photos, then TOP RATED is the easiest way to find them... :D

[Nathan]

For all of you that went to DVD

If like a DVD 2008 sticker go see Ted at A&S he has them on his desk.

[LodiHal]

Got one at DVD, thanks for making those Nathan.

Did "Das Boat" get presented yet? :D:D

[Nathan]

Got one at DVD, thanks for making those Nathan.

Did "Das Boat" get presented yet? :D:D

not yet..............

[Ted Shred]

Got one at DVD, thanks for making those Nathan.

Did "Das Boat" get presented yet? :D:D

There is quite a large stack. If you want another one come on by. Stickers are only a buck;):D

[LodiHal]

If you want another one come on by. Stickers are only a buck;):D

Trying to pay for your Starbucks habit Shredder? :D

[Ted Shred]

Trying to pay for your Starbucks habit Shredder? :D

No, I'm trying to pay for the damage I did to Nathan's GS:o:rolleyes:

[mikerd400]

Got one at DVD, thanks for making those Nathan.

Did "Das Boat" get presented yet? :D:D

We're going with German, so it's "DAS BOOT!"

[LodiHal]

We're going with German, so it's "DAS BOOT!"

Iz gudt! :D

[Nathan]

We're going with German, so it's "DAS BOOT!"



Done, they will be at A&S to day some time to today ""DAS BOOT""

[Ted Shred]

Done, they will be at A&S to day some time to today ""DAS BOOT""

Say "HI" to my desk for me:D I'm at home being lazy:p